Rams Select Steve Avila (OC/OG) with the 36th Pick.

[12intheBox]

I hope Bruss is ready for prime time this year but he wasn’t last year. Everyone penciling him in as a starter, is that just based on him having been selected on day 2 last year?

 

[Londoner]

I hope Bruss is ready for prime time this year but he wasn’t last year. Everyone penciling him in as a starter, is that just based on him having been selected on day 2 last year?

That, and the fact he’s a big body and fits what we’re trying to do in adding more beef up front.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I hope Bruss is ready for prime time this year but he wasn’t last year. Everyone penciling him in as a starter, is that just based on him having been selected on day 2 last year?

Didn't he get injured in the 1st quarter of the 2nd pre-season game.

I remember that he got bull-rushed in the 1st pre-season game, and someone posted ... 'Bruss couldn't play'. Every O-Lineman gets bull-rushed. I did not see nearly enough of Logan Bruss to form an opinion.

 

[Kupped]

I hope Bruss is ready for prime time this year but he wasn’t last year. Everyone penciling him in as a starter, is that just based on him having been selected on day 2 last year?

If he's not ready to go in year two, as a third rounder, I'll be a little worried.

Physically, he's an upgrade over Shelton, for sure.

 

[12intheBox]

Didn't he get injured in the 1st quarter of the 2nd pre-season game.

I remember that he got bull-rushed in the 1st pre-season game, and someone posted ... 'Bruss couldn't play'. Every O-Lineman gets bull-rushed. I did not see nearly enough of Logan Bruss to form an opinion.

Yes, he didn’t get a lot of snaps before it was over last year for him - but he also hadn’t cracked the starting lineup based on what they were seeing in practice.

I hope he is a baller for us - I’m just saying - being picked high doesn’t necessarily guarantee a starting spot on this team.

 

[RamFan503]

That's awesome man, keep experimenting with it if it feels helpful. Sometimes you hit on something you didn't even realize was an issue and bam... zzzzzz.

Wait. What idea? I could use some sleep help. Do tell.

 

[OldSchool]

Didn't he get injured in the 1st quarter of the 2nd pre-season game.

I remember that he got bull-rushed in the 1st pre-season game, and someone posted ... 'Bruss couldn't play'. Every O-Lineman gets bull-rushed. I did not see nearly enough of Logan Bruss to form an opinion.

Yeah to me the giving up on Bruss was a low point of the season around here. If we gave up on all rookies after a bad couple of plays we'd have some serious roster issues. The coaches seem to have seen enough of him in practice against some good DL players to give him the shot.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Boom
Avila
Allen
Shelton
Hav

That’s my best guess for the opening O Line

If Bruss, AJ, or others can push for starting spots, all the better.

As long as Boom is ready, I agree.

Allen is our C as well...until he gets hurt.
Hopefully Allen's injury woes are behind him. We will need him this season, as we build this young Oline.

 

[Kupped]

Non-sarcastic question.. why do people on here think Noteboom will be the starting LT?

My case for Alaric is the team is obviously high on him.. he's got a stronger base.. is younger and. has more potential than Boom... and he played almost as well at LT as Noteboom with much less NFL experience.

Jackson's blood situation is reportedly under control.

I'm all in on the kid.

 

[OldSchool]

Non-sarcastic question.. why do people on here think Noteboom will be the starting LT?

My case for Alaric is the team is obviously high on him.. he's got a stronger base.. is younger and. has more potential than Boom... and he played almost as well at LT as Noteboom with much less NFL experience.

Jackson's blood situation is reportedly under control.

I'm all in on the kid.

Because we've seen Boom be a capable LT. Because they're paying him a lot of money and haven't cut him yet they restructured to keep him around. Because we've seen less of Jackson at LT but we've seen him be good at LG. Both have injury concerns both seem to be rehabbing and getting things under control so we'll see what happens. For me personally I don't write coaches or players off easily. Add to that I think our best OL is Boom, Jackson, Avilla, Bruss and Hav in that order left to right. Allen will be backup center with Anchrum and Shelton the guards and McClendon will be the backup T but Jackson likely steps out to LT if needed maybe even Anchrum who played some tackle as well. That's my 9 OL with a couple guys on the PS.

 

[12intheBox]

Non-sarcastic question.. why do people on here think Noteboom will be the starting LT?

My case for Alaric is the team is obviously high on him.. he's got a stronger base.. is younger and. has more potential than Boom... and he played almost as well at LT as Noteboom with much less NFL experience.

Jackson's blood situation is reportedly under control.

I'm all in on the kid.

I think it could go either way. i believe they will value pass pro above all and I think Boom offers the best blindside protection, but it wouldn’t shock me if Alaric takes it.

 

[Kupped]

Because we've seen Boom be a capable LT. Because they're paying him a lot of money and haven't cut him yet they restructured to keep him around. Because we've seen less of Jackson at LT but we've seen him be good at LG. Both have injury concerns both seem to be rehabbing and getting things under control so we'll see what happens. For me personally I don't write coaches or players off easily. Add to that I think our best OL is Boom, Jackson, Avilla, Bruss and Hav in that order left to right. Allen will be backup center with Anchrum and Shelton the guards and McClendon will be the backup T but Jackson likely steps out to LT if needed maybe even Anchrum who played some tackle as well. That's my 9 OL with a couple guys on the PS.

It's nuance.. but does Jackson have injury concerns?
He has a health concern but I've read or heard that the blood clot issue is under control. That makes it a different thing for me than Boom's injury history.
I don't think even a little about the money issue as it relates to playing him. Much like other salary cap issues.. spent money. I also don't have a ton of clarity on that restructure and that's my limitations on understanding contracts.. what I've read says there's only 6.5 in dead money if he's cut post-June 1? I don't know what's what there. But I see him as expensive depth. I don't write off guys easily, but Noteboom hasn't shown enough upside or durability to be worried about investing any more playing time in, imo.

I will say that I don't know if it's the line I suggested out of the gate.. Avila is a rookie and Bruss hasn't played.. but I do think that if they win the guard positions, that's the best case for this season. I like Avila to get a year under his belt at guard before moving to center and they have two guys who's best position is center already on the roster.

 

[OldSchool]

It's nuance.. but does Jackson have injury concerns?
He has a health concern but I've read or heard that the blood clot issue is under control. That makes it a different thing for me than Boom's injury history.
I don't think even a little about the money issue as it relates to playing him. Much like other salary cap issues.. spent money. I also don't have a ton of clarity on that restructure and that's my limitations on understanding contracts.. what I've read says there's only 6.5 in dead money if he's cut post-June 1? I don't know what's what there. But I see him as expensive depth. I don't write off guys easily, but Noteboom hasn't shown enough upside or durability to be worried about investing any more playing time in, imo.

I will say that I don't know if it's the line I suggested out of the gate.. Avila is a rookie and Bruss hasn't played.. but I do think that if they win the guard positions, that's the best case for this season. I like Avila to get a year under his belt at guard before moving to center and they have two guys who's best position is center already on the roster.

Blood clots are no small thing in an athlete. Yes there is talk that it's under control but how many times have we heard that kind of thing. Todd Gurleys knee anybody?

I only mention the money because they moved it into future years when they were clearing money in future years off the books. That to me doesn't signal they are moving on from him he's here to stay, just my guess. So in this case it might be wise to follow or look at the money. IMO for this season at least stop even thinking about post June cuts since as we all know the Rams are clearing the books for 2024 and beyond.

I don't think either Boom or Jackson are long term solutions at LT I think that comes next year maybe in the 1st round even. But for now and for my 2 cents the line I posted earlier is what I think is likely the best option.

 

[Kupped]

Blood clots are no small thing in an athlete. Yes there is talk that it's under control but how many times have we heard that kind of thing. Todd Gurleys knee anybody?

I only mention the money because they moved it into future years when they were clearing money in future years off the books. That to me doesn't signal they are moving on from him he's here to stay, just my guess. So in this case it might be wise to follow or look at the money. IMO for this season at least stop even thinking about post June cuts since as we all know the Rams are clearing the books for 2024 and beyond.

I don't think either Boom or Jackson are long term solutions at LT I think that comes next year maybe in the 1st round even. But for now and for my 2 cents the line I posted earlier is what I think is likely the best option.

From what I've read.. there's a pretty wide medical variance on blood clots. Serena Williams had them, for example. It's a big question mark for us.. but I'd hope the medical information the Rams are going on is more complete and gives them a real understanding of what they can/can't expect. It's not a Gurley thing, because you can't treat a degenerating knee.. blood clots can be treated.

I think Boom being kept on was an insurance policy at best.. and I actually do think Jackson can be a long term answer. Not elite.. but very good.

The one weird thing about him, for me... is that I've seen different arm lengths listed for him.. one was under 33.. the other just under 34.. makes a difference.

He's an interesting character.. went back to meat when the Rams drafted him and put on a good chunk of weight.. He's said he's 330..

I just like the kid's play and demeanor. His twitter feed is pretty interesting.

 

[OldSchool]

From what I've read.. there's a pretty wide medical variance on blood clots. Serena Williams had them, for example. It's a big question mark for us.. but I'd hope the medical information the Rams are going on is more complete and gives them a real understanding of what they can/can't expect. It's not a Gurley thing, because you can't treat a degenerating knee.. blood clots can be treated.

I think Boom being kept on was an insurance policy at best.. and I actually do think Jackson can be a long term answer. Not elite.. but very good.

The one weird thing about him, for me... is that I've seen different arm lengths listed for him.. one was under 33.. the other just under 34.. makes a difference.

He's an interesting character.. went back to meat when the Rams drafted him and put on a good chunk of weight.. He's said he's 330..

I just like the kid's play and demeanor. His twitter feed is pretty interesting.

Boom has $21.5M this year and $16.5M next year in guaranteed/dead money. That's one hell of an insurance policy and quite honestly if that's the case the Rams are incredibly stupid to tie that much money up in a backup. Not saying Jackson can't win the job or won't but sorry an insurance policy makes less than zero sense to me.

I have a good friend who was a college basketball player until blood clots were discovered. He isn't even supposed to play in the drive way with his kids anymore because of them. As you say there are differing degrees of clots and we don't know what Jackson is dealing with. But we do know that the Rams have a very rich history of downplaying player medical issues so forgive me for not just waiving a potentially serious issue away.

 

[Merlin]

Everything probably spins off that LT spot.

If Jackson wins LT then Boom is swing OT because he gets pushed around at LG.

If Boom wins LT then Jackson is stout enough to consider Avila to Center for a stronger starting 5.

But what is nice here is we actually have options. And most importantly a real competition at LT gives us our best chance of getting good play there.

LT is a huge key here in camp. If that is unsettled your QB is thinking about the rush.

 

[Kupped]

Boom has $21.5M this year and $16.5M next year in guaranteed/dead money. That's one hell of an insurance policy and quite honestly if that's the case the Rams are incredibly stupid to tie that much money up in a backup. Not saying Jackson can't win the job or won't but sorry an insurance policy makes less than zero sense to me.

I have a good friend who was a college basketball player until blood clots were discovered. He isn't even supposed to play in the drive way with his kids anymore because of them. As you say there are differing degrees of clots and we don't know what Jackson is dealing with. But we do know that the Rams have a very rich history of downplaying player medical issues so forgive me for not just waiving a potentially serious issue away.

They didn’t sign him to be an insurance policy.
I’m saying if the current play is close, and it is, and there’s upside to Alaric, and I believe there is, that’s what Boom is for 23. Insurance.

 

[nighttrain]

Boom doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy .

Can Jackson? I hope so and think we will see whether we want to, or not.
train

 

[Dodgersrf]

Boom doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy .

Can Jackson? I hope so and think we will see whether we want to, or not.
train

Put Avila between a healthy Boom and a healthy Allen and we should be fine.

Let's hope for health on the oline this year.

 

[Kupped]

I guess my biggest question is whether they're thinking about putting him at Center as a rookie.
The line would be significantly beefier, ultimately, I think... I'd put Anchrum in the lead for the starting left guard spot in that case.