Who do you take at 26?

[snackdaddy]

Need somebody to want to trade up in order to trade back

Actually if someone like Dart is still there when we pick I could see a team desperate for a franchise quarterback making a move to go after him. Giving us their 42nd and 73rd pick for it. Or maybe the Saints with their 40th and 71st pick. Other than something like that it might be hard to pick up an extra day 2 pick. If two teams are wanting that pick then we got a shot to make that kind of trade down. Not likely but that is the best scenario I can think of.

 

[TexasRam]

Newsflash:

No rookie picked at #26 is going to come in and immediately start at CB, WR or TE or Tackle for that matter.

Loveland won’t be there.
Barron won’t be there.
TMac won’t be there.

Your best hope is Revel, who’s coming off an ACL.

This is why I am advocating moving back. Get another pick so you can get your swing tackle and your CB.

 

[PhillyRam]

Actually if someone like Dart is still there when we pick I could see a team desperate for a franchise quarterback making a move to go after him. Giving us their 42nd and 73rd pick for it. Or maybe the Saints with their 40th and 71st pick. Other than something like that it might be hard to pick up an extra day 2 pick. If two teams are wanting that pick then we got a shot to make that kind of trade down. Not likely but that is the best scenario I can think of.

If he is there at 26, I would be shocked if we pass on him. Taking him at 26, with his upside, is a bargain considering probably being more desperate next year and having to trade up for a QB using multiple picks to do so.

Now maybe McVay doesn't think he is a fit, but to me he is what McVay has hinted that he wants... a more mobile QB who still has a big arm and he does have a swagger to him, similar to Stafford. I think they would jump at having him study under Stafford for a few years. I don't think you can over value how important that would be for a young QB and McVay knows that.

Having said all that, I would be shocked of he is there at 20 let alone 26.

 

[Londoner]

Depends where we get our injuries this year, o-line, WR, secondary, d-line, who knows or can foresee.

Absolutely.

You can never predict where your injuries are going to occur, so you have to work on the assumption that your starters are fit, which is why the top priority should be to strengthen where your starting players are weakest.

To me, the weakest starters are the cornerbacks, so you take the best CB available at 26 or trade back (if you can find a partner) and take one who has slipped in the second round.

 

[DzRams]

Emmanwori is 6’-3” 227 lbs. He’s bigger than Ramsey. He can cover Tight ends, he plays the run well. Hes a good tackler.

Sounds like a great player but he probably doesn't help much this year since I doubt he plays instead of Lake. Wouldn't be much different than drafting an OT early. Either selection would initially be depth.

 

[DzRams]

Newsflash:

No rookie picked at #26 is going to come in and immediately start at CB, WR or TE or Tackle for that matter.

Loveland won’t be there.
Barron won’t be there.
TMac won’t be there.

Your best hope is Revel, who’s coming off an ACL.

This is why I am advocating moving back. Get another pick so you can get your swing tackle and your CB.

I mostly agree unless that rookie is a LB and possibly a CB. Those two positions may start immediately.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Sounds like a great player but he probably doesn't help much this year since I doubt he plays instead of Lake. Wouldn't be much different than drafting an OT early. Either selection would initially be depth.

He could play the second linebacker role. A few of the linebackers that the Rams have reportedly spoken to, are on the light side for that position.

 

[TexasRam]

I mostly agree unless that rookie is a LB and possibly a CB. Those two positions may start immediately.

If the Rams move up and get a Barron or Johnson then maybe they beat out Williams or Spoon in camp or get the nod early in the season and play every down.

But at #26 it is more likely this player is not an every down player. Who would he bump? Lake? Spoon was excellent down the stretch last year and both him an Williams have a ton of experience. To get every down snaps we are talking an injury to a starter or the rookie majorly outplays someone very early on. As stated before, Revel has #1 potential but coming off an ACL. Morrison, Amos, Thomas all would be solid prospects as well but I would rather get them after a trade back.

If Jihaad Campbell falls then I can see him starting, but the most recent mock drafts that I have seen show him rising in the 15-20 range.

Again, I don't see any of these other LBers projected at #26 starting.

I think #26 is a weak spot to be in this year based on our needs and the projections.

But who knows, every year a few prospects fall.

 

[Londoner]

But at #26 it is more likely this player is not an every down player.

Is anyone an automatic "every down" player?

 

[TexasRam]

Is anyone an automatic "every down" player?

The lines get blurred when there are different packages etc.

But for example Verse averaged 66 snaps per game and Stafford 65.

Witherspoon 60 Lake 61 Willaims 59.

Rozeboom 57.

I would consider these everydown players loosely speaking.


Do you want to waste a first round picck on a player that gets 20-30 snaps per game?

 

[Londoner]

Do you want to waste a first round picck on a player that gets 20-30 snaps per game?

Nope.

Given that the Rams are currently in "all in" mode, I want to use a first-round pick on strengthening the starting line-up.

As I have said several times, in this thread and elsewhere, the weakest starters on our roster are the cornerbacks, so I would go for a CB at 26. I'd rather have a CB1 than an an IOL3 or a WR4.

Others may have different opinions.

 

[TexasRam]

Nope.

Given that the Rams are currently in "all in" mode, I want to use a first-round pick on strengthening the starting line-up.

As I have said several times, in this thread and elsewhere, the weakest starters on our roster are the cornerbacks, so I would go for a CB at 26. I'd rather have a CB1 than an an IOL3 or a WR4.

Others may have different opinions.

I see CB, Center and swing tackle as biggest needs.

There is a 10% chance every year that an Oline starting 5 will stay injury free. Not to mention Big Rob might lose a step this year.

So, if a top Tackle, or interior that can play center is available, I take them. I see Limmer and Shelton as backups.

I think Mcvay likes his centers, however.

I am also fine with a move back for a CB. Might as well pick up another pick since that next group of CB's should be available late first or early 2nd.

 

[jjab360]

Newsflash:

No rookie picked at #26 is going to come in and immediately start at CB, WR or TE or Tackle for that matter.

Loveland won’t be there.
Barron won’t be there.
TMac won’t be there.

Your best hope is Revel, who’s coming off an ACL.

This is why I am advocating moving back. Get another pick so you can get your swing tackle and your CB.

Not sure why you seem so confident stating your opinion as fact here. The past couple years we've drafted numerous prospects as low as the 3rd round and later come in as immediate starters and contributors and yet you're 100% confident we can't find another at the bottom of the 1st round this year? I disagree.

 

[TexasRam]

Not sure why you seem so confident stating your opinion as fact here. The past couple years we've drafted numerous prospects as low as the 3rd round and later come in as immediate starters and contributors and yet you're 100% confident we can't find another at the bottom of the 1st round this year? I disagree.

You added Contributors. I never said that. I said starters.

I specifically mentioned CB, WR and TE.

Sure I could be wrong but please tell me who is going to lose their starting job to a rookie?

1. Puka
2. Adams
3. Higbee
4. Witherspoon
5. Williams

If you have a big void due to injury or free agency departure then sure a rookie can come in and start.

Puka filled in with Kupp injured.
Punter/Kicker voids
Kinchens eventually got the nod when JJ and Curl got hurt.
Limmer took over when the Oline injuries piled up.
Avila, Young and Turner were filling voids.

Again, I am advocating moving back to get more depth picks and expect said CB, Tackle etc. to eventually get in the lineup when the eventual injury hits and possibly win the starting job as Limmer did.

But which rookie projected at #26 is going to come in and take over one of those 5 spots barring injury?

No WR is taking Puka or Adams job.
No TE is bumping Higbee (Loveland and Warren will be gone)
Witherspoon earned his spot due to a strong end of season and playoff performance.
Williams could possibly get beat out by a CB at #26 - Maybe. But he is a seasoned Pro with experience, so it won't be easy.

The difference in this Team to prior years is we are going into the draft with a complete filled out roster coming off a season where we were arguably the 2nd best team at the end of the year (once we got healthy) and we improved via Free Agency,

 

[So Ram]

You added Contributors. I never said that. I said starters.

I specifically mentioned CB, WR and TE.

Sure I could be wrong but please tell me who is going to lose their starting job to a rookie?

1. Puka
2. Adams
3. Higbee
4. Witherspoon
5. Williams

If you have a big void due to injury or free agency departure then sure a rookie can come in and start.

Puka filled in with Kupp injured.
Punter/Kicker voids
Kinchens eventually got the nod when JJ and Curl got hurt.
Limmer took over when the Oline injuries piled up.
Avila, Young and Turner were filling voids.

Again, I am advocating moving back to get more depth picks and expect said CB, Tackle etc. to eventually get in the lineup when the eventual injury hits and possibly win the starting job as Limmer did.

But which rookie projected at #26 is going to come in and take over one of those 5 spots barring injury?

No WR is taking Puka or Adams job.
No TE is bumping Higbee (Loveland and Warren will be gone)
Witherspoon earned his spot due to a strong end of season and playoff performance.
Williams could possibly get beat out by a CB at #26 - Maybe. But he is a seasoned Pro with experience, so it won't be easy.

The difference in this Team to prior years is we are going into the draft with a complete filled out roster coming off a season where we were arguably the 2nd best team at the end of the year (once we got healthy) and we improved via Free Agency,

Inside LBer ? Are you saying it’s a VOID ?? BTW - Turner wasn’t because of a void. Gaines ?? The Rams had a rotation.
though.He took that job and ran with it.

 

[TexasRam]

Inside LBer ? Are you saying it’s a VOID ?? BTW - Turner wasn’t because of a void. Gaines ?? The Rams had a rotation.
though.He took that job and ran with it.

Landman only signed for 1.1 million so it is a potential spot you can upgrade in the draft Yes.

Assuming there is a guy there you want to spend a first round pick on at #26.

That is the trick, do you reach at a position just to get a "Starter" or do you aim for a Best player approach?

Turner did replace the void left by Gaines. Young replaced Floyd who was released for salary cap reasons.

There have been several seasons where we went into the draft with huge voids that had to be filled by draft prospects who we expected to start immediately. Fortunately we nailed several of those picks. Well, not Me and So Ram. McSNEAD and Co.

 

[TheTackle]

Landman only signed for 1.1 million so it is a potential spot you can upgrade in the draft Yes.

Assuming there is a guy there you want to spend a first round pick on at #26.

That is the trick, do you reach at a position just to get a "Starter" or do you aim for a Best player approach?

Turner did replace the void left by Gaines. Young replaced Floyd who was released for salary cap reasons.

There have been several seasons where we went into the draft with huge voids that had to be filled by draft prospects who we expected to start immediately. Fortunately we nailed several of those picks. Well, not Me and So Ram. McSNEAD and Co.

I would be amazed if we took a LB at 26 unless Walker is somehow available

If we look at our pattern of drafting players with lots of experience who are also team leaders then he fits that profile along with Starks

Walker “got more votes” for team captain “than we have ever had”


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lwhifQUjaBg


Sadly I don’t see him getting past the 49ers where I can see if causing us problems for years

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You added Contributors. I never said that. I said starters.

I specifically mentioned CB, WR and TE.

Sure I could be wrong but please tell me who is going to lose their starting job to a rookie?

1. Puka
2. Adams
3. Higbee
4. Witherspoon
5. Williams

If you have a big void due to injury or free agency departure then sure a rookie can come in and start.

Puka filled in with Kupp injured.
Punter/Kicker voids
Kinchens eventually got the nod when JJ and Curl got hurt.
Limmer took over when the Oline injuries piled up.
Avila, Young and Turner were filling voids.

Again, I am advocating moving back to get more depth picks and expect said CB, Tackle etc. to eventually get in the lineup when the eventual injury hits and possibly win the starting job as Limmer did.

But which rookie projected at #26 is going to come in and take over one of those 5 spots barring injury?

No WR is taking Puka or Adams job.
No TE is bumping Higbee (Loveland and Warren will be gone)
Witherspoon earned his spot due to a strong end of season and playoff performance.
Williams could possibly get beat out by a CB at #26 - Maybe. But he is a seasoned Pro with experience, so it won't be easy.

The difference in this Team to prior years is we are going into the draft with a complete filled out roster coming off a season where we were arguably the 2nd best team at the end of the year (once we got healthy) and we improved via Free Agency,

Emmanwori could start at LBer I bet.

 

[So Ram]

Landman only signed for 1.1 million so it is a potential spot you can upgrade in the draft Yes.

Assuming there is a guy there you want to spend a first round pick on at #26.

That is the trick, do you reach at a position just to get a "Starter" or do you aim for a Best player approach?

Turner did replace the void left by Gaines. Young replaced Floyd who was released for salary cap reasons.

There have been several seasons where we went into the draft with huge voids that had to be filled by draft prospects who we expected to start immediately. Fortunately we nailed several of those picks. Well, not Me and So Ram. McSNEAD and Co.

Jaylen McCollough - He was basically starting as a UDRFA.It just
wasn’t in base defense.He saved The Rams hide for a couple of games before Kinchens.

I think a lot of Rams Fans are writing off Cobie Durant as a starting CB as well.His play against Detroit late in that opener to win the game would’ve been AMAZING!! He got up SO high for an INT. When he came down though he came down hard,the ball came out & got hurt.He almost held on,but his fall ??? On hard turf as well.

Usually it takes 4 games for a rookie Rams starter. Not going to disput you.Lampkin,Woods ,& Wallace all found the Grass though.No one ever talks about there impact.
-The Rams haven’t had a 1st rd pick under Mcvay.Yes Everett they traded back for in 2017 & came up with 2 starters.

 

[PhillyRam]

Nope.

Given that the Rams are currently in "all in" mode, I want to use a first-round pick on strengthening the starting line-up.

As I have said several times, in this thread and elsewhere, the weakest starters on our roster are the cornerbacks, so I would go for a CB at 26. I'd rather have a CB1 than an an IOL3 or a WR4.

Others may have different opinions.

I think "All In" for this team means to be all in on setting up this young roster to be in a SB window for as long as possible. This roster is much different than the 21' team. It's younger, cheaper, and will be able to contend for a title much longer than that 21' team could. And the one missing piece for a SB window staying open longer is getting a young QB. So a QB is a very real possibility if one is there that they like.