OFFICIAL Los Angeles Rams Training Camp 2025

[fearsomefour]

Yeah - it’s starting already,especially with no validation.

Well, there is some validation as Shelton has a hard time standing up to a bull rush and has gotten pushed back often in his career.
This year is this year.....we shall see.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Validation? Go watch last season's Bears games, then you'll see why they didn't resign him.

 

[RamFan503]

Yeah - it’s starting already,especially with no validation.

^^^This

Well, there is some validation as Shelton has a hard time standing up to a bull rush and has gotten pushed back often in his career.
This year is this year.....we shall see.

Except that we get one report that Puna is doing well and that somehow translates to Shelton sucks.

 

[Tano]

Just read where Landman and Speights are taking the lead right now at the two ILB positions

 

[bubbaramfan]

Loading the cooler with Blue Moon, getting ready to head out to TC. I,ll be watching OL and DL real close today. Bummer I can:t find my recorder so will have to do report from memory.

Where am I going? Oh yeah, Charger TC

 

[Merlin]

So, this is going to get old this year......like every first down given up was Witherspoons fault for a year or so, even if the team was playing zone....every broken tackle or long run was Reeders fault even if he was on the other side of the field.....This year, every pressure or sack will be Sheltons fault no matter what.
This board always has a whipping boy or two....usually misplaced.
The Rams didn't pay Shelton $6 M a year to sit behind a guy on his low round rookie deal.
Shelton will be the starter unless he plays his way out of his starting role.....which he well could.
The reality is Limmer was solid. He wasn't great. He was a surprise being solid given where he was drafted and lack of experience. He deserves a lot of credit for what he accomplished.
Avila was injured and then below average for most of the season.
Dotson was injured and below average until the last quarter of the season or so.
The entire interior line has a lot to prove this year I think.

Maybe so. Lot of shit gets old on this board in fact, and we all have our opinions on what constitutes old.

But let's not characterize Shelton as some kind of victim. His weakness is one-on-one vs powerful rushers. This is a known problem of his. Poona Ford has owned his ass prior, so I am sure he requires help vs him in camp. Reading anything more than that into my words is a waste of time and effort.

Also an off hand mention of Shelton does not mean I am exempting any other issues on the line.

Avila looked like dogshit last year compared to his rookie season. Maybe we can lay it all on injuries too, but I don't buy that shit personally. I think it goes back to the stupid decision to try him at C. That decision cut into what little work these guys get in preseason in the first place under McVay, and he never really found his footing thereafter. I think injuries were partially to blame, but not going to give him a pass by any means based on them nor will I presume he'll rebound. We'll see.

I think one key to any OL is that it is a group where the strength of the unit as a whole can be greater than the individual parts when they are all playing off one sheet of music. And that takes time and snaps and good coaching to get to that level. So I agree with the idea our interior OL underperformed last season, also with the idea that having a rook at C was part of the problem.

But Limmer is going into season 2. And Shelton was brought in to give that position a "floor." Meaning if Limmer cannot exceed that floor he will be on the bench. He knows where the standard is now, in that he'll have to make good calls and lead the unit. Because Shelton did those things very well. If we are lucky Limmer will elevate his calls and leadership and win that job and not look back.

In the event Shelton starts I still think we can have a good line, he'll just need help vs some matchups. Really the single biggest key is the LT position and Jackson's status. In other words I personally think we have enough horses on the interior to where they'll be much improved and whoever starts the calls should be good. So it's gonna be about blindside protection.

 

[Pupped]

Maybe so. Lot of shit gets old on this board in fact, and we all have our opinions on what constitutes old.

But let's not characterize Shelton as some kind of victim. His weakness is one-on-one vs powerful rushers. This is a known problem of his. Poona Ford has owned his ass prior, so I am sure he requires help vs him in camp. Reading anything more than that into my words is a waste of time and effort.

Also an off hand mention of Shelton does not mean I am exempting any other issues on the line.

Avila looked like dogshit last year compared to his rookie season. Maybe we can lay it all on injuries too, but I don't buy that shit personally. I think it goes back to the stupid decision to try him at C. That decision cut into what little work these guys get in preseason in the first place under McVay, and he never really found his footing thereafter. I think injuries were partially to blame, but not going to give him a pass by any means based on them nor will I presume he'll rebound. We'll see.

I think one key to any OL is that it is a group where the strength of the unit as a whole can be greater than the individual parts when they are all playing off one sheet of music. And that takes time and snaps and good coaching to get to that level. So I agree with the idea our interior OL underperformed last season, also with the idea that having a rook at C was part of the problem.

But Limmer is going into season 2. And Shelton was brought in to give that position a "floor." Meaning if Limmer cannot exceed that floor he will be on the bench. He knows where the standard is now, in that he'll have to make good calls and lead the unit. Because Shelton did those things very well. If we are lucky Limmer will elevate his calls and leadership and win that job and not look back.

In the event Shelton starts I still think we can have a good line, he'll just need help vs some matchups. Really the single biggest key is the LT position and Jackson's status. In other words I personally think we have enough horses on the interior to where they'll be much improved and whoever starts the calls should be good. So it's gonna be about blindside protection.

Really excellent post, imo.

Especially the part about Shelton being the floor. GREAT way to think about the situation.

I hope there is much more ceiling to Limmer.. that would be fun.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Really excellent post, imo.

Especially the part about Shelton being the floor. GREAT way to think about the situation.

I hope there is much more ceiling to Limmer.. that would be fun.

It's Limmer's job to take, let's see him take it!

 

[Allen2McVay]

It's Limmer's job to take, let's see him take it!

Anything's possible. Maybe Limmer has a great Camp and Pre-season, while Shelton struggles. However, McVay has stated Shelton was signed to start at Center.

EDIT: I just realized that perhaps you meant "It's Limmer's job to take" ... FROM SHELTON.
... if so, I apologize and ...

 

[WestCoastRam]

Anything's possible. Maybe Limmer has a great Camp and Pre-season, while Shelton struggles. However, McVay has stated Shelton was signed to start at Center.

Yeah, I just refuse to take this framing of Shelton sucks (he absolutely has physical limitations and is a below average center) when the better framing is that Limmer needs to work hard to take the job.

I know what Shelton is and I don't expect anything different. It's incumbent on the 2nd year center to show that he should be the one in that job. HE'S the one who needs to show me something different.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Yeah, I just refuse to take this framing of Shelton sucks (he absolutely has physical limitations and is a below average center) when the better framing is that Limmer needs to work hard to take the job.

I know what Shelton is and I don't expect anything different. It's incumbent on the 2nd year center to show that he should be the one in that job. HE'S the one who needs to show me something different.

I agree with the above sentiment.

Would also add ... and there is NO WAY to prove it ... the the Shelton signing ... with every intention to start ... was largely based on one fucking play. Limmer and Dotson allowing Jalen Carter to run by them for that sack.

As weak as Shelton can be against a power rush, had he just stood in front of Carter and been bulldozed, that may have been enough for Stafford to hit a wide-open Higbee.

 

[Corbin]

Maybe so. Lot of shit gets old on this board in fact, and we all have our opinions on what constitutes old.

But let's not characterize Shelton as some kind of victim. His weakness is one-on-one vs powerful rushers. This is a known problem of his. Poona Ford has owned his ass prior, so I am sure he requires help vs him in camp. Reading anything more than that into my words is a waste of time and effort.

Also an off hand mention of Shelton does not mean I am exempting any other issues on the line.

Avila looked like dogshit last year compared to his rookie season. Maybe we can lay it all on injuries too, but I don't buy that shit personally. I think it goes back to the stupid decision to try him at C. That decision cut into what little work these guys get in preseason in the first place under McVay, and he never really found his footing thereafter. I think injuries were partially to blame, but not going to give him a pass by any means based on them nor will I presume he'll rebound. We'll see.

I think one key to any OL is that it is a group where the strength of the unit as a whole can be greater than the individual parts when they are all playing off one sheet of music. And that takes time and snaps and good coaching to get to that level. So I agree with the idea our interior OL underperformed last season, also with the idea that having a rook at C was part of the problem.

But Limmer is going into season 2. And Shelton was brought in to give that position a "floor." Meaning if Limmer cannot exceed that floor he will be on the bench. He knows where the standard is now, in that he'll have to make good calls and lead the unit. Because Shelton did those things very well. If we are lucky Limmer will elevate his calls and leadership and win that job and not look back.

In the event Shelton starts I still think we can have a good line, he'll just need help vs some matchups. Really the single biggest key is the LT position and Jackson's status. In other words I personally think we have enough horses on the interior to where they'll be much improved and whoever starts the calls should be good. So it's gonna be about blindside protection.

Friday April 30th 2021 8:07pm EST NEVER FORGET WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!!!

 

[Merlin]

However, McVay has stated Shelton was signed to start at Center.

McVay says a lot of shit. And as much as I love him also as great as we all know he is, he is often completely full of shit at the podium. So I don't put a lot of stock into what he says.

And in this case we know who Shelton is. He's not a bad center. He's a low average range center who has a great mind for the job.

So translating McVay-speak he probably projects that Shelton will win the job. But if Limmer were to make a year two jump Shelton has a major camp battle on his hands. And don't think for a minute that McVay would lock Shelton in as the starter if that were the case, because Shelton is not that good.

Shelton has to be the favorite for sure. I think McVay was very upset at how that game in Philly ended and rightly so. But it's not like it's Jackson vs McClendon there, where the difference in quality is vast, assuming Limmer improves year two which often happens. Hopefully what we see is a bit of a competition, because that is best for the line overall. Again though I do like our interior OL. I think our issues are primarily OT depth, which means our line overall should be one of the better units this year assuming we have Jackson.

 

[RamFan503]

Can someone actually provide the quote where McVay says Shelton was signed to start at center? I've never known him to make such statements.

 

[PARAM]

Can someone actually provide the quote where McVay says Shelton was signed to start at center? I've never known him to make such statements.

He doesn't make such statements. He gives nothing to anybody.....well maybe WR2 to Davante Adams but who wouldn't? I think his hope is Shelton beats out Limmer and/or teaches Limmer the NFL way of what to expect.

 

[Ram Ts]

lil Tyler Davis shoutout too

I’ll be honest, I totally forgot about Tyler Davis. Wasn’t even considering him going forward on the DL. Him stepping up a level or two would be a very nice surprise.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I agree with the above sentiment.

Would also add ... and there is NO WAY to prove it ... the the Shelton signing ... with every intention to start ... was largely based on one fucking play. Limmer and Dotson allowing Jalen Carter to run by them for that sack.

As weak as Shelton can be against a power rush, had he just stood in front of Carter and been bulldozed, that may have been enough for Stafford to hit a wide-open Higbee.

Yeah, I suspect Limmer had issues with line calls through the year... it looked like Dotson would make calls at times.

 

[majrleaged]

Can someone actually provide the quote where McVay says Shelton was signed to start at center? I've never known him to make such statements.

I heard him say it, but I think it is a perfect stick and the carrot is the starting position.

 

[RamFan503]

I heard him say it, but I think it is a perfect stick and the carrot is the starting position.

Could be. It just doesn’t sound like something McVay would say before they even strap on the cleats.

 

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