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[DzRams]

I sort of lump Goff in with Stafford, being it was one move. Cousins for sure is legit although I was thinking more about recent trades. In any event, it doesnt seem to be a more realistic path than the Jordan Love type

I don't know. With all of the examples various posters have mentioned, it seems we have more cases of vet QB movement than we do of Jordan Love type cases.

 

[dieterbrock]

Maybe not "super recently", but IMO there are tons of examples of established vets moving to new teams and finding significant success. Off the top of my head:
Warner to Cards
Brees to Saints
Cousins to Vikings
Smith to Chiefs
Manning to Denver
and as Old School mentioned, Carr, Jimmy G, and Baker Mayfield all found success with new teams.
Older examples include Montana, Cunningham, and Vick all found success with new teams late in their careers.

McVay is a hell of a recruiter, and it's easier for players to change teams now than it used to be. I can see a scenario where a talented vet, stuck on a perpetually shitty team, would be sorely tempted to answer McVay's pitch to join the Rams.

EDIT: Fuckface McCheat to the Bucs is another one

Hence, "Recent" history. Baker was traded to Carolina, cant say that was a success?
Derek Carr? That's been a disaster.....
Alas, point being that going the Vet route recently hasnt brought much success but a crap ton of failure, although Cousins may be the outlier, but has been a disaster in Atlanta. On the other hand we have seen several teams take QB's with the intention to develop them and have Mahomes, Love, Hurts and Lamar to point to as successful.
I'd surely trust whatever route McVay chooses, but would love to see what he could do with an imperfect prospect over an imperfect vet

 

[dieterbrock]

I don't know. With all of the examples various posters have mentioned, it seems we have more cases of vet QB movement than we do of Jordan Love type cases.

Dude, you need to use blue font with sarcasm

 

[RamFan503]

If Les and his staff have already decided that they are picking a QB with the 26th pick of the draft, on March 19. Then he suddenly discarded the entire drafting and evaluating process that has brought him success in the last few years.

If this was a week before the draft, then maybe it’s a smokescreen. But even then, at that pick he’d have more than one player targetted. He’d have a pool of players that may fall to the Rams.

So, no. It’s just Les answering a question.

I'm sure the Rams do have more than one player targeted. What difference does that make? I have no doubt they also have their pool of players ranked in the order they would take them if they were available at their pick. That would certainly not prevent him from blowing smoke. Quite the opposite.

Teams are looking at players NOW. It's certainly not too early to shape the mindset of other teams if possible. If the Rams have a player they hope falls to them (especially a QB), it would make perfect sense to try to convince other teams they are going a different direction. I would suspect that anything coming out of Les' mouth right now is with intent.

 

[Corbin]

I don’t think anyone on this board has studied the QB class enough to really know as much about the mental acuity of any of the prospects - certainly not as much as the Rams. I’m sure they’ve looked at all kinds of criteria we simply have no ability or resources to look into.

There may very well be a QB or two they see as investment worthy. It’s entirely possible they see an opportunity at 26 that they feel won’t be there next year or that the cost next year would be too much for minimal gain.

I’m not going to be presumptive in saying it would be a mistake to take a QB in this draft or even high in this draft. I’m sure they’ve looked and thought through every scenario any of us could come up with. I’m sure they’ve considered next year’s draft. I’m sure they’ve compared how a player might help them this year vs a QB in ‘27.

And though we all know the Rams organization is not infallible, I’m putting my faith behind them rather than people who have watched some highlight film and read a bunch of draft reviews.

Whatever the Rams do will have been very heavily researched and vetted - even if it ends up being the wrong decision.

I suppose I’d just caution anyone not to get too invested in what they feel should be done. Opinions are great and what a board is made of for the most part. I just hate seeing people actually get argumentative over it to the point that they dismiss other’s opinions.

Mind you. I’m not aware of you doing this @DzRams. I just see it happen too often.

Dude isn’t that kind of the point of a fan website?

To share opinions on your team and potential draft talent than can help your team and the eventual debate that creates activity for this website on the offseason?

 

[RamFan503]

Dude isn’t that kind of the point of a fan website?

To share opinions on your team and potential draft talent than can help your team and the eventual debate that creates activity for this website on the offseason?

Read what I said again. Especially this part:
"Opinions are great and what a board is made of for the most part. I just hate seeing people actually get argumentative over it to the point that they dismiss other’s opinions."

 

[jrry32]

I sort of lump Goff in with Stafford, being it was one move. Cousins for sure is legit although I was thinking more about recent trades. In any event, it doesnt seem to be a more realistic path than the Jordan Love type

That's fair. Either path is viable, but not remotely guaranteed.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Steelers don't have a 2nd round selection. It was traded to Seattle for DK Metcalf.

Ah right, interesting thought experiment, change Steelers to Rams? Would you be down with Milroe for a 2nd for Stewart production? (if we traded back)

 

[dieterbrock]

Ah right, interesting thought experiment, change Steelers to Rams? Would you be down with Milroe for a 2nd for Stewart production? (if we traded back)

Im a huge fan of Milroe, but wonder about this. If you draft him with the intention of him being ultimately your QB, would you want to expose him to injury as a gadget player? I think if you commit to a guy like him as a QB you would have to commit to prepare him as a QB

 

[WestCoastRam]

Im a huge fan of Milroe, but wonder about this. If you draft him with the intention of him being ultimately your QB, would you want to expose him to injury as a gadget player? I think if you commit to a guy like him as a QB you would have to commit to prepare him as a QB

For me, I wouldn't commit to him as a QB without him doing gadget stuff. Without the gadget stuff, there's not enough there from a processing, pocket awareness and accuracy standpoint to take him.

Picking him to be just a QB is just too big a swing outside of day 3 otherwise.

 

[Flatlyner]

Don't think we trade up but the more I think about it the more I think Dart is the pick if he's there at 26.

I could see that, but, I could just as easily see up trade up for one of the TE's (Warren/Loveland) if they fall a bit. I believe that McVay tried to trade up for Bowers and Kincaid in back to back drafts. I'm sure he'd love a weapon like that.

 

[Memphis Ram]

View: https://x.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1902415965343674804

 

[Corbin]

Read what I said again. Especially this part:
"Opinions are great and what a board is made of for the most part. I just hate seeing people actually get argumentative over it to the point that they dismiss other’s opinions."

Definitively see your point in regards to your post in regards to hostilities but isn't the beginning of your post below doing exactly that? Dismissing others opinions of the draft? Some people on this site do very close to what the half ass sports media "gurus" effort that is put in, same with social media 'experts' and have opinions on who is what and where prospects are drafted or how they rank. Regardless of my opinion it's still fun to read others opinions and views here on the site every year. I myself enjoy watching hours of college tape on players, and have no idea why I do it as I don't get paid to do it, it's just enjoyable looking at young men's prospects for their futures and a repetition of what I was taught in HS and college. It's fun to see success, development, and growth in peoples life for me personally. However, this year been way to busy to watch to much game play of the last season.

I don’t think anyone on this board has studied the QB class enough to really know as much about the mental acuity of any of the prospects - certainly not as much as the Rams.

Not to play devils advocate to much man, obviously regardless of what I think, I know our FO personnel has their shit together and their decisions will be the best for our team. Just fun to compare mine and others findings to our FO.

 

[Ramstien]

I think the Rams may use a 6th round pick on a developmental QB.

 

[OldSchool]

I could see that, but, I could just as easily see up trade up for one of the TE's (Warren/Loveland) if they fall a bit. I believe that McVay tried to trade up for Bowers and Kincaid in back to back drafts. I'm sure he'd love a weapon like that.

I don't see a trade up for anything. It's a deep te and rb draft if anything i see a trade back. If we stay put at 26 a CB makes the most sense.

 

[Merlin]

Im a huge fan of Milroe, but wonder about this. If you draft him with the intention of him being ultimately your QB, would you want to expose him to injury as a gadget player? I think if you commit to a guy like him as a QB you would have to commit to prepare him as a QB

Agreed. If we draft a QB I prefer him redshirted like Rodgers was. Park him on the bench and he learns everything from the offense to refining his footwork. There is no reason why we need a draft pick to "produce" as a rookie when it's a QB. Very few rookie QBs are worth playing over a legit vet like Stafford.

The "production" of a rook would be performance on the scout team. So if it's Milroe or Dart they function as the opposing mobile QB we'll be facing, a role both of them are suited for while they learn. Beyond that the rook would have all the time he needs to come up to speed in year one. And next offseason you evaluate and project and decide accordingly what your plan is for 2026.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I think the Rams may use a 6th round pick on a developmental QB.

There just may be a bunch there this year!

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm sure the Rams do have more than one player targeted. What difference does that make? I have no doubt they also have their pool of players ranked in the order they would take them if they were available at their pick. That would certainly not prevent him from blowing smoke. Quite the opposite.

Teams are looking at players NOW. It's certainly not too early to shape the mindset of other teams if possible. If the Rams have a player they hope falls to them (especially a QB), it would make perfect sense to try to convince other teams they are going a different direction. I would suspect that anything coming out of Les' mouth right now is with intent.

They are still assembling their board. They don’t have it set. They don’t know exactly who they are taking. So why randomly be coy about taking a QB? They continue to narrow down their board and visit players to hash out details right up to a few days before the draft.

 

[dieterbrock]

They are still assembling their board. They don’t have it set. They don’t know exactly who they are taking. So why randomly be coy about taking a QB? They continue to narrow down their board and visit players to hash out details right up to a few days before the draft.

Snead was just talking about the need to find a young QB who could sit behind Stafford for a year or two and that it was easier said then done. So why would it be a stretch to think he'd be smokescreening here?
Im not saying he is or isnt, but surely know him well enough to not really believe what he's saying.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Snead was just talking about the need to find a young QB who could sit behind Stafford for a year or two and that it was easier said then done. So why would it be a stretch to think he'd be smokescreening here?
Im not saying he is or isnt, but surely know him well enough to not really believe what he's saying.

Whatever. Believe what you like.