A great day for draftniks! (The No-trade sour grapes thread.)

[Kupped]

Let’s hope they can do enough player development this year.. and draft we’ll enough next year.. that they have good reason to go all-in next season.

 

[jrry32]

Does the Rams management manage the team to be middle of the pack?

Before this year, no.

 

[Kupped]

Oh.. and, fuck Cam.
Keep him on the 53 and inactive.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

Not sure if you are being serious or joking but this is just the reality we are in right now. We spent a lot of capital to get the Super Bowl last year. It was worth it. But it's going to take a year to get back to where we have the ammo again to pull stuff like this off. With the weird NFL season where almost everyone is still eyeing playoffs and the Rams kind of breaking the NFL with their success last year the costs were just too much for our limited means. Is what it is unfortunately. I still expect us to make some noise this season if we can stay healthy rest of way. But might be a retool year while we get some youth experience for next season.

He did punch his teammate not sure he's the best example

 

[jrry32]

My only complaint is how they have handled the RB room. I think they completely mismanaged it. And I think the RB coach will be fired at seasons end. Hopefully the TE coach too. McVay needs to reevaluate his opinion of some of his offensive staff, and that's if he doesn't get lured away this offseason by TV deals.

But they should have added a RB who can eat some carries. Lot of other teams did for cheap. Pisses me off.

The Edge types and players who require top picks, the Rams were just not in the ballpark. Teams look at our picks like they're gonna be end of round, on top of the fact we don't have shit to offer in trade compared to the rest of the teams copying what we did last season. So no reason to rage about all that. But the indecision with the backfield on the other hand...

They're not firing the TE Coach. But they should bump him (Thomas Brown) back to HB Coach.

 

[Tano]

Haven't thought about this aspect until you brought it up. It was McVays call to move Thomas Brown to TEs and hire the young RBs coach out of CFB. How much of the blame with Akers goes to him? I still think our OL is the main culprit for our running woes but this is probably a factor.

Well when you miss a 5 yard wide hole...

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Okay, I'll admit it... I wanted the Rams to make a trade.

I'm a sports fan. I like shiny new toys and the hope that they bring. I also like instant gratification, which a trade for an established player can provide.

But, in the end, you have to be smart about these things. I'm sure that, as much as the Rams tried, they didn't find a deal that made sense to them. Could they have offered more to get CMC or Brian Burns? I suppose. But there has to be a limit to what you spend - particularly in a season like this one, in which injuries have all but removed hopes of a championship run.

So, here's the bright side... draftniks still have second and third round picks to scout for! We can dream about OL, EDGE rushers and RBs on rookie contracts, making their mark in 2023.

I didn't really want a trade anyway. Really. I didn't. Trades suck.

(Anyone buying this?)

Yay, Snead can draft an unnecessary WR or trade back for Twenty sixth rounders

 

[XXXIVwin]

And just think...

By not trading our 2024 and 2025 first round picks, just think of the deal we can make next year for some stud on the market in late-October!

All kidding aside... I think you may be on to something here. I'd honestly be surprised if the Rams kept their first rounders in 2024 and 2025.

The draft is a crapshoot. Rams prefer to trade away premium picks for PROVEN players. Ramsey, Stafford, and Miller, for example. And they tried to give up premium picks for CMC and Burns.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Before this year, no.

I wonder if we had a deal(s) collapse? It was a more aggressive trade market. Lots of teams active. Take Hunt for example… maybe we had an offer. They chose to walk away, and maybe last night’s win factored in?

The Rams really shook up things around the NFL.

 

[Merlin]

They're not firing the TE Coach. But they should bump him (Thomas Brown) back to HB Coach.

McVay was trying to put him in that head coach track by teaching him the pass game the way he learned it with that group. But the pieces he has all look like shit. There is no way I'd move him back, either. McVay might, so you could be right, but I'd fire his ass for the way this TE group looks. Accepting that is how you end up like Fisher.

 

[XXXIVwin]

That's the first stage of no-trade grief...

DENIAL

Gotta admit I'm still in Stage 1.

Still really shocked the Rams made zero trades.

I thought at the very least they'd trade a mid-round pick for some help at RB.

And no matter how we try to spin this... I gotta think this means McSnead believe our SB chances are better in 2023 than they are in 2022.

 

[rdlkgliders]

A lot of chatter here about almost every position group on Offense.
McV has to bare some of the responsibility for it.
As fans of this forum, we have been critical of almost every position group the OL, WRs, RBs & TE's and it can be argued that all of them have underperformed. I think we may not have quite the coaching talent we have been blessed with in seasons past.
Is it Liam, Brown, Sample, etc......? I don't think it is only injuries

 

[Merlin]

Haven't thought about this aspect until you brought it up. It was McVays call to move Thomas Brown to TEs and hire the young RBs coach out of CFB. How much of the blame with Akers goes to him? I still think our OL is the main culprit for our running woes but this is probably a factor.

Yes controlling the personalities is instrumental to the Rams approach. If you as a coach cannot handle a RB who has a ton to prove, and get his ass in gear and his head on right, what is your value. Not very much. Because you have stars coming in to this team all the time.

Jrry might be right about moving Brown back. Especially if they fire the RB coach during the season. I would imagine if that happens then McVay coaches the TEs. But either way there are a lot of disappointing performances this season and not just by the players.

 

[tklongball]

Sometimes the best move, is no move. Now, hopefully they get a little healthy and have a better 2nd half.

 

[AZRams]

This times 100

Yeah, but they weren't down to their 7th stringer at any key position.

 

[XXXIVwin]

But either way there are a lot of disappointing performances this season and not just by the players.

We all talk about how the Rams say "F them picks" and trade away draft capital.

But let's not forget how many great coaches we've lost, too.

Shane Waldron, Zac Taylor, Kevin O'Connell, Matt LaFleur, just to name a few, just on offense. All of these guys have had considerable success in their new jobs.

In recent years, Rams coaches have been known for making great halftime adjustments. Sure hasn't been the case in 2022.

 

[Turducken]

It wasn't worth mortgaging more big picks for an outside shot at becoming relevant this season. Next year might be the same sort of thing for us (where we have to stay very healthy just to be competitive).

If so, then it's looking like a partial rebuild in 2024. Having a first round pick in the top half of the draft will be valuable. Offloading AD's massive contract will help too. He's having a borderline all pro season, but not going to sniff DPOY. I expect he retires after next season.

The good news is that the niners have mortgaged even more of their future for their SB window (and they still have to pay Bosa). If they don't get a Lombardi by 2025, their window will close and their rebuild will be painful.

So yeah, I'll focus on the bright side (imagining Niner-fans still reminiscing about 1995 in 2025 kind of schadenfrude).

 

[Riverumbbq]

It wasn't worth mortgaging more big picks for an outside shot at becoming relevant this season. Next year might be the same sort of thing for us (where we have to stay very healthy just to be competitive).

If so, then it's looking like a partial rebuild in 2024. Having a first round pick in the top half of the draft will be valuable. Offloading AD's massive contract will help too. He's having a borderline all pro season, but not going to sniff DPOY. I expect he retires after next season.

I keep wondering whether Donald would prefer to end his career in Pittsburgh, ... after the 2023 season he could become tradeable. jmo.

 

[jrry32]

McVay was trying to put him in that head coach track by teaching him the pass game the way he learned it with that group. But the pieces he has all look like shit. There is no way I'd move him back, either. McVay might, so you could be right, but I'd fire his ass for the way this TE group looks. Accepting that is how you end up like Fisher.

He did a good job with the HBs in the past. I'd put him back where he's strong.

 

[Merlin]

He did a good job with the HBs in the past. I'd put him back where he's strong.

Has he though. Not so sure of that.

Someone was stumping in another thread about the need for a good run game coordinator. I think they were right.