The 2025 NFL Pre-Draft General Talk

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Merlin

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Robinson is about as dialed in as any guy in the league, lots of nuggets here.

Must read.
That article mirrors many of the conversations we've had here.

Ten teams polled by the author all had Milroe as late 2nd to 3rd round value, which sounds right to me given he is a bit of a project. The dudes who project to play quickly go higher. But as he noted you just never know with QBs. They're all over the map and tend to go earlier than where you have them.

No offense but I don't see anything enlightening in that article. And I'll add one thing nobody is kicking around: what if the Titans are considering taking the BPA at 1 overall (Abdul Carter and Edge is a big need for them) and then take a QB project with that first pick on day 2. It is not, after all, like they are a contender.
 

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I’m just a fan but my gut says both Egbuka and Higgins would be better pick than Burden.
Egbuka yes. I’m not sold on Higgins nor Noel. Burden has more potential than them with a higher ceiling, but the attitude may never allow him to reach that potential
 

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That article mirrors many of the conversations we've had here.

Ten teams polled by the author all had Milroe as late 2nd to 3rd round value, which sounds right to me given he is a bit of a project. The dudes who project to play quickly go higher. But as he noted you just never know with QBs. They're all over the map and tend to go earlier than where you have them.

No offense but I don't see anything enlightening in that article. And I'll add one thing nobody is kicking around: what if the Titans are considering taking the BPA at 1 overall (Abdul Carter and Edge is a big need for them) and then take a QB project with that first pick on day 2. It is not, after all, like they are a contender.
PlayerOdds
Cam Ward-20000
Abdul Carter+3300
Travis Hunter+5000
Shedeur Sanders+1000
 

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Cam Ward-20000
Abdul Carter+3300
Travis Hunter+5000
Shedeur Sanders+1000
I am well aware of how aligned the media is on what Tennessee's plan is. It is likely Cam. But the point is there is zero conversation on what if they elect to draft an elite Edge, which is a need, and how would that play out.
 

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I am well aware of how aligned the media is on what Tennessee's plan is. It is likely Cam. But the point is there is zero conversation on what if they elect to draft an elite Edge, which is a need, and how would that play out.
I would imagine if that's what they want to do, they'd just trade the spot to Cleveland (after pitting Cleveland and the Giants against each other) for a kings ransom and take Carter at 2. Can't see a scenario where they take him at 1 with that on the table.
 

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My guess on how shit goes down with the QBs in round 1...

* Cam likely goes first overall to Tennessee, but if not he goes off immediately thereafter.

* Shough goes top ten to a team that needs a QB. If he gets into the teens someone trades up for him.

* Milroe goes 21 to the Steelers.

* Dart is in move-up neighborhood if McVay prefers him. If not he still won't get out of round 1 because someone will jump into round 1 to take him.

* Sanders will go round 2.
 

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I am well aware of how aligned the media is on what Tennessee's plan is. It is likely Cam. But the point is there is zero conversation on what if they elect to draft an elite Edge, which is a need, and how would that play out.
Garrett and Clowney went #1 when the teams needed a QB. It may happen again if the Titans can manage a trade know one is openly talking about. IMO Carter is a definite future Pro Bowler, none of these QBs are close (right now).
 

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Garrett and Clowney went #1 when the teams needed a QB. It may happen again if the Titans can manage a trade know one is openly talking about. IMO Carter is a definite future Pro Bowler, none of these QBs are close (right now).
And both of them played in 3 playoff games for the teams that drafted them.

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Giants also from what I have read which means just about zero
If the Browns were to get a big time offer to move down, given that Cam is not a prototypical top QB to begin with, I think it means they'll move down. They need a lot of help and it makes sense to get QB later in this draft even if it means moving up from their round 2 spot into later round 1 with a team like the Rams.

And the Giants as well I'd say this applies to. But overall for me it's the combination of things. First off I don't think Cam is worth getting crazy over and jumping to 1 overall. He's not some polished dude who checks all the boxes. Like the rest of these guys he is a good prospect in his own ways and the position is a big need at the top.

So the rumors of both those teams getting trade up offers by teams that want bluechips makes some sense. Also I think the top five team who has the best draft will be one who goes BPA at the top and gets the bluechip then circles back for the QB.

In other words I'd rather take the Edge at the top if I'm Tennessee, and jump back in to round 1 later to reach for whatever QB is my flavor. There will probably be one or two go off the board due to teams reaching for need and that's fine. I'd reach for McCord there late first and be fine with it given that I got the impact Edge at the top. But then I also really like Carter.