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Allen2McVay

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Elmgrovegnome said:
Didn’t we ask that question years ago and and it turned out they were paying players under the table ….
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If you mean the Niners were in violation of the salary cap rules, I did not remember that.

But I did a little research. If what I found is what you were referring to, the violation was not as extreme as you suggest with 'paying players under the table'.

One article described it as follows:
"The NFL announced the punishment on Monday that docks San Francisco a fifth-round pick in 2025 ...

The league said the punishment came after a review found that administrative payroll accounting errors at the end of the 2022 league year resulted in the team misreporting player compensation from that season.

The NFL said the investigation determined the Niners would have remained under the salary cap regardless of the error and there was no intent to circumvent the cap."
 
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By signing all of their stars to big contracts they at least avoid empty seats and they don’t admit to throwing in the towel. So their message to the fans is that they are still contenders. True or not.

Meanwhile behind the scenes, Lynch is shitting himself, wondering how he can supplement an older roster with elite young talent and no money for free agents.

They tried to go the Rams route and attack DLline in the draft. It makes sense because that’s a position where you can see instant impact. They drafted some run stuffers this year, which was a big weakness last year. The year before they drafted Pearsall and seem to be moving toward more 11 personnel. But, can Aiyuk get back to 2023 form quickly?

I don’t think it will be enough to get them to contend. They will need a few good off-seasons and hope the vets keep producing at a high level. Judging on Lynch’s drafting lately, I’m optimistic.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
If you mean the Niners were in violation of the salary cap rules, I did not remember that.

But I did a little research. If what I found is what you were referring to, the violation was not as extreme as you suggest with 'paying players under the table'.

One article described it as follows:
"The NFL announced the punishment on Monday that docks San Francisco a fifth-round pick in 2025 ...

The league said the punishment came after a review found that administrative payroll accounting errors at the end of the 2022 league year resulted in the team misreporting player compensation from that season.

The NFL said the investigation determined the Niners would have remained under the salary cap regardless of the error and there was no intent to circumvent the cap."
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No, this was back in 1997. It involved Carmen policy and Dwight Clark
 
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dieterbrock said:
Current Dead money:
Trent Williams 55 mill- Current cap hit of 21 mill, cap hit of 38 mill in '26 or 34 mill dead cap hit if released
Nick Bosa 96 mill- Cap hit goes from 20 mill in '25 to 40+ '26 and on
George Kittle 54 mill- decent deal, cant get out until '27
Brandon Aiyuk 65 mill- cant move him until '27 at earliest when his cap hit goes to 41 mill. Likely when he's finally healthy
This is only 4 players, havent seen the numbers on Purdy or Warner yet

So many questions left.
McCaffrey, already got an 8.5 mill option bonus and only has a 1.2 mill salary (non guaranteed) for the rest of '25. I cant see him playing on that deal. Still has 20 mill of dead cap on current deal with 3 void years
Will Trent retire, or threaten to again?
Jauan Jennings- Had breakout year in '24, and is on last year of deal that will pay him about 3 mill in salary/bonus and he can earn another 3.5 mill in escalators. 8 mill in dead cap void years already hitting them in '26. Will he demand a new deal?

What a disaster upcoming
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Yup. The cap hits aren't crippling this year. But next year? Wow! Their superbowl window is closed. The playoff window might be open. Only because of the weakest schedule in the league. Even that may not be enough to make the playoffs. I see a bottom dwelling team coming real soon.
 
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snackdaddy said:
Yup. The cap hits aren't crippling this year. But next year? Wow! Their superbowl window is closed. The playoff window might be open. Only because of the weakest schedule in the league. Even that may not be enough to make the playoffs. I see a bottom dwelling team coming real soon.
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They already have the most dead cap in the league, 81 mill for 2025. And that doesnt even include the dead money for Purdy and Warner!!
 
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