Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[OldSchool]

I can't say that I'm a fan of any QB in this draft class.

If they deal Stafford I think they should go with Garoppolo. And competition would involve either bringing in 25 year old Zack Wilson or trading for Joe Milton.


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Why would the Patriots trade Milton? I cannot see any world where he's available in a trade.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Why would the Patriots trade Milton? I cannot see any world where he's available in a trade.

Because Drake Maye is their starting QB and he has value. Why not?

 

[OldSchool]

Also from what I see Shough's birthday is September 28, 1998 not on draft weekend like McShay says so he's 5 ish months younger fwiw.

 

[OldSchool]

Because Drake Maye is their starting QB and he has value.

Not nearly as much value as having a backup QB with talent. It would be idiotic to trade your backup without another viable one.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Not nearly as much value as having a backup QB with talent. It would be idiotic to trade your backup without another viable one.

They couldn't sign a veteran backup to assist in Drake Maye's development? They should.

 

[OldSchool]

They couldn't sign a veteran backup to assist in Drake Maye's development? They should.

Why when you have the guy in building. And why get older? When he played last year he was good there's no reason at all to trade him. This is the kind of thought train if McSnead traded him away as our backup you would be calling them both dirty names and saying they should be fired. I get wanting him but is it honestly realistic for NE to trade him?

 

[Memphis Ram]

Why when you have the guy in building. And why get older? When he played last year he was good there's no reason at all to trade him. This is the kind of thought train if McSnead traded him away as our backup you would be calling them both dirty names and saying they should be fired. I get wanting him but is it honestly realistic for NE to trade him?

No you are mistaken. I would applaud McSnead for not letting as asset sit on the bench when his trade value could net a player(s) that would help a talent deprived team fill other holes.

The only way it would be idiotic to trade Milton would be if I were not convinced that Drake Maye was my franchise QB. A raw backup QB doesn't support my franchise guy better than a veteran backup.

 

[OldSchool]

No you are mistaken. I would applaud McSnead for not letting as asset sit on the bench when his trade value could net a player(s) that would help a talent deprived team fill other holes.

The only way it would be idiotic to trade Milton would be if I were not convinced that Drake Maye was my franchise QB. A raw backup QB doesn't support my franchise guy better than a veteran backup.

Trading away a viable backup QB is not a good thing but I'm glad one person in the world thinks it is.

 

[OldSchool]

Interesting found a mock that has us drafting Shough

Los Angeles Rams 2025 Mock Draft: Post-Super Bowl Edition

The Los Angeles Rams are back to being a perennial playoff team as their young roster continues to surge and grow as a whole. General manager Les Snead and head

www.si.com

 

[Merlin]

AND he might lead us to another Super Bowl win this year. High draft picks means shyte unless you get lucky. We had a number 1 over all and a 2 over all which resulted in Bradford and Long, neither of which did shyte for us as far as winning Super Bowls. It's all a crap shoot with draft picks when we have as sure of thing as possible with Matthew Stafford. We all have fucking amnesia on this site as far as how bad we were at picking QB's over the years.

I had to laugh at that report where they're talking like there is no way that 3 overall would ever be used for Stafford. Because they need a QB and shit looks real different on that side of the fence. And this perception that a 2-3 year rental is not worth a first round pick is comical when that pick has no chance to produce a QB and your regime up there in NY hasn't done a fucking thing even with high draft picks coming in.

This isn't to say I think they're really offering that pick for him. But just acting like the 3 overall is some holy fucking grail is very funny to me. Giants got real fucking lucky that Nabers got to them in that other draft. Cards should have taken Nabers. But a 3 overall can bust just as easy as the rest of 'em.

Can't wait to get that report that a deal's done with Stafford. Then we can get back to weapons and a corner.

Shough has a ton of talent you just have to be worried about the clavicle injuries. He's broken it twice that seems too much to be a fluke. Also don't care about the age though some people will lose their mind over it.

Also I'm ignoring McShay's comment about how good he'd be with McVay because he says that about all the QB's. He's giving our coach props more than the prospect.

I watched that Senior Bowl week and I don't really see Shough as some elite prospect when he's on the field. He's a good young prospect but feels like the injury is looming with him. I'd rather keep the old gunslinger who will play through injuries.

Rourke by the way is the same for me. Where I think ok this kid's got something to him but the injuries. He's got another ACL in his future.

If we're gonna use a pick that should be going to a weapon for the offense or a key piece for the defense to instead add a redshirt QB, I think it is wise to get one who doesn't have that tendency to miss games.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Trading away a viable backup QB is not a good thing but I'm glad one person in the world thinks it is.

I'm shocked that anyone would question a team with a franchise QB entering only his second season trading their backup QB. I'm also shocked that as raw as he was coming out of college he's already been deemed a viable backup NFL QB after one game. I just considered him for competition. I don't know what he is yet.

 

[Flatlyner]

Anyone think Hooker has a future in the NFL? I think he has looked good when he has been on the field, albeit that was preseason. Slightly concerning that the Lions signed Teddy Two Gloves instead of trusting him in the playoffs.

 

[OldSchool]

I had to laugh at that report where they're talking like there is no way that 3 overall would ever be used for Stafford. Because they need a QB and shit looks real different on that side of the fence. And this perception that a 2-3 year rental is not worth a first round pick is comical when that pick has no chance to produce a QB and your regime up there in NY hasn't done a fucking thing even with high draft picks coming in.

This isn't to say I think they're really offering that pick for him. But just acting like the 3 overall is some holy fucking grail is very funny to me. Giants got real fucking lucky that Nabers got to them in that other draft. Cards should have taken Nabers. But a 3 overall can bust just as easy as the rest of 'em.

Can't wait to get that report that a deal's done with Stafford. Then we can get back to weapons and a corner.


I watched that Senior Bowl week and I don't really see Shough as some elite prospect when he's on the field. He's a good young prospect but feels like the injury is looming with him. I'd rather keep the old gunslinger who will play through injuries.

Rourke by the way is the same for me. Where I think ok this kid's got something to him but the injuries. He's got another ACL in his future.

If we're gonna use a pick that should be going to a weapon for the offense or a key piece for the defense to instead add a redshirt QB, I think it is wise to get one who doesn't have that tendency to miss games.

What's interesting to me is reading across many platforms it really seems that fans are higher on Rourke than the "experts" are. Even McShay above has him above Rourke and he's not the only one I've seen that on. This site which is a combo of each group has them 10 picks apart.

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[PhillyRam]

Huge fan of taking Dart with pick #26 if we trade Stafford for a late first and second (for example, the Steelers). I don't think we'll get much more than that.

Just read an article where a NFL writer floated a Steelers deal that could look like a swap of 26 for 21, plus the Steelers 2nd in 25', plus a 2nd in 26' that could be elevated to a 1st if Stafford takes 65% of the snaps in 25'

That would seem reasonable.

 

[OldSchool]

I'm shocked that anyone would question a team with a franchise QB entering only his second season trading their backup QB. I'm also shocked that as raw as he was coming out of college he's already been deemed a viable backup NFL QB after one game. I just considered him for competition. I don't know what he is yet.

Two words for you.

Injuries happen

You do not trade away a backup QB for no reason other than you want another draft pick. If the team didn't like Big Joe they don't draft him in the same draft as Maye. They saw the value they saw the talent and they spent a pick on him. To think they would then turn around and get rid of a 2nd QB they clearly value just make absolutely zero sense.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I had to laugh at that report where they're talking like there is no way that 3 overall would ever be used for Stafford. Because they need a QB and shit looks real different on that side of the fence. And this perception that a 2-3 year rental is not worth a first round pick is comical when that pick has no chance to produce a QB and your regime up there in NY hasn't done a fucking thing even with high draft picks coming in.

This isn't to say I think they're really offering that pick for him. But just acting like the 3 overall is some holy fucking grail is very funny to me. Giants got real fucking lucky that Nabers got to them in that other draft. Cards should have taken Nabers. But a 3 overall can bust just as easy as the rest of 'em.

It is crazy as the team isn't ready to win yet. Stafford's not the final piece of all that ails the Giants. Besides, Stafford could play one season and retire. Plus, they've got to pay him a huge deal? That would be a horrible trade for the Giants.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Two words for you.

Injuries happen

You do not trade away a backup QB for no reason other than you want another draft pick. If the team didn't like Big Joe they don't draft him in the same draft as Maye. They saw the value they saw the talent and they spent a pick on him. To think they would then turn around and get rid of a 2nd QB they clearly value just make absolutely zero sense.

Sure injuries happens. No one says that they should go into the season with only one QB. That's why I mentioned signing the veteran backup. A backup who at this time would probably be better than the raw Milton.

And how do you know how much they clearly value Milton? We have no idea. They've got an entirely new coaching staff in New England. It's doubtful that the new regime is already so tied to a 6th round pick where he's untouchable.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah, if they move on, we just gotta hope they nail their future QB and if they they do, a big IF, they would be in great shape going forward. In 2026 as of right now $90M in cap space. If they move on from Stafford this year you can add $50M more to that. Trading Kupp and taking the entire hit this year, add another $30M.

So they would have a ridiculous amount of cap room to not only extend their own stars, but to go shopping for more help in FA or via trades etc...

Plus, knowing that in terms of extra cap room, you can forfeit a ton of draft picks to go target a QB on the draft. Maybe even taking a few swings.

Let's say they are intrigued by Dart and they use a 3rd to move up in rd 1 this year and take him. Maybe by 26' they are not sold on him and so in next year's draft they can go get another young QB because they will have a ton of cap space to fill their needs.

If they can hit on a QB like Dart or Shough even, they are in great shape be dominant for years from a total roster perspective.

BTW a good video by McShay on Shough and Dart... by the way he mentions that he would love to see either of these guys with McVay.... He also dives into the RBs


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Can't wait for their DT episode! I didn't know McShay was doing this with Mench

 

[OldSchool]

Sure injuries happens. No one says that they should go into the season with only one QB. That's why I mentioned signing the veteran backup. A backup who at this time would probably be better than the raw Milton.

And how do you know how much they clearly value Milton? We have no idea. They've got an entirely new coaching staff in New England.

Wolf drafted him and is still there. And yeah I think Vrabel with his QB history is going to value having a backup QB.

 

[WestCoastRam]

In other words, this might down in history as the absolute worst QB draft class ever. I actually wholeheartedly agree with your assessments. If Cam Ward is the best thing it is an absolute shit class. If Milroe is your 3rd, 4th or 5th best prospect then this class is going to be epic(ally bad). Maybe we could revisit this in about 5 years.

Yeah, it's generally considered really bad. People keep mentioning 2013 and and more recently 2022 but maybe 2007 would be a better comp.