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Snead was just talking about the need to find a young QB who could sit behind Stafford for a year or two and that it was easier said then done. So why would it be a stretch to think he'd be smokescreening here?
Im not saying he is or isnt, but surely know him well enough to not really believe what he's saying.
People crack me up with things like this. They either believe McSnead or not depending on confirmation bias. If it's something they want to believe then they're being truthful if not it's just coach/gm speak.
 

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Have to remember, unlike some teams they don't need a guy to step in and play yr 1 or mayve even in yr 2. So they will be investing in a set of skills and intangibles that they like and feel that they can mold into a good QB. They are not looking for a plug & play prospect.

So they are looking more at a longterm investment as compared to something that will pay off immediately.

So could there be a player that meets that criteria and is worthy of that investment at 26 or say 33 after a trade down? Maybe.
Like they invested in ? Who's that guy we have.....Bennet?
 

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People crack me up with things like this. They either believe McSnead or not depending on confirmation bias. If it's something they want to believe then they're being truthful if not it's just coach/gm speak.
what is your point?
Because this comment is entirely hypocritical
 

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Whatever. Believe what you like.
Snead just said this 10 days ago


Snead left no doubt about the Rams’ desire to find a young quarterback who can learn from Stafford for a year or two, but doing so is “easier said than done.”

"We probably would approach it ASAP. I do think part of the equation that's the hardest part of that equation is, it's one thing to identify QB, it's another to actually be able to acquire him,” Snead said this week. “Let's say we did and that person could learn under Matthew, that's probably only beneficial. Two things about that equation. Even if we identified someone, sometimes it's hard to acquire them and then you get into, OK, wait a minute. We do have Matthew and we want to chase 'special,’ whatever special may be so maybe it's best at that moment to draft another position player and keep going that way. You're always balancing those two things but finding the next QB, that one is easier said than done. I think we've seen that over the course of history, the Green Bay Packers have done a nice job."
 

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Snead was just talking about the need to find a young QB who could sit behind Stafford for a year or two and that it was easier said then done. So why would it be a stretch to think he'd be smokescreening here?
Im not saying he is or isnt, but surely know him well enough to not really believe what he's saying.
I mean he could be or just like most things with the draft, does value meet price.

I'll use Dart as an example. Look, I'm taking Dart in the 6th round, great value. Think the Rams would be dumb if they didn't. Dart in the 4th, yeah, I'm 50/50 on that. Dart at 90... ehhhh, not so sure, who else is on the board... Dart before that, I'm not really interested in it.

But everything we're (or Snead) is looking at is about how the board is stacked, our trade ability and how it all intersects with need.

BTW, I don't know that there's a ton of smoke screening to be had by the way, he's said we may see very few 1st round QBs. It's not like the Rams taking one in the first (god no!) changes what he said.
 

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Snead just said this 10 days ago


Snead left no doubt about the Rams’ desire to find a young quarterback who can learn from Stafford for a year or two, but doing so is “easier said than done.”

"We probably would approach it ASAP. I do think part of the equation that's the hardest part of that equation is, it's one thing to identify QB, it's another to actually be able to acquire him,” Snead said this week. “Let's say we did and that person could learn under Matthew, that's probably only beneficial. Two things about that equation. Even if we identified someone, sometimes it's hard to acquire them and then you get into, OK, wait a minute. We do have Matthew and we want to chase 'special,’ whatever special may be so maybe it's best at that moment to draft another position player and keep going that way. You're always balancing those two things but finding the next QB, that one is easier said than done. I think we've seen that over the course of history, the Green Bay Packers have done a nice job."

I think Snead's pretty clear here when he says he'll address it unless he doesn't.
 

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I mean he could be or just like most things with the draft, does value meet price.

I'll use Dart as an example. Look, I'm taking Dart in the 6th round, great value. Think the Rams would be dumb if they didn't. Dart in the 4th, yeah, I'm 50/50 on that. Dart at 90... ehhhh, not so sure, who else is on the board... Dart before that, I'm not really interested in it.

But everything we're (or Snead) is looking at is about how the board is stacked, our trade ability and how it all intersects with need.

BTW, I don't know that there's a ton of smoke screening to be had by the way, he's said we may see very few 1st round QBs. It's not like the Rams taking one in the first (god no!) changes what he said.
Well like I already said, I don’t think he is or isn’t. He’s sure played enough games over the years. He wasn’t able to move up last year in the draft, and talked about how difficult it is to acquire a player. So I think dismissing the possibility of a smokescreen is ridiculous, I just don’t put anything past him.
 

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I mean he could be or just like most things with the draft, does value meet price.

I'll use Dart as an example. Look, I'm taking Dart in the 6th round, great value. Think the Rams would be dumb if they didn't. Dart in the 4th, yeah, I'm 50/50 on that. Dart at 90... ehhhh, not so sure, who else is on the board... Dart before that, I'm not really interested in it.

But everything we're (or Snead) is looking at is about how the board is stacked, our trade ability and how it all intersects with need.

BTW, I don't know that there's a ton of smoke screening to be had by the way, he's said we may see very few 1st round QBs. It's not like the Rams taking one in the first (god no!) changes what he said.
My thinking too. I don't see how this particular statement qualifies as potential smokescreen when whether it's true or false doesn't change whether the Rams will take a QB in the 1st. Saying there aren't many QBs with 1st round value doesn't preclude one being there at 26 that they do feel is worth it.
 

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My thinking too. I don't see how this particular statement qualifies as potential smokescreen when whether it's true or false doesn't change whether the Rams will take a QB in the 1st. Saying there aren't many QBs with 1st round value doesn't preclude one being there at 26 that they do feel is worth it.
Don’t know how that’s possible but that’s what makes opinions what they are. Snead talking about the difficulty in acquiring a desired player (and alluding to prior draft frustration) doesn’t allow one to see how he might manipulate his particular interest in the draft? Again, I’m not even saying he’s doing that but I wouldn’t dismiss it either.
 

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Snead just said this 10 days ago


Snead left no doubt about the Rams’ desire to find a young quarterback who can learn from Stafford for a year or two, but doing so is “easier said than done.”

"We probably would approach it ASAP. I do think part of the equation that's the hardest part of that equation is, it's one thing to identify QB, it's another to actually be able to acquire him,” Snead said this week. “Let's say we did and that person could learn under Matthew, that's probably only beneficial. Two things about that equation. Even if we identified someone, sometimes it's hard to acquire them and then you get into, OK, wait a minute. We do have Matthew and we want to chase 'special,’ whatever special may be so maybe it's best at that moment to draft another position player and keep going that way. You're always balancing those two things but finding the next QB, that one is easier said than done. I think we've seen that over the course of history, the Green Bay Packers have done a nice job."
I don’t know how in over a month from the draft you can interpret that as being a smokescreen.

It makes little sense for Snead to tell anyone what the Rams want or don’t want. Last year, a week before the draft they feigned a desire to trade up for a left tackle. They went to see Chop while the guy they secretly had interest in was being visited by one of their scouts.

Maybe it’s a double smokescreen. Snead is telling everyone that the Rams want a QB, to learn under Stafford (despite this not being a great draft to find one), so that all of teams that really want a QB trade ahead of the Rams and pick one, and it pushes enough good players down the board do Snead gets a top 15 player at 26!!!
 

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Don’t know how that’s possible but that’s what makes opinions what they are. Snead talking about the difficulty in acquiring a desired player (and alluding to prior draft frustration) doesn’t allow one to see how he might manipulate his particular interest in the draft? Again, I’m not even saying he’s doing that but I wouldn’t dismiss it either.
Maybe some of you are more sophisticated than me with deep deep levels of business savvy but I'm not seeing manipulative possibility with his statement on the dearth of 1st round QBs. I'm not seeing how his statement can make another team less aware of the Ram's plans at 26?
 

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Definitively see your point in regards to your post in regards to hostilities but isn't the beginning of your post below doing exactly that? Dismissing others opinions of the draft? Some people on this site do very close to what the half ass sports media "gurus" effort that is put in, same with social media 'experts' and have opinions on who is what and where prospects are drafted or how they rank. Regardless of my opinion it's still fun to read others opinions and views here on the site every year. I myself enjoy watching hours of college tape on players, and have no idea why I do it as I don't get paid to do it, it's just enjoyable looking at young men's prospects for their futures and a repetition of what I was taught in HS and college. It's fun to see success, development, and growth in peoples life for me personally. However, this year been way to busy to watch to much game play of the last season.



Not to play devils advocate to much man, obviously regardless of what I think, I know our FO personnel has their shit together and their decisions will be the best for our team. Just fun to compare mine and others findings to our FO.
Fair enough. I was (in a very round about way) trying to not have people get too locked into their opinions that they argue as if they know. But I see your point as it seems print leaves a lot to ambiguity.

My main thing is that opinions are just that. We have no idea what the Rams organization is looking at. I just don’t get too invested in what unpaid views of what certain prospects are capable of or how the Rams see the +\- of making certain moves.

It always makes for interesting conversation until IMO it turns to that whole “you don’t know football “ or “you haven’t been paying attention “ dismissals. Clearly I’m not paying attention but have my opinions. Others are paying more attention and have their opinions. So let them have them without ridiculing the person.

This long winded gobblygook brought to you by a poster who doesn’t pay attention.

Cheers.
 

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Maybe some of you are more sophisticated than me with deep deep levels of business savvy but I'm not seeing manipulative possibility with his statement on the dearth of 1st round QBs. I'm not seeing how his statement can make another team less aware of the Ram's plans at 26?
It may very well be nothing. But I can see Snead making statements that he thinks may prevent a team from moving up or picking a player they may already have on their radar. It’s really that simple. Snead with his funky way of talking is also a very shrewd negotiator and planner. He’s always conniving and doing what he can to hide his intentions. It’s not wrong to doubt that but I suspect his words are planned.
 

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Snead was just talking about the need to find a young QB who could sit behind Stafford for a year or two and that it was easier said then done. So why would it be a stretch to think he'd be smokescreening here?
Im not saying he is or isnt, but surely know him well enough to not really believe what he's saying.
Honestly that's part of my reasoning as to my guess they WON'T take a QB this year. Every single damn year in March or April, Snead gives a pretty obvious "head fake" about a position they're targeting in the draft.

So yeah, I think this is a Snead smokescreen.

Every single practice rep in the season is valuable, and I see them wanting to give reps to MS and his seasoned backup (Jimmy G). If this were a rebuild year, then yeah, they'd be happy to give the new guy a ton of practice reps. But not during an "all-in to chase a Lombardi year."

Just my 2 cents. We'll find out soon enough whether they draft a new QB...
 

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I don’t know how in over a month from the draft you can interpret that as being a smokescreen.

It makes little sense for Snead to tell anyone what the Rams want or don’t want. Last year, a week before the draft they feigned a desire to trade up for a left tackle. They went to see Chop while the guy they secretly had interest in was being visited by one of their scouts.

Maybe it’s a double smokescreen. Snead is telling everyone that the Rams want a QB, to learn under Stafford (despite this not being a great draft to find one), so that all of teams that really want a QB trade ahead of the Rams and pick one, and it pushes enough good players down the board do Snead gets a top 15 player at 26!!!
FWIW, I think Allbright reported the attempt to go up for a LT but sounds like it was for Bowers, unless... THAT WAS A SMOKESCREEN