Which QB should the Rams draft next year and where?

[Ram_Rally]

There that's better.

Thanks for that lol I'm wondering if they last that long. People go QB crazy in the draft.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Beck and Nussmeier aren't toolsy. And I want no part of Allar before the latter part of Day 3. I want no part of Beck period. If Nussmeier were to drop to the 4th round, I might think about it.

I should clarify what I mean by toolsy. I think Beck, Nuss, and Allar have enough strength and size to make every throw and come with some reasonable athleticism. You're probably right about their grades, but I think people might take shots on them by the 3rd or 4th. But I thought that about Quinn Ewers too, so I could be overvaluing QBs.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Beck is absolutely undraftable with his shitty attitude. He's thrown everyone under the bus except himself, and he doesn't have Aaron Rodgers talent to justify it.

I haven't heard about his attitude yet. I know he's not well regarded among UGA fans. I think he's gonna throw at the combine and someone will inevitably see him as unmolded clay.

 

[OldSchool]

Thanks for that lol I'm wondering if they last that long. People go QB crazy in the draft.

Oh they very easily could all be over drafted. I just don't think that group has anything special. Allar has an arm but doesn't know what to do with it really though I guess.

 

[PhillyRam]

He is without a doubt a good fit for our offense. WCO type with enough arm for McVay.

My only prob with him is he's been overvalued in draft projections, because I think one year of starting and that one year being hit and miss is a concern. Also he's a bit on the small side. And it's not like his arm is strong enough to elevate him to that range either. He's got a good arm, and I'd like to have him on our depth chart, but I don't like the idea of taking him high.

There's other QBs in this class that translate better when draft value is considered, to my eye at least. But all that aside I do trust McVay with QBs so if he falls in love with Simpson during the pre-draft process I'll get behind it.

QB is the one position where I would think you take the best guy period. You don't draft a lesser QB because he's a better value in the 5th rd vs taking a better QB in the first, even if overvalued.

 

[Memento]

I haven't heard about his attitude yet. I know he's not well regarded among UGA fans. I think he's gonna throw at the combine and someone will inevitably see him as unmolded clay.

He threw his offensive line under the bus at Miami as well after the Louisville game, and he refused to shake hands with any Indiana player after Miami lost and when Mendoza was looking for him.

I wouldn't touch him with a pole the length of a football stadium. His attitude sucks, it's sucked since Georgia, and he doesn't have the talent or production to justify it.

 

[DzRams]

Interesting breakdown of Simpson. Not sure if it has been posted anywhere. If not, have a look.

Starting to really like the idea of drafting him to learn behind Stafford, even if they reach for him. Definitely looks like a good fit for the offense.


View: https://youtu.be/l8TdBOfwy2E?si=AGVtkRGh_aFSJt0s

I've been on his bandwagon for a while. I'd be fine if we took him in the 1st.

 

[DzRams]

QB is the one position where I would think you take the best guy period. You don't draft a lesser QB because he's a better value in the 5th rd vs taking a better QB in the first, even if overvalued.

Right. The real question is, can this guy be developed into a starter vs being a QB2? If the answer is yes, take em. Mid 1st isn't too high.

 

[jrry32]

I should clarify what I mean by toolsy. I think Beck, Nuss, and Allar have enough strength and size to make every throw and come with some reasonable athleticism. You're probably right about their grades, but I think people might take shots on them by the 3rd or 4th. But I thought that about Quinn Ewers too, so I could be overvaluing QBs.

Neither Beck nor Nussmeier have much mobility. Beck's arm is underwhelming. Nussmeier's is average. If people take shots on them by the 3rd or 4th, good. It'll push another player down the board for us. Allar is toolsy, but he's not good at playing QB at this point. Don't know if that'll ever change. In the latter part of Day 3, I'd take a shot on him. If we're looking to draft a toolsy guy, I'd take my chances with Cole Payton over Beck and Allar.

 

[Merlin]

QB is the one position where I would think you take the best guy period. You don't draft a lesser QB because he's a better value in the 5th rd vs taking a better QB in the first, even if overvalued.

If they're gonna reach for a QB, then reach for a 4th rounder. Don't reach for the position in the 1st round.

 

[PhillyRam]

If they're gonna reach for a QB, then reach for a 4th rounder. Don't reach for the position in the 1st round.

Again, I just say I would want the best QB period. I dont want a guy because he might be a better value in rd 5.

Many think Bo Nix was a 2nd rd QB, but went in the first. I think DJ recently made that comment on one of his shows during Senior Bowl week.

So I would rather have Nix in rd 1, than a Will Howard type as a good value in rd 6.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Again, I just say I would want the best QB period. I dont want a guy because he might be a better value in rd 5.

Many think Bo Nix was a 2nd rd QB, but went in the first. I think DJ recently made that comment on one of his shows during Senior Bowl week.

So I would rather have Nix in rd 1, than a Will Howard type as a good value in rd 6.

Exactly. Teams draft players. Not positions.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Neither Beck nor Nussmeier have much mobility. Beck's arm is underwhelming. Nussmeier's is average. If people take shots on them by the 3rd or 4th, good. It'll push another player down the board for us. Allar is toolsy, but he's not good at playing QB at this point. Don't know if that'll ever change. In the latter part of Day 3, I'd take a shot on him. If we're looking to draft a toolsy guy, I'd take my chances with Cole Payton over Beck and Allar.

I need to look into Payton. It's hard to believe this class ended up this bad after all the hype.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Oh they very easily could all be over drafted. I just don't think that group has anything special. Allar has an arm but doesn't know what to do with it really though I guess.

Yeah it very quickly went from "another deep QB draft" to a draft that's no one wants to touch.

 

[Spider2YB]

Neither Beck nor Nussmeier have much mobility. Beck's arm is underwhelming. Nussmeier's is average. If people take shots on them by the 3rd or 4th, good. It'll push another player down the board for us. Allar is toolsy, but he's not good at playing QB at this point. Don't know if that'll ever change. In the latter part of Day 3, I'd take a shot on him. If we're looking to draft a toolsy guy, I'd take my chances with Cole Payton over Beck and Allar.

Physical tools aside, I can’t stand Beck’s body language. I don’t think he’s a good leader. He sulks when things don’t go his way. Before the last drive of the national championship game, teammates were coming over to him trying to fire him up. It’s supposed to be the other way around.

Also I think he peaked in 2023 at Georgia when he was able to throw to Brock Bowers and Ladd McConkey. 2024 UGA and 2025 Miami he was pretty underwhelming.

 

[Ram_Rally]

He threw his offensive line under the bus at Miami as well after the Louisville game, and he refused to shake hands with any Indiana player after Miami lost and when Mendoza was looking for him.

I wouldn't touch him with a pole the length of a football stadium. His attitude sucks, it's sucked since Georgia, and he doesn't have the talent or production to justify it.

Sheesh. He's gonna be grilled for that in interviews I bet.

 

[dieterbrock]

If they're gonna reach for a QB, then reach for a 4th rounder. Don't reach for the position in the 1st round.

If he is the guy they want, he's not a reach
His value is what the Rams have on him, not what the "experts" say

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah it very quickly went from "another deep QB draft" to a draft that's no one wants to touch.

Well that remains to be seen.
Last year looked like a 1 horse race with Cam Ward, and yet 3 legit QB starters came out of that draft with Ward, Dart and Shough all showing up and out

 

[den-the-coach]

If we're looking to draft a toolsy guy, I'd take my chances with Cole Payton over Beck and Allar.

This^...A lefty Stafford with legs.

 

[Merlin]

Again, I just say I would want the best QB period. I dont want a guy because he might be a better value in rd 5.

Many think Bo Nix was a 2nd rd QB, but went in the first. I think DJ recently made that comment on one of his shows during Senior Bowl week.

So I would rather have Nix in rd 1, than a Will Howard type as a good value in rd 6.

This shit is not black and white. It isn't that simple.

Simpson is better in some ways. Payton better in others. There is projection and guesswork. So looking at media draft boards like gospel can be misleading.

Last season media boards had Dart as a midround value which was wrong. Shough was old above and beyond everything else and disregarded but he had size, a good arm, and strong film.

This season is even harder because the guys being talked up are not even ideal height. Simpson is no lock. Nuss isn't a high pedigree either. Both have intriguing aspects. Both may hit. But if the Rams take Klubnik over one of them I don't think it would be a crazy stretch. As he has similar flaws and different strengths.

Or Payton same deal. This group is muddy as fuck. There are no clear answers after Mendoza who is a slam dunk.