Is this Cooper Kupp's last season with the Rams?

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InfiniteRam

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Hoping you are correct. But I have a bad feeling about this.
I think Kupp will look much better next season after another offseason of recovery. Still believe he's a capable 1000 yard receiver.

McVay needs to work with Stafford on spreading the ball around. He has a tendency to lock onto Nacua, and that didn't really stop until the last couple games of the season.

I think involving the TE more could be key to revamping the pass attack next year.
 

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How realistic is a trade?
Kupp has a guaranteed roster bonus 7.5 mill
Salary (non guaranteed) 12.5 mill
Kupp has a dead cap hit of 9.8 mill if he stays a Ram in 2025
Kupp has 17.3 dead money due if cut or traded (prior to June 1)

So a team trades for him and agrees to take on the roster bonus and salary, the Rams take a hit of 17.3 mill instead of the full 29.8. Sounds great but who wants to pay him 20 mill?? I cant imagine many, and likely for nothing more than a late round pick swap
Or
Rams eat the 7.5 bonus + the 17.3 dead cap, 24.8 hit and a team "only" pays him 12.5 mill for 2025 (non guaranteed salary/bonus in 2026)
For that I could see a team coughing up a 4th rounder
 

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How realistic is a trade?
Kupp has a guaranteed roster bonus 7.5 mill
Salary (non guaranteed) 12.5 mill
Kupp has a dead cap hit of 9.8 mill if he stays a Ram in 2025
Kupp has 17.3 dead money due if cut or traded (prior to June 1)

So a team trades for him and agrees to take on the roster bonus and salary, the Rams take a hit of 17.3 mill instead of the full 29.8. Sounds great but who wants to pay him 20 mill?? I cant imagine many, and likely for nothing more than a late round pick swap
Or
Rams eat the 7.5 bonus + the 17.3 dead cap, 24.8 hit and a team "only" pays him 12.5 mill for 2025 (non guaranteed salary/bonus in 2026)
For that I could see a team coughing up a 4th rounder
You should get out more.
 

JonRam99

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Did we all collectively forget what he brought to the team? catching the game-winning TD in the SB??
He's worth every cent we've paid him & every cent he'll get in '25.
That said, did we all also forget that he had a hamstring injury this (last) season? A good off-season conditioning program & he's good to go. He's still one of the best WR's on the field when he plays. A 3 WR set of him, Puka & new guy w/ real deep speed would be killer.
His value on the team is also what he brings as an on-the-field WR coach, making sure guys are lined up right. He hosts his own WR camps. If we draft a WR, think what he can do to get the new kid up to speed.
All this talk about his contract is just contractual crap--there's NO REASON the Rams FO can't work something out to help their cap hit in '25 so they can go after some key F/A's.
 

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Kupp's skills have declined. And he's at the age where injuries are more frequent. No matter how well you keep your body up, you can't beat father time. And you can't cure aging. They do need a WR2 to pair with the young buck Puka. Kupp is now WR3 material. Still, I'd rather see him retire as a Ram the way Donald did.
 

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Kupp's skills have declined. And he's at the age where injuries are more frequent. No matter how well you keep your body up, you can't beat father time. And you can't cure aging. They do need a WR2 to pair with the young buck Puka. Kupp is now WR3 material. Still, I'd rather see him retire as a Ram the way Donald did.
I'm honestly conflicted on his situation because I feel like the reason people are doubting Kupp's skills is because he doesn't show up in the box score as much. I feel like a lot of this is because plays aren't being run for him plus the fact that Stafford tends to lock into the alpha WR on a team more often than not. I saw Kupp make a unbelievable catch in the playoffs against the Eagles and saw a WR that still has it. He had 5 catches for 61 yards which is a good ass average. If my eyes remember correctly, his hands were actually more reliable than Puka's in that game as well. Not saying he's better than Puka but just stating what I saw. It wouldn't surprise me if someone reviewed the All 22 film and saw him open quite a bit but just not being thrown to. I'll admit, I haven't looked at it as I'm just too lazy to want to scour over that film lol
 

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Still dont get how they can "move on" from kupp

Salary cap/dead cap wise doesnt seem like a smart move.
 

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Kupp in 2025 is way more valuable than the cap savings to the rams. Now 2026 - different story.
 

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Still dont get how they can "move on" from kupp

Salary cap/dead cap wise doesnt seem like a smart move.
If they cut or trade him, he counts somewhere between 17-22 mill against the cap in ‘25
If he stays a Ram (with the contract as it currently stands) he counts close to 30 mill.
 

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How realistic is a trade?
Kupp has a guaranteed roster bonus 7.5 mill
Salary (non guaranteed) 12.5 mill
Kupp has a dead cap hit of 9.8 mill if he stays a Ram in 2025
Kupp has 17.3 dead money due if cut or traded (prior to June 1)

So a team trades for him and agrees to take on the roster bonus and salary, the Rams take a hit of 17.3 mill instead of the full 29.8. Sounds great but who wants to pay him 20 mill?? I cant imagine many, and likely for nothing more than a late round pick swap
Or
Rams eat the 7.5 bonus + the 17.3 dead cap, 24.8 hit and a team "only" pays him 12.5 mill for 2025 (non guaranteed salary/bonus in 2026)
For that I could see a team coughing up a 4th rounder
That's what I see too. Maybe find a way to trade one our 3rds for a decent 2nd.
 

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The Rams problems on offense go beyond Kupp. If they had a faster RB, and another receiver and TE that stretch the field then Kupp is fine working underneath.

But when defenses don’t respect the Rams ability to stretch the field and they stack the box it neutralizes what Kupp can do underneath.

Kupp is making too much for his role, but which team would take on that contract?
 

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The Rams problems on offense go beyond Kupp. If they had a faster RB, and another receiver and TE that stretch the field then Kupp is fine working underneath.

But when defenses don’t respect the Rams ability to stretch the field and they stack the box it neutralizes what Kupp can do underneath.

Kupp is making too much for his role, but which team would take on that contract?
No way for us to know for sure, but from my understanding, the Rams had takers when they quietly shopped him at the trade deadline this year. They were the ones who decided to keep him.
 

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No way for us to know for sure, but from my understanding, the Rams had takers when they quietly shopped him at the trade deadline this year. They were the ones who decided to keep him.
How do we know what’s true. Did they really have takers? Or was that to try to up bidding?
 

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How do we know what’s true. Did they really have takers? Or was that to try to up bidding?
Yeah, that's why I started with the caveat that there is no way to know for sure. I'm going by reports post mortem after the trade deadline had passed so bidding was over.

My impression was that the Rams were underwhelmed by the offers but could have traded him if they were willing to accept something less than a premium pick.