Raheem Morris praises Troy Hill for how much he's matured in the NFL

[FrantikRam]

Could be a coincidence but...

Williams and Ramsey both had worse seasons after Hill left

 

[dang]

I add Troy Hill to the 2022 Draft haul. So that’s 2-3 players that will contribute significantly this year.

 

[OldSchool]

My ideal scenario is Kendricks locking up the slot. That allows Ramsey to stay outside the hashes. Rochell takes the opposite hash. Then you have Hill on certain sub looks depending on opponent, as well as great depth to replace any spot.

I wouldn't want Kendricks outside the hash with his lack of long speed. Rochell is a long gazelle type athlete so they gotta get him ready for that perimeter, I think him being out there is our best case scenario as we'd have two big perimeter corners who are sized for the larger wideouts teams are getting every year. And Kendricks gives you the dangerous cover guy in the slot with those ball skills meaning when QBs throw up ducks at their slot receiver there's gonna be some fear.

Kendricks is in reality our 6th CB after Ramsey, Hill, Rochell, Long and DeCobie. There's a whole lot being made about a guy who may never be active on gameday IMO.

 

[fanotodd]

Solid signing for us and knows the system. We should be fine at CB now with the rook+Hill.

It certainly buys the Rams time. I don’t know where his game is at now, but the Troy Hill who left the Rams was better than both Long and Rochell were last year, and probably better than an incoming rookie.
By year’s end? Who knows.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

Kendricks is in reality our 6th CB after Ramsey, Hill, Rochell, Long and DeCobie. There's a whole lot being made about a guy who may never be active on gameday IMO.

OldSchool,
I think Merlin was meaning to say Durant the 4th round pick. He is MUCH faster and has MUCH better ball skills than Kendrick and is a natural fit in the Slot.
Mebbe Mr. Merlin can clear this up for us!!

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[RamFan503]

Basically, the place (Oregon/Portland area) is flooded with duck crap - by fair-weather fans, for the University of Northern California (AKA, UO). Many of my friends/acquaintances went to Oregon State... it is just a running jab we take at the duck folks...

Hang on - let me ask Steven Jackson or Johnny Hekker who I should follow??!!??!

Meh. WA (said WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!) fans upset because the Ducks have been throttling them for the last couple decades. Unfortunately, you walk through the park around the space needle and it is truly flooded with crap. Sadly, those huge shits are not from "dawgs" - or are they?

I watched the Ducks before they turned the corner. That fan base has always been nuts. And they travel better than Husky fan. Oh... and Eugene is quite a step away from Portland - though both have become shit holes of late.

 

[Merlin]

Kendricks is in reality our 6th CB after Ramsey, Hill, Rochell, Long and DeCobie. There's a whole lot being made about a guy who may never be active on gameday IMO.

Got my wires crossed on Durant/Kendricks there and then realized it but couldn't find my post because I had made so many. Glad someone quoted it.

What is cool is Kendricks is a nice insurance of sorts for the slot. And he's really instinctive in coverage so who knows maybe he factors in but yes I was talking about Durant.

 

[WestCoastRam]

It certainly buys the Rams time. I don’t know where his game is at now, but the Troy Hill who left the Rams was better than both Long and Rochell were last year, and probably better than an incoming rookie.
By year’s end? Who knows.

Yes, "buys time" is a great way to put it. Just as Hill unlocked tremendous versatility in our coverage schemes and maximized Ramsey's use, he maximizes our draft class just as well. He will allow us to bring along Rochelle and the new rookies at a development plan of the Rams choosing rather than thrust them into situations where they're not fully prepared and most likely to pick up and crystalize bad habits.

Can't express how excited I am about the move. Just a dynamic move all the way around!

 

[RamFanWA]

Meh. WA (said WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!) fans upset because the Ducks have been throttling them for the last couple decades. Unfortunately, you walk through the park around the space needle and it is truly flooded with crap. Sadly, those huge shits are not from "dawgs" - or are they?

I watched the Ducks before they turned the corner. That fan base has always been nuts. And they travel better than Husky fan. Oh... and Eugene is quite a step away from Portland - though both have become shit holes of late.

Well... Gotta hands it to Phil knight for investing in the ducks.... The Reeser family hasn't done same for the beavers... But, they ain't Nike.

I didn't grow up out here, so other than the fact I live here now, I really have no irons in the fire

I live out in the country... Avoiding Portland altogether. But Portland and Seattle are both dumpster fires....

 

[den-the-coach]

 

[MadGoat]

Well... Gotta hands it to Phil knight for investing in the ducks.... The Reeser family hasn't done same for the beavers... But, they ain't Nike.

I didn't grow up out here, so other than the fact I live here now, I really have no irons in the fire

I live out in the country... Avoiding Portland altogether. But Portland and Seattle are both dumpster fires....

I believe Knight was one of the top donors (if not the top donor) to OSU at one point.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Now that Nick Foles has been released, I wonder what his price would be as a reserve Rams QB ?

He's got to be better than what we currently have.

Bears release former Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles after 2 years

Foles made eight starts over two seasons with the Bears.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Could be a coincidence but...

Williams and Ramsey both had worse seasons after Hill left

Not a coincidence. Jourdan talked about it a few times. The coaches thought that Williams could handle Troy Hills role in the defense. That’s why they were willing to let Hill leave.

Williams struggled for much of the season because the Rams were trying to move him around. He’s obviously just an outside corner. The Rams put him back there and also moved Ramsey around less for the remainder of the season.

During 2020 Ramsey praised Hill for being able to do what the coaches asked, which allowed Ramsey to be moved around.

Trading for Hill is pretty much an admission that they need someone that can do what he did and they didn’t have that guy on the roster. It’s apparent that they wouldn’t take a wild guess that one of their rookies could pull it off either. Too much is riding on the repeat.

 

[fanotodd]

I would like some help/clarification on this process:
1) the Rams let Hill walk and received a comp pick. What was it and who did the Rams get for that pick?
2) the Rams traded a pick for Hill. Was it the same round as the comp pick? Did they have to give up anything else?
3) If Hill leaves again after this season, the Rams can pick up another comp pick, right?

Hmm. Sounds like we can be right back where we were when Hill left the first time and all it will cost is his salary for this season, which is less than it was last year and the Rams can be looking at another comp pick to replace the pick that was traded for him.

Is this correct?

 

[blackbart]

I would like some help/clarification on this process:
1) the Rams let Hill walk and received a comp pick. What was it and who did the Rams get for that pick?
2) the Rams traded a pick for Hill. Was it the same round as the comp pick? Did they have to give up anything else?
3) If Hill leaves again after this season, the Rams can pick up another comp pick, right?

Hmm. Sounds like we can be right back where we were when Hill left the first time and all it will cost is his salary for this season, which is less than it was last year and the Rams can be looking at another comp pick to replace the pick that was traded for him.

Is this correct?

Looks like Hill’s contract runs through ‘24

 

[Psycho_X]

I would like some help/clarification on this process:
1) the Rams let Hill walk and received a comp pick. What was it and who did the Rams get for that pick?
2) the Rams traded a pick for Hill. Was it the same round as the comp pick? Did they have to give up anything else?
3) If Hill leaves again after this season, the Rams can pick up another comp pick, right?

Hmm. Sounds like we can be right back where we were when Hill left the first time and all it will cost is his salary for this season, which is less than it was last year and the Rams can be looking at another comp pick to replace the pick that was traded for him.

Is this correct?

If Hill stays with us for two more years and finishes his contract it is unlikely he'd get another contract big enough to give us a comp pick again but it's a nice thought.

We traded a 5th round pick in next years draft. As far as the one we already got for him, I believe it was the last one in the 6th round which was

• Round 6, Pick No. 218: Daniel Hardy, EDGE, Montana State

 

[OldSchool]

I would like some help/clarification on this process:
1) the Rams let Hill walk and received a comp pick. What was it and who did the Rams get for that pick?
2) the Rams traded a pick for Hill. Was it the same round as the comp pick? Did they have to give up anything else?
3) If Hill leaves again after this season, the Rams can pick up another comp pick, right?

Hmm. Sounds like we can be right back where we were when Hill left the first time and all it will cost is his salary for this season, which is less than it was last year and the Rams can be looking at another comp pick to replace the pick that was traded for him.

Is this correct?

One of our 6th round picks this year would have to look in more detail
5th round next year for Hill
Yes

 

[BonifayRam]

Once again this move indicates to me just how great of a GM Snead is from my perspective...Snead made another great decision involving his defensive secondary.

Troy Hill has been a Ram since May of 2015 minus the less than one year @ Cleveland & for a UDFA has done some very good work for this team throughout the years.

DC Morris was soon to be looking at a corner room stocked full of inexperienced.....

Derion Kendrick 6th round rookie
Decobie Durant 4th rd rookie
Tyler Hall UDFA never started an NFL game
Grant Haley UDFA cut 4x 's by Giants/Saints has not started in 2 yrs.
Robert Rochell 2021 4th rd pick played in 20 % of Ram's 2021 season defensive snaps
David Long 2019 3rd rd pick is primarily a reserve Nickle Back has been slow to come up to par and started 5 gms in 3 seasons.

Having the 31yr old yr old corner Troy Hill will change the CB dramatically with his 84 NFL games worth of experience. Hard to think of any other 2022 corners who could have done this. The cherry on the top of it all Troy Hill's salary cap hit is very low for the caliber of player we get in return. I would not downplay the value & the effect of this Snead trade.

NFL eat your heart out!

 

[AZRams]

Heard that driving around on Saturday.

Like it. Lots...

 

[den-the-coach]

Once again this move indicates to me just how great of a GM Snead is from my perspective...Snead made


David Long 2019 3rd rd pick is primarily a reserve Nickle Back has been slow to come up to par and started 5 gms in 3 seasons.

31yr old corner Troy Hill sure did change that room a lot with his 84 NFL games worth of experience plus Troy came at a very nice Econo price.

FWIW I also want to communicate that I thought David Long did improve after his benching as he came back against the Cardinals when many were hit by COVID and after that game did seem to improve and gain confidence. Long had a big Interception against Arizona for a TD in the playoff game and again I felt did improve his game.

Overall I like Durant quite a bit, I believe he'll be on the field more often then not plus Rochell & now Troy Hill, it will make DB Coach Jonathan Cooley sleep well at night, even though Chris Shula will probably get most of the credit.