Trade Deadline Rumors and Trades

[OntarioRam]

Cooks is definitely worth a 2nd. Just not for the Rams. For the Packers that would be a perfect price and fit. They need a WR in the worst way, it is by far their biggest hole, and Rodgers seems only to be willing to throw to veteran WRs. But the Rams have bigger needs than WR, and limited capital to acquire players with.

 

[MachS]

I applaud this FO for being aggressive. Even more so, realizing when they make a mistake or something isn’t working and they don’t stay with it due to being stubborn- they can move off their mistakes. That’s a huge positive. Both of those points.

But the problem is they continue to make the initial mistakes. Like it’s cool they addressed the QB problem and got Stafford. But the problem was why did they pay goff that huge extension just 1.5 years before? Why sign Austin to that big contract? Why the rush to extend Gurley? Why restructure woods and then dump his contract and sign a different high price WR that’s not (so far) fitting? Why draft tutu if he’s not a fit and who won’t play him when you could have drafted an Ol or edge and solved that problem?

Again, the FO is great. We won a SB. Scoreboard forever. But they sure have a habit of digging a hole and jumping in it - before fixing the problem (and paying a lot to do so). How about the avoid the initial error instead of waiting to react.

They've made a lot of mistakes no doubt, but they've been aggressive mistakes which I'll always take over passive, indifferent franchises. We've also been quick to fix those errors once they've been made which I respect. But there is a fine line between aggressive and reckless and I'd say we're very close to straddling that line. This is a year where IMO the FO should show maturity and not become huge buyers in a year where we're not going to be competing for a SB. Or if we do make a trade, have a long-term deal already negotiated and in place, so we're not risking a 1yr rental. That is what I'd like to see. But by no means is this FO absolved from ridicule because they have made some big mistakes the last few years, however we did get a SB out of it so how upset can we really be.

 

[PhillyRam]

Any move has to be more for 2023 and beyond. Like the Ramsey trade. No quick fixes.

You don't give up what is now likely to be a mid or maybe even an early 2nd for an older injury prone Cooks.

The only guy I would trade for with significant draft capital would be Burns since he is 24 yrs old and could be the focus of the pass rush past 2024 when Donald is gone or declining.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1587165275891318789?s=20&t=_locK6wdtMEVSfJesN4llw

That really makes them tougher

 

[dieterbrock]

Any move has to be more for 2023 and beyond. Like the Ramsey trade. No quick fixes.

You don't give up what is now likely to be a mid or maybe even an early 2nd for an older injury prone Cooks.

Is he injury prone though? Yes, he flamed out in 2019 after getting his bell rung a couple times, but outside of that the dude played a full season.
Not advocating for him for the Rams, unless he re-structured that 18+ mill in to something a shit ton less (guarantee wise) which he surely wont do. No matter what is being said in the media

 

[Merlin]

With all due respect guy he's had 1k every year except 2. Imo that's not a JAG.

Fair enough. He won't move the needle though. For us he should not be a target, and he will be a waste of a pick if McVay gets what he wants in this situation.

 

[PhillyRam]

Is he injury prone though? Yes, he flamed out in 2019 after getting his bell rung a couple times, but outside of that the dude played a full season.
Not advocating for him for the Rams, unless he re-structured that 18+ mill in to something a shit ton less (guarantee wise) which he surely wont do. No matter what is being said in the media

And a perfect fit to battle those physical Niner teams. Lol!!

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Exactly I would tell the Texans good luck with that

I would tell them to go fuck themselves

 

[Allen2McVay]

I would tell them to go fuck themselves

OK, so you're NOT in the Public or Human Relations departments.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Hopefully all is revealed soon but the only thing I'm thinking of with wanting cooks is since we have to get the ball out quickly and while ARob coming on it's not conducive to this offense to not get separation rt now and I realize thats not his game but how we are set up maybe quick slants and then chunks with cooks to get the ball out fast then have a fast dude get chunk of yardage. I'm possibly over thinking but otherwise it makes no sense.

ARob played well 1st half then went back to coop show offense was that because the niners took him away or Mcvay went away from it?????

Confused

It doesn’t instill confidence in Tutu, that’s for certain. McVay apparently has trust issues with him. If they weren’t going to use him, then that pick could have gone towards shoring up a glaring weakness that I think every Rams fan on the planet could see coming. Humphrey could have helped in the interior. Shame. Ditto for Harris who was a huge gamble for a fourth round pick.
I rue that draft as the beginning of the end, similar to the Mike Martz bad drafting days.

Cooks just feels like going backwards and it seems that any time McVay needs to find a solution his answer is to throw more receivers at the problem. Weird.

 

[payote75]

It doesn’t instill confidence in Tutu, that’s for certain. McVay apparently has trust issues with him. If they weren’t going to use him the pick could have gone towards shoring up a glaring weakness that I think every Rams fan on the planet could see coming. Humphrey could have helped in the interior. Shame. Ditto for Harris who was a huge gamble for a fourth round pick.
I rue that draft as the beginning of the end, similar to the Mike Martz bad drafting days.

Cooks just feels like going backwards and it seems that any time McVay needs to find a solution his answer is to throw more receivers at the problem. Weird.

Has to be reasons why tutu can't be used in a jet sweep? Or anything in anyway?
Same with Jefferson what was the point?

I think for tutu they wanted to get him through healthy
Maybe same for van but just seemed odd everything about it was odd. Unless you wanted to keep them from hurting themselves.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

OK, so you're NOT in the Public or Human Relations departments.

Fuck yeah I am hahahaha

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Has to be reasons why tutu can't be used in a jet sweep? Or anything in anyway?
Same with Jefferson what was the point?

I think for tutu they wanted to get him through healthy
Maybe same for van but just seemed odd everything about it was odd. Unless you wanted to keep them from hurting themselves.

If they are desperate enough to try to get Cooks back, then why not be desperate enough to give Tutu a legitimate shot and use him on several plays versus the Panthers and Niners?

 

[Flatlyner]

Exactly. Did Tutu get A SNAP yesterday? I cannot fathom the thought process to not throw him out there a hand full of times a game and have him run a deep pattern. He is faster then the man guarding him period. If no safety help, air it out. If safety help, it opens up other options. Maddening to have him on roster and not use him at all....

 

[payote75]

If they are desperate enough to try to get Cooks back, then why not be desperate enough to give Tutu a legitimate shot and use him on several plays versus the Panthers and Niners?

Just not sure that's why I'm suspicious wasn't used for injury sake. He was used against the cowboys.

 

[Da-Rock]

Tutu doing jetsweeps only, goes against McVay's entire offensive scheme of plays mimicing each other and players blocking, sweeping or going out for a pass on the same play design.

Tutu can only do one apparently.

 

[payote75]

We used to do one to many jets sweeps back in the day with Mcvay now we see the chiefs destroy the whiners with jets sweeps and we just pretend like it didn't happen.
Is it an arrogance thing like we going to win my way? I'm honestly lost.

I know we are not the chiefs but we had 2 weeks they were key players and we didn't mimic the chiefs hardly at all if any. Just crazy.

 

[Da-Rock]

McVay is nortorious for being locked in on doing it his way. In the Super Bowl against the Patriots the entire Patriots team said that the Rams didn't have a single new play or design in and that they didn't see any adjustments to what they were doing.

Against the Bengals after losing OBJ, McVay didn't adjust his scheme, he just put other players in the same scheme as with OBJ....we won, but it was due more to the defense than the offense.

 

[jacktheripper85]

McVay is nortorious for being locked in on doing it his way. In the Super Bowl against the Patriots the entire Patriots team said that the Rams didn't have a single new play or design in and that they didn't see any adjustments to what they were doing.

Against the Bengals after losing OBJ, McVay didn't adjust his scheme, he just put other players in the same scheme as with OBJ....we won, but it was due more to the defense than the offense.

Yeah, seems like outside of Donald, Stafford and Kupp our HC has some real trust issues. Not many opportunities for other players and pretty much nothing off script.

As for X’s and O’s nothing materialized with getting Goff to the next level, we all waited to see what he would do with DeSean Jackson and that fizzled, TuTu? See DeSean. Alan Robinson-WTF! TE’s-horror show. OL-ditto. RBs?…seems like he hates all of them. I mean…I’m ecstatic we won a Super Bowl but our HC seems like he’s stuck in neutral.

I think no one compares to McVay when it comes to motivational skills but that shit only lasts so long. Sooner or later you’ve got to put a winning game plan together and not just rely on your star players. Love McVay, but for having the moniker of offensive genius I don’t see it. Seems like ever since he traded Goff he’s relied on 4 or 5 superstars to carry the team and not much creativity outside of the skills Stafford demonstrates on his own.

 

[Steve808]

Isn't today the trade deadline?

Are the Rams just going to save our draft capital and hope our guys heal up for a run at the playoffs? I couldn't find any Rams news that was significant.