Vent Thread Rams at Bengals

[OntarioRam]

I am really curious to see how McVay performs as the year goes on. I thought he was excellent in weeks 1 and 2, making our team look better than it is. But tonight, he was awful. This was among the worst showings in his career. Nothing even made sense. The refusal to run the football when it was working vs. a middling run defence. The poor clock management. The refusal to help out your backup LT vs. an elite pass rusher (or, if you insist on leaving your LT on an island, at least shift over Noteboom).

This season is a real test for McVay, IMO? Can he have this team perform better than its talent on paper? Time will tell. But I think he has to. Last year, our collapse was largely on his shoulders. The team never really seemed prepared and, of course, it came out after that McVay needed a "breather". If he does not produce a successful season soon, I think many players will tune him out as coasting on his rep.

 

[Soul Surfer]

This is the first time im outright calling for McVays job. i think hes a good coach but i think he has reached his peak in terms of growth and willingness to change. Tonight he showed that he will never believe in asserting the offense in the trenches. Hes always had the annoying habit of abandoning the run early but tonight was inexcusable. After the success of week 1 with Kyren, the fact the Bengals are bad defending the run, the fact that Matthew needs to stay upright as much as possible to maximize this year AND next...and he refuses to run the ball??

With every draft under McVay, I scream that we should get a serious physical back or a fullback.
You're never going to wear the defense down with a Kyren Williams or a Cam Akers or even a Henderson.

I agree that McVay does seem to abandon the running game, (earlier than any coach I've ever seen anyway).
And that did seem to be a problem tonight.

The Bengals defense look like he was getting stronger as the game went on instead of getting worn down from a running game.

 

[PARAM]

Vent?

This loss is on McVay. Clearly.

Having said that, I want to vent about all the Ram fans who said, we were gonna get blow out a lot this year. It's early, sure but these guys play their asses off.

The young defense played their asses off. Puka and Tutu played their asses off. And please, don't anyone try to blame this on VJ, though I'm sure someone will. Stafford made some bad throws but he's the prime example of a QB who thinks he can do anything. I'm okay with that because the good is so much better than the bad. And without that mindset, we wouldn't see the no look shit or absolute dimes. McVay needed to adjust and out these guys in a better position. This loss is soley on SM.

He'll make up for it.

 

[thirteen28]

Agree to an extent. Stafford has always had these kinds of games. He has a few a year. Even our Superbowl run had some ugly Stafford games. But Mcvay didn't put him in a good position this game.

This one was certainly not pretty, but I still put it on McVay and not Stafford. He could have helped his QB immensely by simply running the GD football tonight, we were getting 5.8 yards a pop. Make them respect the run. But instead he hung Stafford out to dry, with predictable results. It would be hard to argue that Stafford's game would have been what it was had McVay called more runs. It might have been meh, but it wouldn't have been shit. The fact that it was shit starts and stops with the playcaller and nobody else.

 

[Ellard80]

listen I think this was one of Mcvay's worse games of all time...

however basically everything is audibles and adjustments.. im sure there were plenty of times when the rams had a run called and then the Bengal's loaded the box.

Some of the lopsided run pass numbers everyone is always obsessed with after a loss is also what the QB calls.

The failure still rests on Mcvay though because whatever he was communicating or what they practiced as responses to the Bengals looks... were a hot mess all night.

 

[Ram_Rally]

This one was certainly not pretty, but I still put it on McVay and not Stafford. He could have helped his QB immensely by simply running the GD football tonight, we were getting 5.8 yards a pop. Make them respect the run. But instead he hung Stafford out to dry, with predictable results. It would be hard to argue that Stafford's game would have been what it was had McVay called more runs. It might have been meh, but it wouldn't have been shit. The fact that it was shit starts and stops with the playcaller and nobody else.

Left Stafford out to dry nut also his left tackle. Dude was getting whooped out there.

 

[Ram_Rally]

With every draft under McVay, I scream that we should get a serious physical back or a fullback.
You're never going to wear the defense down with a Kyren Williams or a Cam Akers or even a Henderson.

I agree that McVay does seem to abandon the running game, (earlier than any coach I've ever seen anyway).
And that did seem to be a problem tonight.

The Bengals defense look like he was getting stronger as the game went on instead of getting worn down from a running game.

I think Avila has made me see the light. I want more big nasty guys up front. I agree that we need a physical back but I want some damn road graders.

 

[TexasRam]

Mcvay had his issues tonight not running and also not moving Boom over to LT or getting a TE or RB over there when Thomas was getting manhandled.

But to Mcvays credit, if Stafford was even half way on tonight or the Oline didnt fall apart at 2 positions, then we probably get the win.

The Bengals DC was the biggest difference. He Got stafford hurried and looking like Dogshit. That's was a good DC looks like. Makes a difference in the outcome of a game and shuts a good offense down. Something even the Niners couldnt do with better talent.

 

[Spider2YB]

Upcoming pass rushes we face: Dallas, Philly, Pittsburgh. McVay has to figure it out.

 

[Karate61]

We should have grabbed Asshole Face when we had the chance!

 

[Londoner]

McVay has to figure it out.

Or build a time machine and get peak Orlando Pace back.

 

[Ellard80]

Mcvay had his issues tonight not running and also not moving Boom over to LT or getting a TE or RB over there when Thomas was getting manhandled.

But to Mcvays credit, if Stafford was even half way on tonight or the Oline didnt fall apart at 2 positions, then we probably get the win.

The Bengals DC was the biggest difference. He Got stafford hurried and looking like Dogshit. That's was a good DC looks like. Makes a difference in the outcome of a game and shuts a good offense down. Something even the Niners couldnt do with better talent.

yeah if you listen to Mcvay's presser... he says the Bengal's didn't do anything they didnt expect but that they failed to execute... the truth is probably somewhere in between.

 

[thirteen28]

Left Stafford out to dry nut also his left tackle. Dude was getting whooped out there.

Yeah, it never seemed to occur to McVay to get some help over on that side. Just WTF man??

 

[Ellard80]

Yeah, it never seemed to occur to McVay to get some help over on that side. Just WTF man??

yeah he said in his presser that thomas looked good in practice in those situations...

i guess he missed what was happening the game...

 

[Merlin]

If Goff played like Stafford tonight McVay would be roasting his balls over the fire

Stafford was bad. He was shitting his pants after that first sack and his nerves carried over to the offense. Also don't think for a minute McVay isn't ready to pull the trigger on a QB early in the draft if one he likes is available. He is always ready to upgrade any spot, the dude is ruthless.

For whatever reason I think the gameplan was to attack that Bengals secondary but he should have adjusted and he did not, so I think McVay is more to blame.

There is no reasonable argument to repeatedly fall behind the chains throwing when our starting LT was out, when the QB was unsettled, and when the Bengals suck ass stopping the run.

Also the refs can get fucked. That shit was so one sided it was disgusting, but the above allowed them to pull it off.

Anyway I'm over this and moving on. McVay is gonna be more pissed than us when he reviews this one.

 

[thirteen28]

yeah if you listen to Mcvay's presser... he says the Bengal's didn't do anything they didnt expect but that they failed to execute... the truth is probably somewhere in between.

McVay is the one that failed. Saying that the players failed to execute is a cop-out.

 

[TXRams86]

I'm almost convinced McVay threw this game. I don't mean to go all conspiracy theorist but that had to be an all-time play calling blunder. He had our team playing divisional foes hard but now against an AFC team with a hobbled QB and terrible run defense we can't score a TD until garbage time? The refs also doing their best to screw us. I'm starting to believe that McVay is ok with losing some games this season in favor of a better draft position but still wants to compete within our division. There's no other explanation for what we saw tonight, even before our o line went to shit.

 

[Ellard80]

McVay is the one that failed. Saying that the players failed to execute is a cop-out.

lol... im just going to keep giving you chances to cry about mcvay

hopefully it will make you feel better.

yeah you are right none of this is on the players /roll eyes

 

[swmizzou83]

I do wonder how many pass plays were called vs how many Stafford audibled to. It's entirely possible that Stafford was just off tonight and was making the improper audibles.

 

[thirteen28]

McVay is gonna be more pissed than us when he reviews this one.

I hope he's pissed at himself when he looks at the stat sheet and sees 5.8 yards per carry and then looks that the lopsided pass-to-run ratio. That is all on him.