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[PhillyRam]

I'm assuming they pick #32 next year. That's not much different than #26 this year.

If the draft is much deeper and stronger, they can make a major move up for the QB of the future ala what the Chiefs did in 2017 when they moved from #27 to #10 or the when the Rams moved from #15 to #1 in 2016.

Dude, if it's a better class, it just means those better QBs are going top 10. Still doesn't help us unless we want to trade away a couple of our drafts. So why not take a shot now, especially if you can grab a guy after a trade down in early rd 2 or end of rd 1? And obviously they have yo lime the guy.

Not saying you grab a QB to grab a QB. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Dart, Shough, Milroe, or even McCord are guys who they may like enough in regards to some of their qualities that they will take one early.

 

[DzRams]

The kicker is how long do the Rams view him as a viable option because I'd think they'd want to move off of him prior to the wheels falling off a bit which is likely to happen sooner than later. Not saying he's there but he ain't no spring chicken.

Valid point. The Rams are being smart with their year to year plan. If he has no drop off this year bring him back in 2026. If he does show decline, move on. You can do that for a number of years unless Stafford balks.

 

[ottoman89]

Don't you have to move to make the pic tho? That's really why I'm not sure lol

Up probably, he's not going to fall to 26 likely.

I predict Dart in R1 or McCord in R2.

 

[DzRams]

Dude, if it's a better class, it just means those better QBs are going top 10. Still doesn't help us unless we want to trade away a couple of our drafts. So why not take a shot now, especially if you can grab a guy after a trade down in early rd 2 or end of rd 1? And obviously they have yo lime the guy.

Not saying you grab a QB to grab a QB. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Dart, Shough, Milroe, or even McCord are guys who they may like enough in regards to some of their qualities that they will take one early.

Read my post again. I explicitly stated I'm for making a move into the top 10 of a strong QB draft. I prefer to make sure I get a franchise type QB and pay the high price rather than throwing darts at the end of the 1st round hoping your guy is it.

IOW, I subscribe to the Snead 2016 approach. Pay the price and go up and get a more sure thing. (Obviously there is no guarantee.) Paxton Lynch and Chrsitian Hackenberg were also prospects people were getting excited about. Lynch, ironically and coincidentally selected at #26, amounted to nothing.

Lynch = Dart, Shough, and others who are projected as bottom 1st or 2nd round picks. My vote: no thanks! Give me the Goff's of the world even if it takes 2 drafts.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I'm assuming they pick #32 next year. That's not much different than #26 this year.

If the draft is much deeper and stronger, they can make a major move up for the QB of the future ala what the Chiefs did in 2017 when they moved from #27 to #10 or the when the Rams moved from #15 to #1 in 2016.

Maybe. Maybe not. It takes two to tango. There no guarantee that they'll be able to move up for a QB next year. Didn't we just watch McSnead fail in their attempts to move up for Bowers just last draft?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Up probably, he's not going to fall to 26 likely.

I predict Dart in R1 or McCord in R2.

My bad bro, I'm just messing with you. I meant move like pick up the phone to call pick in, jump in the pool, walk the pick up to the podium, etc

 

[PhillyRam]

Read my post again. I explicitly stated I'm for making a move into the top 10 of a strong QB draft. I prefer to make sure I get a franchise type QB and pay the high price rather than throwing darts at the end of the 1st round hoping your guy is it.

IOW, I subscribe to the Snead 2016 approach. Pay the price and go up and get a more sure thing. (Obviously there is no guarantee.) Paxton Lynch and Chrsitian Hackenberg were also prospects people were getting excited about. Lynch, ironically and coincidentally selected at #26, amounted to nothing.

Lynch = Dart, Shough, and others who are projected as bottom 1st or 2nd round picks. My vote: no thanks! Give me the Goff's of the world even if it takes 2 drafts.

Yeah, because top 10 QBs always hit. So let's trade 4 premium picks for a 30% chance hit rate at best. Hell, even the "can't miss" top 5 guys often bust.

You are not moving from the late 20's into the top 5 or 10 without giving up a shit ton of picks...especially if the league views these QBs highly in a better draft.

 

[PhillyRam]

Read my post again. I explicitly stated I'm for making a move into the top 10 of a strong QB draft. I prefer to make sure I get a franchise type QB and pay the high price rather than throwing darts at the end of the 1st round hoping your guy is it.

IOW, I subscribe to the Snead 2016 approach. Pay the price and go up and get a more sure thing. (Obviously there is no guarantee.) Paxton Lynch and Chrsitian Hackenberg were also prospects people were getting excited about. Lynch, ironically and coincidentally selected at #26, amounted to nothing.

Lynch = Dart, Shough, and others who are projected as bottom 1st or 2nd round picks. My vote: no thanks! Give me the Goff's of the world even if it takes 2 drafts.

BTW, Snead moved up from 15...not the mid 20's. And he was only able to do that because Goff was not considered a slam dunk to be a franchise QB...it was a weak QB class.

 

[XXXIVwin]

BTW, Snead moved up from 15...not the mid 20's.

Agreed. And Snead had to give away a shit-ton to move up. If anything, the price to move up for a franchise QB has probably increased since then. The trade from Rams at 15 to move up to Titans spot at #1 overall:

The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017).
Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), a fourth-round pick (2016) and a sixth-round pick (2016).

My take: Rams are gonna have to suck pretty bad to be within striking distance of a major trade into the top of the draft. And fortunately fir the Rams (but unfortunately fir their "drafting a top QB" prospects), the Rams are gonna be damn good for the next couple years at least!

 

[ottoman89]

My bad bro, I'm just messing with you. I meant move like pick up the phone to call pick in, jump in the pool, walk the pick up to the podium, etc

Oh!! Yeah that's the right move!

 

[Memphis Ram]

Another thing to consider is at times the expected better QB class of next year fails to show up. Players regress, get injured, or just stay in school.

In fact, about this time last year the 2025 QB Draft Class was supposed to be a good one.

What happened?
Texas QB Quinn Ewers and Alabama QB Jalen Milroe didn't really take that expected next step in their development. Neither did Penn State QB Drew Allar who also returned to school. Finally Georgia QB Carson Beck turned into a pumpkin, took the NIL money, and transferred to Miami.

 

[dieterbrock]

Agreed. And Snead had to give away a shit-ton to move up. If anything, the price to move up for a franchise QB has probably increased since then. The trade from Rams at 15 to move up to Titans spot at #1 overall:

The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017).
Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), a fourth-round pick (2016) and a sixth-round pick (2016).

My take: Rams are gonna have to suck pretty bad to be within striking distance of a major trade into the top of the draft. And fortunately fir the Rams (but unfortunately fir their "drafting a top QB" prospects), the Rams are gonna be damn good for the next couple years at least!

Great perspective
2017 is another example. KC traded #27, 3rd round pick and 2018 1st round for the #10 overall pick.
Seems doable for the Rams? Without perspective of course. Keeping in perspective, that QB class (at the time) was worse than this year. In fact KC trading up for Mahomes was not that dissimilar from a team trading up for Dart this year.
*If* the QB class next year is what some expect, the cost to get there will be huge, and unlikely for a team in the 25-32 range to move all the way up

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I think hanging onto Garapolo for the next few years is a wise plan. He’s a better bet right now than any of the second tier QBs in the draft. He’s proven to be able to run this offense.

Plus, we all witnessed McVay erupt when a very good QB couldn’t execute the way McVay wanted him to. Goff couldn’t keep McVay happy and for whatever reason he clearly regressed in his final two seasons as a Ram. It makes me think McVay will need very specific traits to work with.

I don’t know who the Rams could be considering in this draft, if anyone, but whomever it is, they better be very intelligent, process very quickly and either have a cannon or a very quick release. Otherwise McVay won’t trust them and won’t have the patience to work with them. That likely rules out any one read and run types. It likely rules out anyone who can’t read a college defense or scan to his third or fourth options. Maybe if we were to guess we should be focused on the smartest/highest football IQ quarterback in this draft.

Who would that be? Rourke? McCord? They have the fastest release which indicates a strong synapse. Ewers maybe.

Rourke is a sixth year QB. You could argue that with so much experience he may be faster at learning the offense and more comfortable reading defenses.

My guess will be they like Rourke.

 

[Londoner]

So have the Rams given up completely on Bennett? Or was he drafted specifically because he has the qualities @Elmgrovegnome has mentioned above?

 

[dieterbrock]

That likely rules out any one read and run types

Does it though? McVay loved Wolford, gave Perkins a chance, drafted Bennett and we saw the offense they used with Wentz.
On the other hand, he kept Mannion around for 4 years and he couldnt out run a washing machine so there's that

 

[OldSchool]

Does it though? McVay loved Wolford, gave Perkins a chance, drafted Bennett and we saw the offense they used with Wentz.
On the other hand, he kept Mannion around for 4 years and he couldnt out run a washing machine so there's that

I envision a wet floor cone sacking Mannion.

 

[dieterbrock]

So have the Rams given up completely on Bennett? Or was he drafted specifically because he has the qualities @Elmgrovegnome has mentioned above?

I think Bennett's ship has sailed. Might see him on practice squad, but that's about it

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

So have the Rams given up completely on Bennett? Or was he drafted specifically because he has the qualities @Elmgrovegnome has mentioned above?

I think if they saw starter potential in Bennett we would know that by now. We’d have heard some buzz, like we did when people reported that McVay really likes Garappolo. Plus he’s a bit small. I know McVay dreams of having a do it all QB like Josh Allen, but I believe first and foremost he wants a guy that can win in the pocket.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I think Bennett's ship has sunk. Might see him on practice squad, but that's about it

Fixed-It-For-You

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Does it though? McVay loved Wolford, gave Perkins a chance, drafted Bennett and we saw the offense they used with Wentz.
On the other hand, he kept Mannion around for 4 years and he couldnt out run a washing machine so there's that

I think so. Wentz was here for one season? He loved Wolford’s IQ and work ethic but once he saw him in action it didn’t last. I think he just loved Perkins mobility. And, how much of that praise was coach speak to boost morale. If he loved Perkins he should have played more. He likely dreamed of Wolford and Perkins being merged into one QB.

We have all complained about our very young and inexperienced coach’s willingness to ignore the backup QB spot. It bit him in the ass with Rypien. He seems to have learned a hard lesson, and that’s why the Rams saved cap room for Garappolo, who is a QB they know they can win with. I think I’d look to Jimmy G a bit more for the type of ‘out of round 1‘ QB they likely have to settle on. Getting a running QB that can do everything McVay wants is a pipe dream outside of the top few QBs.