Jalen Ramsey watch party

[FrantikRam]

Well, when people pointed to these three games to assert that the offense was atrocious, many, and IIRC you included, asserted that the scores were so low because of the bad weather. If so, that also applies to the defense.

Also, do we really want to use those three sucky teams as the measuring stick?

I agree. Lets use the elite WRs they shut down in the playoffs instead.

 

[DzRams]

I agree. Lets use the elite WRs they shut down in the playoffs instead.

Yeah, the Vikings win was impressive.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

I hope that loser doesn't come back here. Sick of overpaying for washed up players.

 

[Loyal]

Arms are big enough for CB, but dude looks like he has skipped leg day, since H.S.
No thighs whatsoever. Hard to drive through tackles with weak thighs.
If he didn't he Should have spent offseason
focusing on leg strength.

I don't know this kids commitment but he should have pulled a Fiske.
Fiske has been working on strengthening his muscles around the knee he
injured in Playoffs.
The man has been at Rams facility the entire off season!!!
With that work ethic and non stop motor Fiske gonna be scary!

Maybe force Forbes to spend a summer with AD. LOL

AD says "it's always "leg day" till we puke." ~ Forbes

 

[Memento]

I hope that loser doesn't come back here. Sick of overpaying for washed up players.

“That loser” won a Super Bowl with us, and you know that McVay would say, throughout the season, that Ramsey was a major reason why we won. He may not be the cornerback he was in the past, but he still brings physicality and sets the tone.

You may not like him, and you don’t have to, but Jalen Ramsey, since he won a Super Bowl and was a major contributor, is the very definition of a winner.

 

[André]

“That loser” won a Super Bowl with us, and you know that McVay would say, throughout the season, that Ramsey was a major reason why we won. He may not be the cornerback he was in the past, but he still brings physicality and sets the tone.

You may not like him, and you don’t have to, but Jalen Ramsey, since he won a Super Bowl and was a major contributor, is the very definition of a winner.

Amen.

 

[Allen2McVay]

“That loser” won a Super Bowl with us, and you know that McVay would say, throughout the season, that Ramsey was a major reason why we won. He may not be the cornerback he was in the past, but he still brings physicality and sets the tone.

You may not like him, and you don’t have to, but Jalen Ramsey, since he won a Super Bowl and was a major contributor, is the very definition of a winner.

I agree with everything you wrote but I did not think Ramsey played well in the 2021 post-season.

In the Divisional Round, Ramsey was covering Evans on the 55-yard-TD with three minutes to go that pulled the Bucs to within seven. In the NFC Championship, Ramsey dropped an interception with six-plus minutes to play that would have had the ball deep inside Niners' territory, with the score tied. In the final moments of the Super Bowl, Ramsey miss-played an out to Chase that moved the ball to near mid-field.

Of course the Rams won all those games but Ramsey came-up short late in all three games. The Rams' other three stars (Stafford, Donald and Kupp) came-up huge in the critical moments of those games.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I agree with everything you wrote but I did not think Ramsey played well in the 2021 post-season.

In the Divisional Round, Ramsey was covering Evans on the 55-yard-TD with three minutes to go that pulled the Bucs to within seven. In the NFC Championship, Ramsey dropped an interception with six-plus minutes to play that would have had the ball deep inside Niners' territory, with the score tied. In the final moments of the Super Bowl, Ramsey miss-played an out to Chase that moved the ball to near mid-field.

Of course the Rams won all those games but Ramsey came-up short late in all three games. The Rams' other three stars (Stafford, Donald and Kupp) came-up huge in the critical moments of those games.

You are right. I even wondered if he was paid to throw the game. Those few plays were big gaffes that were not characteristic of his play that season (minus the drop).

But then I recalled McVay talking about how much is asked of the star position. It’s a difficult position to play. It’s part of why I’m not too critical of Lake. Playing the Star requires the rest of the DBs to know and perform their jobs. Maybe Ramsey was trying yo do too much mentally, or teams took advantage of his position. Maybe he is better playing without the responsibility of the star position. Maybe he plays free just being an outside corner.

If the Rams do get him on the team, Lake can stay at the Star and it just strengthens our DB rotation and guards against injury. I think Ramsey could play both Corner and all three safety positions along with the Star. The biggest negative could be that some guys don’t play as much. Maybe that keeps them all fresher.

 

[tempests]

I agree with everything you wrote but I did not think Ramsey played well in the 2021 post-season.

In the Divisional Round, Ramsey was covering Evans on the 55-yard-TD with three minutes to go that pulled the Bucs to within seven. In the NFC Championship, Ramsey dropped an interception with six-plus minutes to play that would have had the ball deep inside Niners' territory, with the score tied. In the final moments of the Super Bowl, Ramsey miss-played an out to Chase that moved the ball to near mid-field.

Of course the Rams won all those games but Ramsey came-up short late in all three games. The Rams' other three stars (Stafford, Donald and Kupp) came-up huge in the critical moments of those games.

It wasn't a good postseason but Chase is a triple crown winner and Evans has 100+ career touchdowns. Brady and Burrow are/were pretty good QBs too. People forget these guys can beat any defensive back in the game.

As I recall Ramsey didn't allow a pass completion in his coverage in the NFC Championship.

 

[Allen2McVay]

It wasn't a good postseason but Chase is a triple crown winner and Evans has 100+ career touchdowns. Brady and Burrow are/were pretty good QBs too. People forget these guys can beat any defensive back in the game.

As I recall Ramsey didn't allow a pass completion in his coverage in the NFC Championship.

I still like him but not sure I see Ramsey as a difference-maker at this point; and don't want the Rams to expend any valuable capital (draft choices or significant cap space) bringing him back.

 

[DzRams]

I still like him but not sure I see Ramsey as a difference-maker at this point; and don't want the Rams to expend any valuable capital (draft choices or significant cap space) bringing him back.

I'm not sure if he's a difference maker at this point either but I'm certain that he's a lot better than what we have. That's the measuring stick, IMO. I don't want the Rams to spend more than a 4th, but have no problem with them expending cap space. If they make that move, they feel it's worth it, and I'd have no reason not to trust that judgment.

 

[Allen2McVay]

... but have no problem with them expending cap space. If they make that move, they feel it's worth it, and I'd have no reason not to trust that judgment.

The Rams have great decision-makers. I would not trade McVay and Snead for any other NFL combination.

That being said, they are not perfect and have made mistakes.

 

[majrleaged]

In general I kept thinking he was trying to be a hero and left himself open to get burned. Like for instance, he tried to jump Chases route on Cincy's 1st play of there last drive and got burned for 30 yards. I think he is still a very tough defender, but he needs to let the game come to him instead of playing hero ball.

 

[RecklessRams]

Good thing I never got a Ramsey #21 or #5 jersey. He did his thing here and earned a SB ring. I'm digging our current CB's and depth. He's living it up in South Beach, let him be. IMO.

 

[DzRams]

The Rams have great decision-makers. I would not trade McVay and Snead for any other NFL combination.

That being said, they are not perfect and have made mistakes.

Agreed. And I don't mind salary cap mistakes. I like big swings with the understanding that sometimes there will be big misses.

I don't like mistakes in paying too much in draft capital.

 

[kurtfaulk]

In general I kept thinking he was trying to be a hero and left himself open to get burned. Like for instance, he tried to jump Chases route on Cincy's 1st play of there last drive and got burned for 30 yards. I think he is still a very tough defender, but he needs to let the game come to him instead of playing hero ball.

That was such a horrible play on the last drive of a superbowl. It made it much more nerve racking than it should have been.

.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Agreed. And I don't mind salary cap mistakes. I like big swings with the understanding that sometimes there will be big misses.

I don't like mistakes in paying too much in draft capital.

We're pretty-much on the same page here.

I just don't see re-acquiring Ramsey as a 'big swing' because I no longer see him as a difference-maker.

 

[Allen2McVay]

In general I kept thinking he was trying to be a hero and left himself open to get burned. Like for instance, he tried to jump Chases route on Cincy's 1st play of there last drive and got burned for 30 yards.

I agree ... but he was not even close on that play.

I think he is still a very tough defender, but he needs to let the game come to him instead of playing hero ball.

Agree again ... but don't you think he should have figured that out by now ... and, more importantly, do you think he will ever figure it out and change?

Man, it sounds like I am ripping Jalen Ramsey ... and, I really do not mean to.

I just don't want him back with the Rams for anything less than a very reasonable contract which will only happen if the Rams do NOT trade for him but hope Miami releases him and no one picks him (and his contract) up, and he becomes a free agent. And then, he signs with the Rams for less money that he could get elsewhere because he wants to be with the Rams and try to win another Super Bowl.

I just don't see All That happening.

 

[majrleaged]

I agree ... but he was not even close on that play.


Agree again ... but don't you think he should have figured that out by now ... and, more importantly, do you think he will ever figure it out and change?

Man, it sounds like I am ripping Jalen Ramsey ... and, I really do not mean to.

I just don't want him back with the Rams for anything less than a very reasonable contract which will only happen if the Rams do NOT trade for him but hope Miami releases him and no one picks him (and his contract) up, and he becomes a free agent. And then, he signs with the Rams for less money that he could get elsewhere because he wants to be with the Rams and try to win another Super Bowl.

I just don't see All That happening.

That is what I am hoping for as well.
During the SB run I just thought he let the moment get to him. Now he has lost a step but, would really improve our back end. Probably move our D into top 5.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

We're pretty-much on the same page here.

I just don't see re-acquiring Ramsey as a 'big swing' because I no longer see him as a difference-maker.

I still think he’d be the Rams best corner. If Lake stayed at the Star position Ramsey can just focus on playing outside corner or better yet slot.

I guess the biggest reason I like the idea is I keep picturing him tackling Barkley and maybe terrorizing tight ends. Those were weak areas for the Rams. I keep having nightmares of freakin Jonnu Smith running free behind the D-line and Barkley breaking long runs.

I also think Ramsey brings a bit of attitude to the DB group that meshes with what Verse does up front.

A year or two of Ramsey playing close to the LOS could ease the transition of guys like Dolac and Paul too.