Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Flatlyner]

Has anyone done a deep dive on Sanders and Ward? I have yet to have the time to do it, but, does anyone think that McVay might be intrigued enough to go all in on one? Both are fairly mobile (Ward much more so) and appear to have pretty strong arms. Sanders appears to be the more accurate and he did a good amount of damage with shit O-Lines. What strikes me as odd is, Sanders is the son of one of the greatest athletes to ever play in the NFL, yet Shadeur isn't considered mobile QB? I'd be VERY interested to see what he runs in his 40. I'd assume he has sneaky speed.

 

[snackdaddy]

Mobility is nice. But its not everything. The top two elite running quarterbacks Allen and Jackson have not even been to the Superbowl much less won one. Hurts is a running quarterback but lets be real. Without Barkley he likely doesn't make it to the Superbowl. A number of quarterbacks today would win with that offensive line. And defensive line.

 

[dieterbrock]

Has anyone done a deep dive on Sanders and Ward? I have yet to have the time to do it, but, does anyone think that McVay might be intrigued enough to go all in on one? Both are fairly mobile (Ward much more so) and appear to have pretty strong arms. Sanders appears to be the more accurate and he did a good amount of damage with shit O-Lines. What strikes me as odd is, Sanders is the son of one of the greatest athletes to ever play in the NFL, yet Shadeur isn't considered mobile QB? I'd be VERY interested to see what he runs in his 40. I'd assume he has sneaky speed.

I think Ward is as good as any qb to come out lately. Has a wicked fast release. Not impressed with Sanders

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I think Ward is as good as any qb to come out lately. Has a wicked fast release. Not impressed with Sanders

I like Cam Ward way better than Sanders. Anytime Sanders played against decent competition, he seemed to crumble more often than not.

 

[fanotodd]

Colin Cowherd is "proposing" that Rams "could" trade MS to the NYG for the 3rd overall pick, then move down to stockpile picks to get a franchise QB in 2026. Colin says Rams then would want a "bridge" QB in 2025.... possibly Aaron Rodgers.

I usually like Colin's takes, but I think he's full of shit on this one. I say MS is a lock to stay, both sides really want to make it work.

I’m gonna agree with you here. CC can be quite good with unique perspectives at times, but he’s definitely just trying to sell advertising time with this BS.

At this point in their careers, Stafford is unquestionably better than rogers. The Rams can’t be that stupid.

As for the g-men’s 1rst rounder, just who is in this QB class that the Rams would want to grab that badly? Nah, the time to make a deal like that was last year when there were better options at QB.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I’m gonna agree with you here. CC can be quite good with unique perspectives at times, but he’s definitely just trying to sell advertising time with this BS.

At this point in their careers, Stafford is unquestionably better than rogers. The Rams can’t be that stupid.

As for the g-men’s 1rst rounder, just who is in this QB class that the Rams would want to grab that badly? Nah, the time to make a deal like that was last year when there were better options at QB.

I think assuming the Rams use that number three pick, if that's what they got, on a QB would be a mistake. It would give the Rams the option to trade back and pick up way more draft capital to build an even stronger roster. If they went that route, the rounds are most likely take on a veteran option like a Jimmy G. Still think and hope the Rams resign Stafford to a reasonable deal that works out for both sides.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I’m gonna agree with you here. CC can be quite good with unique perspectives at times, but he’s definitely just trying to sell advertising time with this BS.

At this point in their careers, Stafford is unquestionably better than rogers. The Rams can’t be that stupid.

As for the g-men’s 1rst rounder, just who is in this QB class that the Rams would want to grab that badly? Nah, the time to make a deal like that was last year when there were better options at QB.

Colin says they’d try to trade back and stockpile picks for the 2026 draft to get ammunition to trade up to draft a QB next year.

 

[Flatlyner]

Mobility is nice. But its not everything. The top two elite running quarterbacks Allen and Jackson have not even been to the Superbowl much less won one. Hurts is a running quarterback but lets be real. Without Barkley he likely doesn't make it to the Superbowl. A number of quarterbacks today would win with that offensive line. And defensive line.

The final 4 teams has arguably 4 of the top 5 mobile QB's. Sure, Mahomes doesn't run much, until the playoffs were is feet are a pretty dangerous weapon. Agree, Hurts isn't even sniffing the SB without those lines supporting him.

I like Cam Ward way better than Sanders. Anytime Sanders played against decent competition, he seemed to crumble more often than not.

Could that potentially be a result of having a much worse team, top to bottom? Outside of Hunter, its seems like they are JAGs.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I’m gonna agree with you here. CC can be quite good with unique perspectives at times, but he’s definitely just trying to sell advertising time with this BS.

At this point in their careers, Stafford is unquestionably better than rogers. The Rams can’t be that stupid.

As for the g-men’s 1rst rounder, just who is in this QB class that the Rams would want to grab that badly? Nah, the time to make a deal like that was last year when there were better options at QB.

Yeah, and quite frankly the Giants would never trade away the 3rd overall pick for a one or two year rental of a 37-year-old QB.

Rams could get solid return for MS, but nowhere near the #3 pick.

 

[Flatlyner]

Yeah, and quite frankly the Giants would never trade away the 3rd overall pick for a one or two year rental of a 37-year-old QB.

Rams could get solid return for MS, but nowhere near the #3 pick.

Agree. Thats why a 2nd this season and next years 1st feels more realistic. Giants assume they will have a much higher pick next year with a competent QB.

 

[Turducken]

Colin says they’d try to trade back and stockpile picks for the 2026 draft to get ammunition to trade up to draft a QB next year.

It's really unlikely, but conceivable.

The first domino is stafford to Giants in a package sending the 3rd pick to LA. I don't think they pay that but maybe they think they are just a QB away.

Then assume that Rodgers is cut and basically free for one season at veteran minimum because he comes with a boatload of offset-able guaranteed money (like Russ going to Pittsburg). Even with his baggage, Rodgers might have his pick of teams if he's playing for $1.3m next season. Rams make sense to him because we're contenders, McVay could maximize his remaining talent and he has a house in Malibu.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Agree. Thats why a 2nd this season and next years 1st feels more realistic. Giants assume they will have a much higher pick next year with a competent QB.

Yeah, although IMHO even that might be more than we could expect in trade compensation for MS. For comparison's sake, Jets gave up "approximately" (with a few other swaps) two 2nd round picks for Aaron Rodgers back in 2023. And that was shortly after AR had won two league MVP's.

Bottom line-- I think MS has a ton of value to the Rams, given his knowledge of the McVay offense. But I think his trade value is comparatively less, given his age. So I think the Rams keep him in part for that reason-- he's more valuable to keep than as a trading chip.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

The final 4 teams has arguably 4 of the top 5 mobile QB's. Sure, Mahomes doesn't run much, until the playoffs were is feet are a pretty dangerous weapon. Agree, Hurts isn't even sniffing the SB without those lines supporting him.

Could that potentially be a result of having a much worse team, top to bottom? Outside of Hunter, its seems like they are JAGs.

If you are an elite QB, you should technically uplift the whole team. I just don't see that with him. I think he'll ultimately be a bust unless some QB guru gets to coach him. My money is on him sucking.

 

[Spider2YB]

It's really unlikely, but conceivable.

The first domino is stafford to Giants in a package sending the 3rd pick to LA. I don't think they pay that but maybe they think they are just a QB away.

Then assume that Rodgers is cut and basically free for one season at veteran minimum because he comes with a boatload of offset-able guaranteed money (like Russ going to Pittsburg). Even with his baggage, Rodgers might have his pick of teams if he's playing for $1.3m next season. Rams make sense to him because we're contenders, McVay could maximize his remaining talent and he has a house in Malibu.

Schefter says there is ZERO chance NYG trades the 3rd pick for Stafford. He’s adamant there is no universe in which that happens.

 

[Memento]

There's no way I take Shedeur Sanders or his brother, Shilo. Serious attitude issues in them both (and I'd say that Travis Hunter has serious attitude issues as well, and he's not nearly as good as people think he is), and the latter has serious character issues as well.

 

[Faceplant]

There's no way I take Shedeur Sanders or his brother, Shilo. Serious attitude issues in them both (and I'd say that Travis Hunter has serious attitude issues as well, and he's not nearly as good as people think he is), and the latter has serious character issues as well.

Really?? Maybe I missed all of the news of these attitude and character issues, but I also feel like you throw this type of criticism around more than most. From what I have read about Hunter, he is a good egg, but hate on...

Personally, I don't think either of the Sanders kids are talented or mature enough for the NFL, at least not yet. Hunter is a hell of a player though, IMO. I think he will be just fine.

 

[Neil039]

I think Ward is as good as any qb to come out lately. Has a wicked fast release. Not impressed with Sanders

@Flatlyner adding to dieterbrock's post.

I watched all of Sanders games this year. He's got touch and can make most throws.

Where he completely lacks pro level skills is pocket awareness. He gets lost at times and makes silly decisions. He'll take sacks that make zero sense or hold onto the ball with short to intermediate options open. Some of this can be attributed to coaching, some of it is just a lack of natural instincts.

I'm a CU guy. IMO he's not a day one draft pick, possibly a 3rd round pick as a developmental guy.

 

[Memento]

Really?? Maybe I missed all of the news of these attitude and character issues, but I also feel like you throw this type of criticism around more than most. From what I have read about Hunter, he is a good egg, but hate on...

Personally, I don't think either of the Sanders kids are talented or mature enough for the NFL, at least not yet. Hunter is a hell of a player though, IMO. I think he will be just fine.

Considering that Shedeur has been a very entitled little bitch during competitive play and that he's been a very poor sport in almost every game he's played in? Normally, it would be fine, but he's supposed to be a quarterback and the leader of his team, and he acts in such an immature manner.

Considering Hunter is a massive diva - and again, I don't think he's nearly as good as he thinks he is. I don't think he's very talented as a wide receiver, and I'd honestly take Will Johnson and Shavon Revel Jr. over him at cornerback - who might be selected with the number one overall pick? Not exactly a We-not-Me player, right?

Considering Shilo attacked a security guard to the point of permanent injuries and has consistently ducked paying said security guard after every court has demanded that he pay (by filing bankruptcy. Didn't stop Shilo from buying multiple necklaces, getting paid by NIL, and transferring said NIL funds to his own company that hasn't been filed under bankruptcy.)?

Shilo is a ginormous piece of shit. Shadeur is an asshole on the field with attitude concerns I absolutely don't want as my quarterback. Hunter is a diva. This is not just me saying that; you can look no further than their actions and judge them based on that.

 

[Neil039]

There's no way I take Shedeur Sanders or his brother, Shilo. Serious attitude issues in them both (and I'd say that Travis Hunter has serious attitude issues as well, and he's not nearly as good as people think he is), and the latter has serious character issues as well.

You are spot on Memento!

Members can hate my post, I'm ok with it. All three have this "Keeping it Real Attitude". Very street and thuggish.

Look up Sanders brothers threatening Texas Tech Ball Boy (college student). You would thought they were in a gang fight and never had opportunities to succeed. Pathetic look for the University. I was hoping Deion would leave to coach Dallas. Rampant stories about their behaviors on CU's campus.

 

[Faceplant]

Considering that Shedeur has been a very entitled little bitch during competitive play and that he's been a very poor sport in almost every game he's played in? Normally, it would be fine, but he's supposed to be a quarterback and the leader of his team, and he acts in such an immature manner.

Considering Hunter is a massive diva - and again, I don't think he's nearly as good as he thinks he is. I don't think he's very talented as a wide receiver, and I'd honestly take Will Johnson and Shavon Revel Jr. over him at cornerback - who might be selected with the number one overall pick? Not exactly a We-not-Me player, right?

Considering Shilo attacked a security guard to the point of permanent injuries and has consistently ducked paying said security guard after every court has demanded that he pay (by filing bankruptcy. Didn't stop Shilo from buying multiple necklaces, getting paid by NIL, and transferring said NIL funds to his own company that hasn't been filed under bankruptcy.)?

Shilo is a ginormous piece of shit. Shadeur is an asshole on the field with attitude concerns I absolutely don't want as my quarterback. Hunter is a diva. This is not just me saying that; you can look no further than their actions and judge them based on that.

Nah, I'll just leave that to you. You can see things most can't from that perch upon the highest horse that ever lived....