(Poll) Goff or Wentz. Who do YOU want?

[T-REX]

2014: DROY – Aaron Donald
2015: OROY – Todd Gurley

2016: OROY – Carson Wentz, OPOY – Todd Gurley, DPOY – Aaron Donald = Playoffs

In Snisher I Trust!

 

[Psycho_X]

I seriously can't decide. I'm legit 50/50 on both of them and it is kinda driving me mad. I hear one argument for one guy and I'm like "yeah he sounds like he is the guy" and then I hear the argument for the next guy and I'm all like "holy crap yes pick that guy!". Bleh.

I think I fall into the 60/40 category for Wentz more often than Goff so I voted for him but man I just don't know. I think I lean to Wentz more simply because of the offense he ran. I'm so sick of these spread offense or non-NFL like college offenses QBs that have huge numbers in college and get to the NFL and might have the skills but no brains or instincts to handle the rush while trying to remember where the hell his receivers are going. Not saying Goff is at all like that and after watching some film I do like his instincts and release in the face of pressure. So that's why I'm not overwhelmingly in the Wentz corner.

 

[MTRamsFan]

Wentz. I've seen him play quite a bit and I like the way he handles himself. He's very poised and doesn't get rattled much. IMO, his style of play suits the Rams offense more than Goff. Goff comes from a spread offense and most of his offense is centered around a shotgun/spread style offense.

 

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if Fisher misses on this pick, his future will be playing golf
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[T-REX]

I seriously can't decide. I'm legit 50/50 on both of them and it is kinda driving me mad. I hear one argument for one guy and I'm like "yeah he sounds like he is the guy" and then I hear the argument for the next guy and I'm all like "holy crap yes pick that guy!". Bleh.

Yeah, I'm still like...

 

[Mojo Ram]

Thankfully there are no analytics for competitiveness, but this is another intangible that has me leaning towards Wentz.

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[NJRamsFan]

I think ceiling Goff is a Matt Ryan type QB and Wentz is a Brady. Do with that was you wish.

Wentz reminds you of Brady?!?!?!

 

[Selassie I]

My eyeball test tells me to go with Wentz.

Goff looks fragile.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Wentz reminds you of Brady?!?!?!

Yeah i don't get that either. If we're comparing Wentz to a HOF'er i'd have to throw out a name like Favre.

 

[NJRamsFan]

My eyeball test tells me to go with Wentz.

Goff looks fragile.

Thin doesnt necessarily mean fragile (Matt Ryan) Goff took a beating behind a horrible O line his entire time at cal and never missed time to injury.

Wentz did miss time due to injury.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Yeah i don't get that either. If we're comparing Wentz to a HOF'er i'd have to throw out a name like Favre.

Yeah the Favre comparison I can live with

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Wentz reminds you of Brady?!?!?!

Not Brady the prospect, Brady the cerebral QB that is the general on the field. I believe Wentz has that potential yes. Wentz has more athleticism than Brady. I want to compare to Luck minus the accolades. I think the "minus the accolades" part is why I think of Brady. The risk is there, his ceiling is that of Manning and Brady, but being from a small school, his floor is lower than Goff's as well.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Not Brady the prospect, Brady the cerebral QB that is the general on the field. I believe Wentz has that potential yes. Wentz has more athleticism than Brady. I want to compare to Luck minus the accolades. I think the "minus the accolades" part is why I think of Brady. The risk is there, his ceiling is that of Manning and Brady, but being from a small school, his floor is lower than Goff's as well.

I dont get this at all. You dont feel comfortable comparing him to Andrew Luck because he lacks accolades but youll compare him to the 11 time pro bowler, 4 time superbowl champ, 3 times superbowl mvp, 2 time league mvp, Tom Brady? Whom he plays NOTHING like?

 

[Selassie I]

Thin doesnt necessarily mean fragile (Matt Ryan) Goff took a beating behind a horrible O line his entire time at cal and never missed time to injury.

Wentz did miss time due to injury.

Goff may not have missed any time... but he did have a separated shoulder while at Cal. Saw that on the Gruden - Goff QB Camp.

I've had my fill of fragility at the QB position.

Wentz broke his wrist and came back 8 weeks later to play in the championship game.


Just my eyeball test. I feel like Wentz will be more physically able to handle the NFL.

 

[RamFan503]

Goff throws the prettier ball,

That's funny because I was just thinking about how wobbly a throw Goff makes. Wentz is actually known for his pretty passes with the tight spirals.

So this is how we spend the next two weeks, huh?

Seems so - eh? It is a big deal though.

Just my eyeball test. I feel like Wentz will be more physically able to handle the NFL.

That's one of my thoughts as well on this. Goff might be ready to hit the field passing - though I doubt that as well. Wentz will make more things happen as a rookie and physically looks like he can grow into a Rothlesburger type minus the whole rapist thing.

 

[NJRamsFan]

That's funny because I was just thinking about how wobbly a throw Goff makes. Wentz is actually known for his pretty passes with the tight spirals.


Seems so - eh? It is a big deal though.


That's one of my thoughts as well on this. Goff might be ready to hit the field passing - though I doubt that as well. Wentz will make more things happen as a rookie and physically looks like he can grow into a Rothlesburger type minus the whole rapist thing.

I dont think goff being skinny automatically means he isnt nfl ready physically I mean just look at these hulking figures

accuracy footwork anticipation touch will always be more important qb attributes to me than being a physical specimen

 

[LesBaker]

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You should take something for that...... hehehe

 

[LesBaker]

Still hate this team. Still soured on football....

But if you guys go Goff, you'd better have a change in offensive philosophy or a QB with Goff's skill set is going to be utterly wasted. Just wasted.

You have to design your system to maximize Goff's talents. That means opening things up a bit more. He's an anticipation thrower with great placement. Gets the ball out super quick. Throws guys open. Has great touch. I think you'd have to speed up the style of O. You'd definitely need some better WR talent. And to get him a real passing threat.

Wentz seems to fit Fisher ball. A Big Ben type. An early Big Ben type when the Steelers were still about running and D. He didn't evolve into the prolific passer until later when they changed the system.

Athos I hope we see you around more often. We've had moments whee we didn't agree but I always found you to be an interesting read.

As I have said before it's OK to hate Kroenke and love the Rams. A lot of us long time fans felt much the same way about Georgia.

 

[RamFan503]

As I have said before it's OK to hate Kroenke and love the Rams. A lot of us long time fans felt much the same way about Georgia.

Fine to hate him - just leave it off this board. We are seriously done with the bashing of the owner of our team. We get it but take it somewhere else. We don't allow it toward ANYONE currently in the organization.

 

[Ramlock]

Goff comes from a spread offense and most of his offense is centered around a shotgun/spread style offense.

Sonny Dykes came out of the Hal Mumme (Tim Couch) Mike Leach Air Raid system....throwing it all over the lot.

I want no part of an Air Raid Spread QB that will have however many years of remedial offensive football to learn.

I don't care how many yards Goff threw for in college, he'll bring some of the same issues that the Sam B. critics hated.

Wentz can come in and take snaps under center.
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