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[El Chapo Jr]

26 seems way too rich for a questionable QB like Dart. But if they feel he’s the guy, then you hope they know. But I’d pass if I were them.

Tyler Shough is a guy I’m building interest in. If he were there at 101 (or better yet in the 4th), I think he could be worth the gamble if they like him. He could potentially step right in next year or 2027 - let him learn 1-2 years.

I'd also consider McCord if he's there. Dude has zip on his throws for sure. No matter what, any QB drafted would most likely sit for 2 years.

 

[RamFan503]

I just don't see it. Forcing a QB pick there would be terrible in this class. Much better players to pick there. We'll see though.

I don’t necessarily see it as forcing a pick but more taking a swing if they think a year or two with a real NFL QB coach and learning from Stafford will get him to a starter level. If he can get to that point, maybe that QB is not only a year ahead with a fifth year option, but he learns our system well enough to build around him.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[DzRams]

And yet... the draft is dynamic, QB inflation is a thing, I would be shocked if Dart went in the first... but not surprised.

Seems to be some smoke that if the Giants don't get Rodgers they'll draft Sanders just to try to save their jobs. Dynamic reason for drafting him that has nothing to do with his projection and value.

From what I've seen, QB inflation can get a QB thats ranked top 20, like Sanders, drafted in the first five picks but it's not going to get a 3rd round talent drafted in the first.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I just don't see the Rams spending a draft pick on a "developmental" QB this year. Rams are all-in with Stafford and they need all their picks to maximize their chances for their SB run.

When MS ultimately retires in a couple years, I'd predict the Rams will find their next franchise QB by paying the big bucks for an established vet. Over the next 2-3 years, Rams are gonna be too good to be in a position to develop a young 1st-round QB prospect.

 

[WestCoastRam]

From what I've seen, QB inflation can get a QB thats ranked top 20, like Sanders, drafted in the first five picks but it's not going to get a 3rd round talent drafted in the first.

I tend to agree... but it only takes one team.

I do think you're right on the mark about Sanders though.

 

[RamFan503]

I just don't see the Rams spending a draft pick on a "developmental" QB this year. Rams are all-in with Stafford and they need all their picks to maximize their chances for their SB run.

When MS ultimately retires in a couple years, I'd predict the Rams will find their next franchise QB by paying the big bucks for an established vet. Over the next 2-3 years, Rams are gonna be too good to be in a position to develop a young 1st-round QB prospect.

Entirely possible and maybe even likely, but I think they may take at least one swing at the bleachers. Both strategies have merit.

 

[OldSchool]

From what I've seen, QB inflation can get a QB thats ranked top 20, like Sanders, drafted in the first five picks but it's not going to get a 3rd round talent drafted in the first.

Your evaluation or a random sports reportes evaluation isn't the teams. Add to that we don't know where teams value these players.

 

[dieterbrock]

I just don't see the Rams spending a draft pick on a "developmental" QB this year. Rams are all-in with Stafford and they need all their picks to maximize their chances for their SB run.

When MS ultimately retires in a couple years, I'd predict the Rams will find their next franchise QB by paying the big bucks for an established vet. Over the next 2-3 years, Rams are gonna be too good to be in a position to develop a young 1st-round QB prospect.

With the exception of Stafford, has there been an example of an established vet changing teams recently that actually paid off? Rodgers? Wilson? Ryan? Wentz? Watson?

 

[OldSchool]

With the exception of Stafford, has there been an example of an established vet changing teams recently that actually paid off? Rodgers? Wilson? Ryan? Wentz? Watson?

Jimmy g, Derek Carr as well. Baker did well though.

 

[dieterbrock]

Jimmy g, Derek Carr as well. Baker did well though.

Baker did well after playing for 3 teams. I just don’t see a path for replacing Stafford with any old vet

 

[Memphis Ram]

hmm... would the Steelers take Milroe in the 2nd round if they got Kordell Stewart's career out of him?

Steelers don't have a 2nd round selection. It was traded to Seattle for DK Metcalf.

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah this class has some intriguing projects. If no QBs or only one go off, that means the Rams are nicely positioned to take the one they prefer. The 5th year option is greatly empowered now for project types who have starter talent. So where they are at 26 is a bit of a wheelhouse in that regard.

And if they take it later that is fine too. These guys are all dice rolls. The loaded rolls just go off at the top.

Without a 2nd round pick, it really puts QB in play. At this point, anyone they draft at #26 will be a "developmental player", why not invest in QB? And being that "eff them picks" has been the mantra for the team, who's to say that if another Stafford is available when Matt is done, that they dont move on from their D-QB like they did with Goff?

 

[Faceplant]

Put me in the latter half. Les is up to something. He’s saying more than he’s saying. Just sayin.

And half the time I don't know wtf he's sayin!!

 

[Merlin]

I just heard Brugler say this could be like the Kenny Pickett draft. So, I don’t think this is Les blowing smoke.

Yes he may be right. I am sure Les is more plugged in on this shit than we are.

But once again the difference right now vs previous years is the insanity of QB salary. So if you have a QB who let's say is a round 3 value, but who has the raw talent to play the position, the late round 1 picks offer security of an additional year which is currently worth more than $50M. And in five years what is that extra year of control going to be worth.

This is projection for me, that teams are going to start using those late round 1 picks for the QBs who represent starter projects. Probably gonna be wrong there. But the logic lines up IMO.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Put me in the latter half. Les is up to something. He’s saying more than he’s saying. Just sayin.

If Les and his staff have already decided that they are picking a QB with the 26th pick of the draft, on March 19. Then he suddenly discarded the entire drafting and evaluating process that has brought him success in the last few years.

If this was a week before the draft, then maybe it’s a smokescreen. But even then, at that pick he’d have more than one player targetted. He’d have a pool of players that may fall to the Rams.

So, no. It’s just Les answering a question.

 

[jrry32]

With the exception of Stafford, has there been an example of an established vet changing teams recently that actually paid off? Rodgers? Wilson? Ryan? Wentz? Watson?

Could make an argument for Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Obviously, Drew Brees in New Orleans. Jared Goff in Detroit. Peyton Manning in Denver. Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee. Those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

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What I love about this board is half the people will say Rams don't think there are QBs worth taking in the 1st and another half will say smoke screen when all he's saying is what he's saying.

I just heard Brugler say this could be like the Kenny Pickett draft. So, I don’t think this is Les blowing smoke

 

[XXXIVwin]

With the exception of Stafford, has there been an example of an established vet changing teams recently that actually paid off? Rodgers? Wilson? Ryan? Wentz? Watson?

Maybe not "super recently", but IMO there are tons of examples of established vets moving to new teams and finding significant success. Off the top of my head:
Warner to Cards
Brees to Saints
Cousins to Vikings
Smith to Chiefs
Manning to Denver
and as Old School mentioned, Carr, Jimmy G, and Baker Mayfield all found success with new teams.
Older examples include Montana, Cunningham, and Vick all found success with new teams late in their careers.

McVay is a hell of a recruiter, and it's easier for players to change teams now than it used to be. I can see a scenario where a talented vet, stuck on a perpetually shitty team, would be sorely tempted to answer McVay's pitch to join the Rams.

EDIT: Fuckface McCheat to the Bucs is another one

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I don’t necessarily see it as forcing a pick but more taking a swing if they think a year or two with a real NFL QB coach and learning from Stafford will get him to a starter level. If he can get to that point, maybe that QB is not only a year ahead with a fifth year option, but he learns our system well enough to build around him.

Stranger things have happened.

I'd rather go QB in the draft next year. That crop is superior to this one. So many better players available at 26.

 

[dieterbrock]

Could make an argument for Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Obviously, Drew Brees in New Orleans. Jared Goff in Detroit. Peyton Manning in Denver. Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee. Those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head.

I sort of lump Goff in with Stafford, being it was one move. Cousins for sure is legit although I was thinking more about recent trades. In any event, it doesnt seem to be a more realistic path than the Jordan Love type