Wait a minute. Haven't you said the same thing about other QBs in draft discussions?
No. I have not. I don't tell people not to draft QBs because they did not play in a pro style offense. I don't evaluate a QB based on the offense he plays in.
At least giving them points because they played in a pro set? Even as recently as Jameis over Marriota?
Sure. I'll give a guy "points" if he is outstanding in a pro style offense. Especially if he has more responsibilities and makes more challenging throws. But I won't build my evaluation around it. And it won't compensate for being a lesser QB.
But frankly, getting away from the guy's awful point, his post isn't even remotely factually accurate:
This was posted here by a Cal fan or so he said he was. I have no reason to not believe he is/was. Just was some very eye opening comments by a fan who has by his account anyway seen plenty of Cal football. I bolded the parts that caught my attention.
"I grew up a fan of the California Golden Bears. I went to my first game at Memorial Stadium in 1968. Most of my family has graduated from Cal. What I can tell you is that Rams will probably select Goff # 1 overall in the 2016 NFL Draft. They should not, but, they will because by all of the measurable information that organizations collect these days. For them Goff will be the logical choice.
My personal feeling is that Goff is going to have a hard time in the NFL. Since college and professional football has been divided over the last decade or so by the use of the spread option and air raid concepts now popular in the college game it has become more difficult for college signal callers to make the transition from college to professional football. The two most successful of these quarterbacks have been Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick.
Newton has been able to make the transition in part because the Carolina organization has been smart to allow Newton to use his own personal skill set while he has grown into the position of being an NFL quarterback (ie the the spread option concepts he used in college) while also allowing him to use his physical size and strength as a running threat, especially in the red zone.
Kaepernick was given the same advantage when he came out of college but the more the 49ers tried to force him into being a pro-style quarterback the more problems he had.
The history of Cal football over the last fifty years has been for the most part a history of bad to mediocre football. There has been a few exceptions but bad to mediocre has been the overall trend. However, even when Cal has been bad they have always been able to produce moments. Usually sneaking up on a superior team such as Stanford (Cal's #1 rival), UCLA, or Arizona. These upsets took place in years where Cal's record for the season could be anywhere from 2-9 to 4-7. In 1980 I personally saw the Golden Bears led by "The Great Jay Torchio" (note the sarcasm) beat Stanford and John Elway in the final game of the season. Cal finished the season with a record of 3-8 costing Roger Theder his job as head coach at Cal.
The reason why I mention all of this is because Jared Goff in his Cal career never produced "A Moment". In three seasons at Cal Jared Goff has defeated 3 division 1 football programs. All in his final season. He has beaten San Diego State, Air Force, and Washington State. That's it.
Cal started the 2015 campaign with a 5-0 record beating Grambing State, San Diego State, Texas, Washington, and Washington State. With a 5-0 start ABC decided to make the Cal-Utah game in week six a featured game of the week. Goff threw 5 interceptions and 0 Touchdowns under the bright lights of a national audience.
People are very impressed with Jared Goff's statistics. 43 Touchdown passes and over 4,000 yards passing in his final season at Cal. Before anyone gets excited about this they should know that Colby Cameron had similar statistics at Louisiana Tech during his senior season (Sonny Dykes last year at LA Tech) throwing for 4147 yards 31 TDs and 5 interceptions. Compared to Goff's 43 TD's with 13 interceptions. Cameron barely got a sniff in the NFL.
Is Goff going to be great? I do not know. Is he going to be a bust? I still do not know. What I do know is that he has never had to learn a play book having run the same offense in high school as he did in college.
My overall feeling is that if a great QB comes out of this draft it is going to be someone that we are presently not talking about."
Let's a few things straight since that Cal fan doesn't seem to know the facts.
1. It's actually gotten easier in recent years for QBs to make the transition. Look at the numbers rookie QBs are putting up and the success rates for first round passers have not declined.
2. Colin Kaepernick is not the second best spread QB. We've had Marcus Mariota, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton, etc. come out of spread offenses in the past 5 years. There were also a number of spread QBs before that including Joe Flacco and Drew Brees who were successful.
3. I am a bit confused as to how Cal has only defeated 3 Division 1 programs in Goff's 3 years as a starter when the nitwit just named 5 Division 1 programs that Cal defeated during their 5-0 run this year. But let's assume he meant FBS instead of Division 1, he still named four FBS programs (Texas, Washington State, Washington, and San Diego State). In addition to those 4 programs, Cal also defeated Oregon State, Arizona State, and Air Force. That's 7 FBS programs in 2015 alone. In 2014, they defeated 4 more FBS programs in Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado, and Northwestern. So let's just say he's completely wrong.
4. No, actually, Goff threw 2 TDs to 5 Ints in that game against Utah.
Just to clarify, I'm not speaking to Bisonbacker. I'm pointing out that this guy he's quoting says nothing about what type of player Goff is and manages to get his facts completely wrong. Not the type of analysis that anyone should pay attention to.
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