Could be firsts sorta sounds like a 1st round prospect to me especially given the premium placed at the position.
A chance to be a 1st round picks sounds to me like a 2nd round pick that a team may take earlier than that because they like the player or place a premium on the player. If it was a 1st round pick they'd say first round pick or even the pick range.
I can get with that if that's what you saw. But I don't recall seeing much of draftnik media saying "a chance." While many do seem to copy each other that seems very odd to me. I just recall them being considered 1st round prospects and in the first round of just about every mock draft.
I dunno.
, and when he did play in a mop up role, he didn't impress. I understand that other back ups were playing when he was also on the field, but I just don't see the guy being much as a pro.
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You realize, most draft experts are saying there might be 12 1st rd caliber players in this draft. Most years it's only about 18. Picking 26, there will be a pool of about 20 guys that won't have a significant talent diff between them. So taking a 2nd rd QB is no different than taking a 2nd rd CB or TE etc... because that's the likley other options.
Nix did the same thing in college.
OK? Has nothing to do with what we were talking about but yes I get all of that and I'm pretty sure I've said before this "12 1st round grades" or whatever is absolute nonsense just for clicks.
Not sure how many more clicks one can get if so many are saying the same thing.
He didn’t play with Nix or Gabriel but it is crazy that he was only a year behind Herbert in school who is going in to his 6th year as a proI dunno.
I'm certainly no QB draft choice expert, but I don't understand the infatuation with Shough. He couldn't beat out Dillon Gabriel , Bo Nix or Herbert at Oregon.
I watch virtually every Ducks game, being a big time homer
Exactly. What was Puka if not a top 5-10 player in the draft. But where’d we pick him? These comments about number of first round grades and all is for show & media. Reality is we (fans & teams) have no idea who will be great, good, average, busts. Some have better ideas/knowledge than others. But it’s art - not engineering. That’s what makes professional sports so fun - the unknown. Yet some try to make it seem to black/white with concrete, definitive analysis.
Two different discussions. There is a difference between final outcomes and how players are graded initially as the latter affects where they might be drafted.
“Final outcome”? Puka was a starter and stud game 1. Greg Robinson sucked day 1. That shows draft grades and where guys get drafted don’t mean much post draft day. You can go on & on (purdy, Lance, etc etc). Fact is, we and GMs get things wrong - many times VERY wrong.
Again that's understood. But, the discussion being had isn't in regard to post-draft day. It's pre draft day. And pre-draft grades play a significant role in where these players are selected.
So teams picking are doing their utmost to trade back to the 2nd round? I mean there's only 12 players worth taking in the 1st round right?
