Talking Tutu (many of) you!

[thirteen28]

Yeah, allen is rated at 80 with 5 sacks and 5 penalties in 900 snapes. humphrey is the highest rated player on the chiefs at 93 with 1 sack and 6 penalties in 1100 snaps. his ceiling looks much higher. I liked allen when we drafted him but then saw that he wasn't starter calibur only to be proven wrong. He is a top 10 guy and I'm happy he proved me wrong but humphrey is the shit and he's on a rookie contract so I don't see the debate.

My offseason program for Brian Allen:

 

[Memento]

This has @Memento written all over it

Lawl, yeah. Unless he joins ROD and says otherwise, I'm calling him by his birth name.

 

[wolfdogg]

My offseason program for Brian Allen:

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I hope allen continues to get better. He;s already surprised me.

 

[thirteen28]

I hope allen continues to get better. He;s already surprised me.

I was very pleased that he fought back as hard as he did after so many of us had written him off. Love the determination, and he did provide a definite upgrade over Blythe. But there is still room for improvement, and for him, that would mean getting stronger.

 

[Angry Ram]

McVay panicked. It is what it is.

Yeah I'm sure a a coach who assembled a playoff caliber roster for 5 years really "panicked" over a 2nd round draft pick.

 

[PhillyRam]

Still dead...

 

[OnceARam]

Yeah I'm sure a a coach who assembled a playoff caliber roster for 5 years really "panicked" over a 2nd round draft pick.

I think he did. Seattle drafted the WR we were targeting. Snead was out with c-vid. And McVay was left alone in the Malibu Barbie beach house with 3 minutes on the clock. It happens.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

I think he did. Seattle drafted the WR we were targeting. Snead was out with c-vid. And McVay was left alone in the Malibu Barbie beach house with 3 minutes on the clock. It happens.

Okay I'll play. How does anyone know that the Rams were targeting Dwayne Eskridge in the 2021 draft?

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[OnceARam]

Okay I'll play. How does anyone know that the Rams were targeting Dwayne Eskridge in the 2021 draft?

~ArkyRamsFan~

It fits my conspiracy theory.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I want him to succeed but I just don't know where he fits especially now that Powell emerged as a very good returner. He's got at least 4 guys ahead of him assuming we resign OBJ and possibly 5 with Jacob Harris.

One guy compared Eric Harris’s size and athletic ability to Megatron.

If he’s a fast learner then there’d be no need for Tutu, Skowronek, or anyone besides the top two of Kupp and Robinson.

It’s a steep learning curve though.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

If he grabs between 15-30 receptions, 2-4 TDs (a couple 40+ yarders) and around 200-400 yards, as at best the 4th but most likely the 5th WR depending on OBJ. I’d be just peachy.

It would be better than 2021 but your describing 4th round pick type numbers.

The bitter taste is low to no production from a a lot that should yield something in year one.

 

[AvengerRam]

For those who can't get past what is apparently the worst draft mistake of all time, I've created a special "Creed over Tutu" avatar for you:

You're welcome.

 

[RamFan503]

For those who can't get past what is apparently the worst draft mistake of all time, I've created a special "Creed over Tutu" avatar for you:

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You're welcome.

I think that is clearly TuTu over Creed. So I guess we put you solidly in the pro TuTu camp along with @Memento

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah I'm sure a a coach who assembled a playoff caliber roster for 5 years really "panicked" over a 2nd round draft pick.

Might be my favorite ridiculous take.
Les says to Sean on the phone, "hey man, I know Pitt is on the clock, and then Seattle, so when we pick just take either Freiermuth or Eskridge. I'd wait for us to be up but I got to take a nap."
Cant you just see it?
Yeah, me neither....

 

[AvengerRam]

I think that is clearly TuTu over Creed.

Depends on whether you are ordering them two dimensionally from top to bottom or alternatively, thinking of the picture in three dimensions.

And with that, this topic has officially gone from the ridiculous to geometric sublimity.

 

[RamFan503]

Depends on whether you are ordering them two dimensionally from top to bottom or alternatively, thinking of the picture in three dimensions.

And with that, this topic has officially gone from the ridiculous to geometric sublimity.

 

[Neil039]

 

[PARAM]

Here's my take.

The vitriol for Tutu is two fold.
1. He had terribly non existent rookie year, and
2. We could have had or as some claim, should have had Creed Humphrey.

The truth is the way the NFL is changing, the value of all world OL is over stated. What teams had "the best OLs" in the NFL?

If you go by rankings (PFF or OLINERANKINGS), Tampa or Dallas depending on which rankings. They both have them 1-2 but reversed. One had SF #3, the other #9. One had N.England #3 the other #9. Both had KC and Philly reversed at #4 & #5. Ironically both had the Rams #7. One had Cleveland #6, the other #8.

One point is, of the top 10 ranked O lines, 3 missed the postseason and 3 others were 1 and done. That leaves 4 and only 1 of them made the SB.

Another point is, if both had the Rams #7, where would they have been with Humphrey? And would they have won the SB more easily? I and many others contend, if OBJ doesn't go down and Higbee plays, the Rams win in a blowout. Still without Humphrey.

Of the top 10 passing offenses in the NFL, 9 made the postseason and two made the SB. Among them only 5 OLs were ranked in the top 10 and one was LAC, who didn't make the postseason.

It's not about OL. It's about the QB and the weapons he has at his disposal. So that's why the Rams passed on Creed Humphrey and went for Tutu. Even if they were wrong on Tutu, they're not wrong in theory.

 

[Loyal]

Here's my take.

The vitriol for Tutu is two fold.
1. He had terribly non existent rookie year, and
2. We could have had or as some claim, should have had Creed Humphrey.

The truth is the way the NFL is changing, the value of all world OL is over stated. What teams had "the best OLs" in the NFL?

If you go by rankings (PFF or OLINERANKINGS), Tampa or Dallas depending on which rankings. They both have them 1-2 but reversed. One had SF #3, the other #9. The other had N.England #3 the other #9. Both had KC and Philly reversed. Ironically both had the Rams #7. One had Cleveland #6, the other #8.

One point is, of the top 10 ranked O lines, 3 missed the postseason and 3 others were 1 and done. That leaves 4 and only 1 of them made the SB.

Another point is, if both had the Rams #7, where would they have been with Humphrey? And would they have won the SB more easily? I and many others contend, if OBJ doesn't go down and Higbee plays, the Rams win in a blowout. Still without Humphrey.

Of the top 10 passing offenses in the NFL, 9 made the postseason and two made the SB. Only 5 OLs were ranked in the top 10 and one was LAC, who didn't make the postseason.

It's not about OL. It's about the QB and the weapons he has at his disposal.

You are way off base.
Ask Cinci about that Super Bowl win they just had....oh, mean they DIDN'T have because of their Oline. Oline and to a lesser extent, the DLine are not glamor positions, but they are THE most important parts of a team. Without protection and Dline hunters, those fancy skill players are getting killed.

 

[PARAM]

You are way off base.
Ask Cinci about that Super Bowl win they just had....oh, mean they DIDN'T have because of their Oline. Oline and to a lesser extent, the DLine are not glamor positions, but they are THE most important parts of a team. Without protection and Dline hunters, those fancy skill players are getting killed.

I am? Sure, point to Cincy losing the SB because of their O line but don't mention despite that O line, they made it to the SB. THAT is my point.

Look at 2020. Kansas City lost Michell Schwartz for all but 6 games and made the SB. Sure they lost, then rebuilt their OL and lost the CCG. One might argue the Chiefs didn't win the SB and make it back the followimg year because of their OL but because of Mahomes, Hill and Kelce. Weapons.

I don't have it wrong, it's just that some ignore reality and all the rule changes that have surgically removed snot-knocking football from the game. It's about entertainment.....QBs, WRs and TEs. Not about the big uglies on the OL.