Matthew Stafford Contract Status

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Merlin

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That's stupid business then. Sorry but trading Stafford is investing in kick starting a roster overhaul to jives better with our young roster. Why would they refuse the best offer for the franchise overall for just one individual? In the NFL, paying a premium for a top notch QB is a must. If teams want him that bad, offer a great trade or fuck off. Rams need to play hardball with interested teams.

He's not retiring, he's literally said that. This I'm taking my ball home crowd is delusional as hell. The man wants to play ball. Guess we aren't believing in what players actually said now? :laugh1:
Settle down tiger. Let's keep this an adult conversation.

Whatever Stafford has said nothing is stopping him from shitting all over trade business. So it is in fact good business, not stupid business, to completely avoid him shitting on this process by doing things the way the Rams are currently doing things.

Now if you don't like it that's cool and that's your prerogative as a fan. But this stuff is done how it's done now. And you don't have to like it.
 

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It only moves the needle for me because you don't see it much. I can't think of many examples where teams felt the need to do this. Brandon Aiyuk, but he was very close to being traded. I hear you though. They clearly want to get an extension done.
Yes, absolutely. This isn't signing Aaron Donald to his 2nd or 3rd contract here where you're gonna sign him almost no matter what. This is an aging vet who's got 1-2 years of strong production ahead of him most likely.

The difference here is, the Rams have a number/numbers that they won't budge from for their team build going forward. If Stafford wants more they'll move on. But it's not like it's a big chance. A chance, just not a big chance.
 

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I don't see any contigency plan that would move us forward and not backward.

I heard kirk cousins name floated around as well.
Yeah but not signing Stafford to a contract number we aren't willing to pay gives us more future cap flexibility plus the draft compensation. That allows us to improve the roster overall at other positions and being able to address the QB with a competent starter so we don't just sink. By the way, no one here knows the Rams contingency plan nor ever here about it til its done. Good teams are always thinking of the future. It's the reason so many contracts have outs in certain years.
 

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Lets go with your thought here. How many teams can and will pay him 3 years $210 million? And now off that list how many of those are going to give him a better chance to win games let alone a Lombardi? He may have say in it but he himself is limiting his options if money is what's most important to him he'll go where we trade him. Again this all comes down to that pay request and if it isn't this idiotic $70 million a year he'll stay a Ram.
No idea. Only team I can think of here is Pittsburgh, who fits almost everything I'd look for if I was Stafford. But I don't profess to know what they're willing to pay. Only that they have gone through shit QBs and found out the hard way that you can piss away tons of money with those guys and not have a snowball's chance in hell of contending.

Way the Rams are playing this, just as I read it from the outside here, seems pretty damn smart to me. Stan probably said "get fucked I'm not paying more" or Stafford's team wanted more than Stan was willing to do. So now Stafford can find out his market value, and teams have been notified the price will be high. I think it's a good play for the situation.
 

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I heard kirk cousins name floated around as well.
Not Listening Friends Tv GIF
 

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Settle down tiger. Let's keep this an adult conversation.

Whatever Stafford has said nothing is stopping him from shitting all over trade business. So it is in fact good business, not stupid business, to completely avoid him shitting on this process by doing things the way the Rams are currently doing things.

Now if you don't like it that's cool and that's your prerogative as a fan. But this stuff is done how it's done now. And you don't have to like it.
Hahaha no worries, I'm not worked up about it at all. I just love shooting the shit about everything Rams related and simply give opinions like everyone else. This kumbaya approach though isn't real. Real life business is cutthroat and there are multiple players that are on record saying that. When you are trading the most valuable and impactful position in football, you get the best you can. The Rams understood that when they traded for Stafford. We need to shoot for that type of haul in return and do our best to get the best haul. If this is the end and Stafford is somehow traded somewhere that isn't choice number 1, is his career really a failure? The guy will be in the HOF and has a Superbowl ring. As others have said, if legacy is his biggest concern, his contract with the Rams would have been handled by now. Its obvious he wants the bag.
 

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The Rams care. They are not going to move a player of his caliber somewhere he isn't good with. Also doing that opens up him saying fuck you I'm retiring. And they can call his bluff, but that eats into his value in trade. So bottom line is when this situation happens you put it out there that you expect a top pick, which the Rams reportedly have. Then you let the QB find a spot he likes where the pay is there too. Then you work the deal.

Now whatever team sells Stafford on his future with them will have already known the rough cost of the trade as well, due to the cost having already been discussed. Also they can concurrently discuss these details with the team as they proceed with Stafford. Comms are all connected on this stuff.
The Rams will trade him to whoever offers the best deal within reason. Staffords wishes are completely irrelevant
There is no bluff, that is just ridiculous poster dribble.
 

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That's stupid business then. Sorry but trading Stafford is investing in kick starting a roster overhaul to jives better with our young roster. Why would they refuse the best offer for the franchise overall for just one individual? In the NFL, paying a premium for a top notch QB is a must. If teams want him that bad, offer a great trade or fuck off. Rams need to play hardball with interested teams.
They can play hardball on terms of once Stafford accepts a couple of teams or even one team and just say they won't trade him for less than say a #1 or a high #2 and another pick.

If a team refuses then the Rams either work out their own contract with Stafford or they move on and place him on a "did not report list" or whatever that is if he holds out. I doubt it gets to that, but they can have some leverage over trade compensation as an interested team will want to get it done now as well.
 

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The Rams will trade him to whoever offers the best deal within reason. Staffords wishes are completely irrelevant
There is no bluff, that is just ridiculous poster dribble.
And the team that offers the best deal will be the team who perceives Stafford to have the most value. Which will inevitably be a team that has sat down with him, looked him in the eye, have agreed on contract value, and both sides are eager to work together to go win games.
 

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He 100% will. He’s 37 and already has $400M, a ring, and is in the top 10 in almost every single passing category.

You think he’s going to willingly play out the last 1-2 years for a crappy team for an extra $10-12M??? Do you guys hear yourselves??
We just saw the Washington Commodes go from the second worst team to playing for right to go to the Super Bowl in the NFC championship game, in one year.

Stafford to the Giants could get the Giants into the playoffs. They have a good defense and weapons at receiver, TE, and a good RB. All they need is a few Olinemen and a QB.

If I’m Daboll I’d say take the number 3 and give me Stafford and Jonah Jackson and I’ll throw in next years second.
 

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We were the Giants without McVay. So yes the difference in the Giants vs the Rams is probably 80% QB function.

That said Stafford won't consider them. He will want a team with a stable winning situation so he can chase another ring.
The Giants are only a few pieces away. Look at their depth chart. They could make the playoffs with a good QB
 

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We just saw the Washington Commodes go from the second worst team to playing for right to go to the Super Bowl in the NFC championship game, in one year.

Stafford to the Giants could get the Giants into the playoffs. They have a good defense and weapons at receiver, TE, and a good RB. All they need is a few Olinemen and a QB.

If I’m Daboll I’d say take the number 3 and give me Stafford and Jonah Jackson and I’ll throw in next years second.
The Giants are not trading the number 3 pick. Adam Schefter has reported there is zero chance that happens.
 

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The Rams will trade him to whoever offers the best deal within reason. Staffords wishes are completely irrelevant
There is no bluff, that is just ridiculous poster dribble.
LOL this is absolutely fan fiction. You can say it as much as you want, it doesn’t make it true. I cannot believe people believe this. It’s insane.
 

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The Giants are not trading the number 3 pick. Adam Schefter has reported there is zero chance that happens.
Read my post again.

Plus, what do the Giants gain by saying they would trade that pick? If Snead knows that they’d be willing to give that up then he’d start asking for more.

The Giants should be willing to trade that pick for Stafford. Shoen and Daboll need to save their jobs and no player they pick at three would do for that team what Stafford would.