Tight End class in draft

[OldSchool]

In the 6th round? Whilst I agree in having the long term deal is preferred, I also see where Mayer could be a day 1 starter/contributor where the late rounder likely doesnt even see any playing time in year 1

Why does it have to be a 6th rounder? Take one from pick 90 to 127 and use the 6th on another position of need. Like a sloppy NT an ilb or an iol

 

[dieterbrock]

Why does it have to be a 6th rounder? Take one from pick 90 to 127 and use the 6th on another position of need. Like a sloppy NT an ilb or an iol

Well first of all, I doubt the Raiders would give him up for a 6th rounder, but if that was the asking price its a no brainer. Rams have 4 6th round picks and the likelihood of them even making the roster is slim where Mayer has day 1-2 talent that just hasnt been achieved yet

 

[TheTackle]

Why does it have to be a 6th rounder? Take one from pick 90 to 127 and use the 6th on another position of need. Like a sloppy NT an ilb or an iol

Like Willie Lampkin and convert him to a battering ram of a full-back

 

[OldSchool]

Well first of all, I doubt the Raiders would give him up for a 6th rounder, but if that was the asking price its a no brainer. Rams have 4 6th round picks and the likelihood of them even making the roster is slim where Mayer has day 1-2 talent that just hasnt been achieved yet

So is this similar to when people want to give a qb a 2nd chance when he's done nothing? Sorry give me one of this very good class of TE and spend the 6th on depth. Makes no sense to trade a pick for 2 years of a TE that's done nothing.

 

[dieterbrock]

So is this similar to when people want to give a qb a 2nd chance when he's done nothing? Sorry give me one of this very good class of TE and spend the 6th on depth. Makes no sense to trade a pick for 2 years of a TE that's done nothing.

Ok, got it.
I'm sure the Rams will take this in to consideration. Lol

 

[OldSchool]

Ok, got it.
I'm sure the Rams will take this in to consideration. Lol

So no reply just a joke? Got it the trade for a TE isn't something to seriously consider.

 

[dieterbrock]

So no reply just a joke? Got it the trade for a TE isn't something to seriously consider.

What other reply is there? Its not up for discussion with you clearly so that is that.
I like the idea, you hate it and the Rams dont care what we think.

 

[DzRams]

So is this similar to when people want to give a qb a 2nd chance when he's done nothing? Sorry give me one of this very good class of TE and spend the 6th on depth. Makes no sense to trade a pick for 2 years of a TE that's done nothing.

Agreed. Once someone has been in the league for several years, I have a hard time believing the 'they have unfulfilled day 1-2 talent'. IMO, having done nothing in the league trumps that.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Agreed. Once someone has been in the league for several years, I have a hard time believing the 'they have unfulfilled day 1-2 talent'. IMO, having done nothing in the league trumps that.

One could argue that we just put more effort in trying to unlock more on Parkinson. If that's possible.

How Rams attack TE in the draft and what's available is gonna be really interesting. We only have three on the roster, right? Hig's in the last year of his contract. We truly could use help at Y and H/F/Move and yet there are fewer Y TE guys in the draft.

I could see Rams drafting a Y, a F guy, or even both in the draft!

Really intrigued about Mason eventually turning into a Y someday but also, what the ND kid, Evans, could be coming back from his injury there.

Goes without saying that I'd love Warren.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Who's been on the Oregon kid, starting to watch some of him, gonna try to catch a full game. Anyone got a rec of one?

Intriguing.

 

[DzRams]

One could argue that we just put more effort in trying to unlock more on Parkinson. If that's possible.

How Rams attack TE in the draft and what's available is gonna be really interesting. We only have three on the roster, right? Hig's in the last year of his contract. We truly could use help at Y and H/F/Move and yet there are fewer Y TE guys in the draft.

I could see Rams drafting a Y, a F guy, or even both in the draft!

Really intrigued about Mason eventually turning into a Y someday but also, what the ND kid, Evans, could be coming back from his injury there.

Goes without saying that I'd love Warren.

Higs and Parkinson are free agents next year so I do feel they will address the position in the draft. They should and could draft two.

I really only like Taylor for the combo type. He'd be a good Higbee replacement. Possibly Evans too just not super excited about him. Hawes would be a good in-line TE.

 

[dieterbrock]

Agreed. Once someone has been in the league for several years, I have a hard time believing the 'they have unfulfilled day 1-2 talent'. IMO, having done nothing in the league trumps that.

Mayer's 1st year was in line with other rookie TE production, last year was a washout. His rookie year was better than any of Higbee's first 3 seasons
Alas, I doubt he's even available. If Brady has anything to say about it I'm sure he'd love to 2 see a 2 TE system like he had

 

[Memphis Ram]

So is this similar to when people want to give a qb a 2nd chance when he's done nothing? Sorry give me one of this very good class of TE and spend the 6th on depth. Makes no sense to trade a pick for 2 years of a TE that's done nothing.

You give QBs a 2nd chance due to the importance of the position and willingness to search all possibilities to fill the position. Some have been placed in bad situations or circumstances via coaching changes, inept coaching, limited opportunities via a numbers game, not being ready early, etc..

Recent 2nd chance QBs like Geno Smith & Sam Darnold just got millions. One could even say that Super Bowl MVP and Hall of Famer Kurt Warner was on his second chance in the league after the Packers let him go.

If it's possible, it makes more sense to trade a 6th round pick for a kid that was highly rated coming out of college and caught up in a number game than it does to value a 6th round pick as if said player selected that late is guaranteed do something. The failure rate is extremely high for these lower rated players selected so late.

 

[OldSchool]

You give QBs a 2nd chance due to the importance of the position and willingness to search all possibilities to fill the position. Some have been placed in bad situations or circumstances via coaching changes, inept coaching, limited opportunities via a numbers game, not being ready early, etc..

Recent 2nd chance QBs like Geno Smith & Sam Darnold just got millions. One could even say that Super Bowl MVP and Hall of Famer Kurt Warner was on his second chance in the league after the Packers let him go.

If it's possible, it makes more sense to trade a 6th round pick for a kid that was highly rated coming out of college and caught up in a number game than it does to value a 6th round pick as if said player selected that late is guaranteed do something. The failure rate is extremely high for these lower rated players selected so late.

I'm all for what you're saying. But there were quite a few who couldn't understand why we'd want to bring in a guy like Daniel Jones as our backup.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You give QBs a 2nd chance due to the importance of the position and willingness to search all possibilities to fill the position. Some have been placed in bad situations or circumstances via coaching changes, inept coaching, limited opportunities via a numbers game, not being ready early, etc..

Recent 2nd chance QBs like Geno Smith & Sam Darnold just got millions. One could even say that Super Bowl MVP and Hall of Famer Kurt Warner was on his second chance in the league after the Packers let him go.

If it's possible, it makes more sense to trade a 6th round pick for a kid that was highly rated coming out of college and caught up in a number game than it does to value a 6th round pick as if said player selected that late is guaranteed do something. The failure rate is extremely high for these lower rated players selected so late.

Supposedly the Patriots want a third round pick for Joe Milton.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Supposedly the Patriots want a third round pick for Joe Milton.

Van Pelt was his OC last year. We have the inside scoop so we'll see I guess...

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm all for what you're saying. But there were quite a few who couldn't understand why we'd want to bring in a guy like Daniel Jones as our backup.

I'm all for a second chance QB, heck Garoppolo is on his 4th team, but that isnt Daniel Jones. He just sucks IMO

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I think Warren is potentially a Gronk type TE. With Gronk he was big enough and moved so well plus had the hands and ability to come down with contested catches. And the total sum of those traits was a nightmare for opposing defenses with a top QB who trusts him giving him opportunities.

Warren has that same size and movement type combo on film. The DBs can't handle his size. The LBs and Edge types can't cover him. If he were to fall into the teens I am certain McVay would go apeshit trying to get Snead to move up and get him. But in this class, where there isn't really a slam dunk bluechip group, where it's moreso a couple bluechip players, it just feels like Warren's that sure thing some team will take.

In this draft he's sort of what Alt was in last year's draft. The big and stable pick you know makes you better, who likely goes off in the top ten. Now that said he has to run still at his pro day, and the TEs as a group seemed to pass on the workouts at the combine, so that will affect things. I think the only way he ends up anywhere close to us is if he tanks his workout.

Wishful thinking on the workout. Contrary to belief, love the player just don't love the compensation it'll take to get him where he is projected to go. If he falls, then that is a different story. I'm not the biggest fan of TEs in round one but if McVay feels he's legit, got to side with coach. Not like I'd have a choice anyways hahaha

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I agree that Verse did more for the Rams than Bowers could have. But McVay still wanted Bowers more. So, there’s a chance that he will push hard for Warren. DLine was a bigger need for sure.

But what premiere position do the Rams currently have a big enough need in that it takes priority over a universal offensive weapon like a top tight end? And, if they drafted a player at that position who do you have in mind?

I proposed a top off ball linebacker like Campbell or Knight. To help with run defense and pass coverage. Or a SS like Emmanwori to do the same. But I doubt they ever go that route. Keep in mind this team seems to be in All-in mode to make a run for another Super Bowl. A starter makes more sense than a bench player.

BTW, Comparing the Bears or Giants, who are terrible teams with lots of holes, to a contender like the Rams isn’t apples to apples.
Some teams are in better position to take chances.

Cornerback by far. We have just adequate starters there. Getting a QB to hold the ball just a bit longer can lead to some more sacks and/or turnovers for the offense to capitalize on.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

A lot of these conversations are revolving around move TE's but if you get a Clark, Graham, or Gronk type, your whole world can change.

They're kinda the white whales at TE that can do it all. That would be amazing.

Yet they all took time to develop past year 1. Do we have that luxury with Stafford or do we get more of a day 1 impact player? TE is a position that notoriously takes time for rookies to develop. Not saying it isn't possible as Gronk and Graham seem to make a leap in year 2. Lastly, if you are talking about Dallas Clark, think he's a horrible example as he sucked ass compared to the other 2 you mentioned career wise. If any TE that we'd go after in rd 1 goes that career route, I'd rather pass.