Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

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Woof... Simpson is NOT a first round QB. Not in traits and not in performance.
Doesn't mean he won't turn out to be an NFL QB... I just don't see a particularly physically gifted player... and in his biggest game of the year? He was terrible.
 
The NFL has a QB Tax. That means drafted 1-4 rounds earlier than true prospect ranking (& overpaid too).

I expect Simpson to go in first round somewhere 10-32. Especially if he truly measures at 6’2
 
den-the-coach said:
You don't need a running QB, you need a QB that can extend plays, when a play is shut down. Purdy can do that and to some degree, so can Darnold for example. 3rd and 6, nothing is there, the QB takes off and gets just enough for the first down.

That is what the Rams are looking for, Stafford does not have the ability to do that and IMO, the successor will. Mendoza for example can do that, obviously Moore can too. The goal is to find a QB that has that ability, pass first, but extend the play, when nothing is there and those QB's were always in vogue. Staubach, Bradshaw, Montana, Favre, Rodgers (younger), Elway (older) and even a younger Tom Brady, in fact, that is why they liked him over Bledsoe.
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Mobility to extend the play is nice but I don't think it's a need at QB. In fact way I see it the need is to be able to win from the pocket. If you can extend the play, but cannot win from the pocket, then you will, in the playoffs where defenses tend to rise up and make more of a factor, be contained at some point by them and your team will go home.

If you were to compare winning from the pocket alone with extending the play alone, winning from the pocket would be the desired trait because it can be leaned upon over and over in the clutch. Just a matter of your protections. Within that pocket all the rules are in your favor as a QB, you just require the ballsack to stand in there with that chaos and deal.

Fans overvalue escapability IMO. It's the effect of the highlight reels going viral and fantasy football fans.

OldSchool said:
I bet Bama encouraged him in this. I think they have a 5 star recruit from last year who was talking about hitting the portal.

What are you thinking a late first for Simpson or could he still be a top 10?
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They told him he was done there (as the starter). I am certain about that. In that game the backup, who was a 6'6" kid who could move well, had more positive effect in less than half the game than Simpson had.

So his choice was probably hit the portal or declare. As to which would have been better, who knows, however I will say at least with him he's going to have a chance to end up with a good and established team and offense since he won't be going at the top of the order. Which means maybe the Rams grab him round 3ish.

Of course I also think he has the look of a Shanahan QB.
 
Ram Ts said:
I expect Simpson to go in first round somewhere 10-32. Especially if he truly measures at 6’2
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I was thinking that way earlier this year when his film was full of him layering that ball all over the joint. That maybe he was a guy who got ignored on that bench. But he came up short in the big games and now he's a guy with short sample size and window of film to analyze, which normally don't translate well to the NFL.

So yeah it's going to be interesting to see how he measures in, how he performs in the Senior Bowl week, and of course that workout where front offices will decide how much arm he's got.
 
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So the QBs the Rams are choosing from, if they elect to take a QB next draft, includes what will probably be a list of 6'1" types. Simpson, Nussmeier, Klubnik, Mateer, etc. Again of the entire lot of these shorter options I prefer Mateer but there's no telling whether one of them is going to connect with McVay on the whiteboard interview where the staff grills them.

Senior Bowl should be interesting though eh?
 
Merlin said:
So the QBs the Rams are choosing from, if they elect to take a QB next draft, includes what will probably be a list of 6'1" types. Simpson, Nussmeier, Klubnik, Mateer, etc. Again of the entire lot of these shorter options I prefer Mateer but there's no telling whether one of them is going to connect with McVay on the whiteboard interview where the staff grills them.

Senior Bowl should be interesting though eh?
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Im pretty sure Mateer is staying in school 1 more season
 
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Merlin said:
So the QBs the Rams are choosing from, if they elect to take a QB next draft, includes what will probably be a list of 6'1" types. Simpson, Nussmeier, Klubnik, Mateer, etc. Again of the entire lot of these shorter options I prefer Mateer but there's no telling whether one of them is going to connect with McVay on the whiteboard interview where the staff grills them.

Senior Bowl should be interesting though eh?
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Mateer might come back to Oklahoma; his backup entered the transfer portal, which normally points to either the starter coming back or a transfer coming in. He hasn't decided one way or the other, though.
 
dieterbrock said:
Who would classify strictly as a "running qb" these days?
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Jalen Hurts 129 rushing attempt per season....there are good #2 RBs who don't have that many carries.....24.6% run; 75.4% pass
Jayden Daniels 206 career rush attempts; 668 pass attempts; 23.6% run; 76.4% pass
Lamar Jackson, 135 attempts per season...Career 2888 pass attempts / 1081 rush attempts.........27.2% run; 72.8% pass

Any QB who runs 1/4 of the time, to me, is a running QB. They're runners who can pass.

I don't consider guys like Mahomes (9.6%; 90.4%), Allen (17.6%; 82.4%) and Nix (12.9%; 87.1%) running quarterbacks. They're passers who can run.

JMHO.
 
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Merlin said:
So the QBs the Rams are choosing from, if they elect to take a QB next draft, includes what will probably be a list of 6'1" types. Simpson, Nussmeier, Klubnik, Mateer, etc. Again of the entire lot of these shorter options I prefer Mateer but there's no telling whether one of them is going to connect with McVay on the whiteboard interview where the staff grills them.

Senior Bowl should be interesting though eh?
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If thats the case, do not draft one.
I do not want Staffords successor to some small hand mid guy.
Make a trade for a first in 27 or 28.
I would be fine with 3 more years of Stafford.
 
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gogoat1 said:
If thats the case, do not draft one.
I do not want Staffords successor to some small hand mid guy.
Make a trade for a first in 27 or 28.
I would be fine with 3 more years of Stafford.
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Yeah I'm fine with a trade for a castoff type. I'd like to see them go get Levis in fact who has more talent and tools than any of them. But also I'm fine with them drafting any of those QBs who disappointed, provided they jive with McVay.

I think keeping McVay excited and interested in the future is a key element here.
 
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Merlin said:
Yeah I'm fine with a trade for a castoff type. I'd like to see them go get Levis in fact who has more talent and tools than any of them. But also I'm fine with them drafting any of those QBs who disappointed, provided they jive with McVay.

I think keeping McVay excited and interested in the future is a key element here.
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Yuo, what I want is for McVay to get his guy (none of these) and be attached at the hip of him for 10-15 years.
He must jive with McVay and in watching McVays miked up video I noticed him tell players 2-3 times that he loved them.
The guy is invested for sure. A 6' 3" 220lb kid with a rocket of a a right arm will keep him that way IMO.
We are living through the Golden Age of being a Rams fan.
 
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gogoat1 said:
If thats the case, do not draft one.
I do not want Staffords successor to some small hand mid guy.
Make a trade for a first in 27 or 28.
I would be fine with 3 more years of Stafford.
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It really depends on the quarterback.

If Trinidad Chambliss (who is about 6'1" 210 lbs.) has his sixth-season eligibility rejected by the NCAA and is therefore forced to go into the draft, I'd really consider going after him with a first (maybe even #13), even though he's a smaller guy. Chambliss really reminds me of Baker Mayfield from a physical standpoint; he has a big arm, he's smart with the football, and he can buy you time in the pocket. I'd be very happy if he was the pick at #13, because I'd know McVay and Snead will have done a ton of homework on him.

Simpson just doesn't interest me anymore; his stock has dropped considerably because he has not looked good for the games that matter, he looks small, and his arm just isn't good enough. Accurate, but not a big armed guy. If I had to make a comparison, I'd say late-career Chad Pennington (after all of the arm injuries) at best, although maybe even smaller than Pennington was.

Mateer would be an option I wouldn't be too upset with if he came out and we drafted him in the second/third; he's got good physical traits (built thick, decent runner, a solid arm), but I think there's a very good chance he goes back to Oklahoma for another year to build his value or compete for the NCAA tournament.

But none of the other quarterbacks interest me in the slightest. Nussmeier, Klubnik, Allar, Robertson, all of them have massive flaws that I would not touch unless they were very late picks, and I wouldn't even take Carson Beck or Diego Pavia as undrafted free agents; their character concerns at quarterback are that glaring.
 
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