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MMQB: 7/24/17 - Training Camp Edition

Rmfnlt
Prime Time said:
Sure, as long as it's not with the Rams. Scott Linehan, a massive failure at HC, also found his niche as OC of the Cowboys.

There's a long list of coordinators who failed as head coaches such as our own Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, etc. Nothing to be ashamed of. Do what you do best.
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Pretty sure the Rams would not be under consideration... either by the Rams or Spags. ;)

Of course, you're right... the list of Coordinators that had a shot but never made it as HC is long.

My theory has always been that the jump in responsibilities from Coordinator to HC is too much for a lot of guys.

One reason is that they have to keep an eye on all the facets of the team (offense, defense and special teams) while handling all the "administrative" duties (pressers, social engagements, etc.). I'd imagine it take exceptional organizational skills.

I remember Wade's pressers when he was the HC of the Cowgirls... in the words of Berman... stumbling... bumbling... but as a DC? The results speak for themselves.

I always prefer a seasoned prior NFL HC with a proven record of success. Of course, they're hard to come by.

Which brings me to McVay... he is definitely polished and appears very well organized and the players seems to be reporting that he is very knowledgeable about all areas of the game.

Maybe he's one of those Coordinators that has the skill set to succeed at the next level.


Hope so!
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(Poll) If I were ____________, I'd be ticked about....

Ram65
Merlin said:
Route running has the potential to change that equation for him. That is my entire point, that trying to scheme him open has failed because teams simply focus or over/under him in coverage even if the play is designed to go to him.

The way forward is that he's just another wideout who runs good routes and gets enormous separation with those routes and his natural speed. The reason his speed hasn't played is because he rounds off routes, is a poor route technician, and DBs read him. Change that equation and you change everything. That, IMO, is where McVay is going with him, and if he doesn't improve he's gone next year.
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I was surprised when one analyst (last year or year before) said that Austin surprisingly was running good routes. I don't know because I don't see the 22 film and they don't show him isolated on TV. The smoke screens and short passes have been too predictable and forced as you say. I think McVay will use him in those bunch formations trying get him isolated. The way McVay and his staff like to teach technique may help improve the route running. Sending him deep will help too. For whatever reason I don't think he was sent deep enough in past. Better routes, execution, some scheming and sending him deep could really open things up for Tavon.
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Ezekiel Elliott, LeGarrette Blount and the 300-carry concern

DaveFan'51
CGI_Ram said:
http://www.espn.com/blog/philadelph...t-legarrette-blount-and-the-300-carry-concern

Ezekiel Elliott, LeGarrette Blount and the 300-carry concern

Unless you're Beast Mode, the 300-carry hangover is mighty hard to avoid.

Perhaps that's one reason 300-carry backs are becoming more scarce. According to ESPN Stats & Information, an average of 8.5 players per season reached that marker between 2001-10. That number has dropped to an average of two a season in the six years since, as many teams have moved to more of a running-back-by-committee approach.

In 2016, only one running back -- the Dallas Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott (322) -- carried that kind of load, while new Philadelphia Eagles running back LeGarrette Blount finished one attempt shy with 299 last season for the New England Patriots. He can be considered an honorary member of the club, with the Tennessee Titans' DeMarco Murray (293) and the Arizona Cardinals' David Johnson (293) not far behind.

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The odds are strongly on the side of a statistical drop-off in the year after a 300-plus carry campaign. In many cases, it is drastic. Consider: In the past five years, only one player -- Marshawn Lynch -- did not experience a decline in production. The other nine over that span saw their output sink by an averageof 739 rushing yards the next season. Four missed significant time with injury, but even those who stayed healthy had a sharp downturn.

Elliott has youth and a top-shelf offensive line on his side to combat the trend. At 21 years old, the odometer reading is still relatively low even if he did carry the ball a total of 559 times over his last two seasons at Ohio State. A bigger question might be whether he'll be available for all 16 games as the league continues to look into his off-field behavior.

Blount, on the flip side, is 30 years old and entering his eighth NFL season. Establishing himself as the workhorse back during Tom Brady's four-game suspension to start last season, he finished with a career high in carries, yards (1,161) and rushing touchdowns (18).

"Just the number of opportunities," Blount said, explaining why he experienced such a spike in production. "Obviously, Tom missing four games played a part in the opportunities that I had. Just taking advantage of all of them."

The Eagles signed him to a one-year, $1.25 million contract in free agency with the hopes that he can be a workhorse back for them.

It's possible that Blount, like Elliott, delivers. But the evidence is hard to ignore: Of the 19 times a player has hit the 300-carry mark since 2010, a statistical dip was avoided twice the next season.
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Just to draw a little comparison, Marshall went over 320 carries his last year with Indy, and never did that again!
BUT! His next three years with the Rams He averaged 250+ carries for over 12oo yards per! and that's not counting averaging 80+ receptions each of those years too!!:D
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Rams sign QB Dan Orlovsky

Angry Ram
CGI_Ram said:
https://ramblinfan.com/2017/07/22/w...n-kaepernick-robert-griffin-iii-dan-orlovsky/

Rams should have considered Colin Kaepernick or Robert Griffin III over Dan Orlovsky

When the Los Angeles Rams made the decision back in May to release Aaron Murray, all signs pointed to the team sticking with just two quarterbacks in Jared Goff and Sean Mannion heading into training camp, that is until Thursday. For now, it looks like the Rams are going to play it safe after agreeing to a one-year deal with Dan Orlovsky, but when looking at some of the other options available at quarterback, it’s hard not to wonder exactly what the team was thinking.

After spending the last three seasons as a backup to Matthew Stafford for the Detroit Lions, Los Angeles will be Orlovsky’s fifth team since joining the league in 2005. And while a quarterback who will be 34 when regular season officially gets underway would seem to be a safe bet from an experience perspective, that’s anything but the case for Orlovsky.

Not only has Orlovsky managed to just start 12 games in the 27 games he’s appeared in over the years, but he only has two career wins, both of which came in 2011 when he was a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously, the chances of Orlovsky earning any playing time in 2017 seems like a long shot since something serious would have to happen to Goff or Mannion, but just the thought of the Rams possibly having to settle for the veteran as the starter seems like a complete disaster.

While it’s understandable for Los Angeles interested in bringing on a third-string quarterback for a shot during training camp, there were plenty of better options for them to consider over Orlovsky, with Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin IIIimmediately coming to mind. Settling for the No. 3 quarterback job may not sound exciting for two former starters in Kaepernick or Griffin, but for players with limited options heading into training camp, at least either one of them seem like way better options who could even give Mannion some competition to be the backup.
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Eric Dickerson on Jared last year...

Ramzheart
I'm just so excited for the start of the season, my only hope for now is that they're competitive on both sides of the ball and of course that we see "enough" from "Baby J " , as I like to call him, to quiet all of his critics!

I feel without a doubt the ball is still going to come out slower, right?
It did with "Aaron Rodgers" his first year and that was with him sitting behind Favre for how many years?!

I think it's going to be so critical to get off to a good start!

Go Rams!!!!
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PFF: Teaching Tape - Aaron Donald is the exception to the rule

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I wasn't as impressed with the first two clips from the article above with Donald "creating those tackles." The plays were actually made by the DE and LB setting the edge. This forces the RB to run between the tackles. Mr. Renner should know better and have used different examples if he wants to showcase Donald manhandling a double team.

However, it speaks volumes of Donald's motor to not give up on plays and eventually work his way out of the double team to get credited with the stop. Truly shows the dynamic motor and drive we have in Donald!
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The #Rams are expected to hire former #Broncos GM Brian Xanders to a senior personnel role, source s

ReddingRam
OldSchool said:
If he doesn't get an extension and walks at the end of the contract then yes. Right now he's under contract for this NFL season. It's unlikely he goes anywhere how many players/coaches/front office guys can you say are synonymous with a teams name.
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Elway also has some ownership stock in Denver. That makes him an unlikely candidate to move to another team as a GM, does it not?
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