PREGAME Rams at Eagles Pregame Thread - Stopping The Tush Push?

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AZRams said:
Refs went nuclear on Washington in the playoffs when they went offsides multiple times in that one shart-yardage situation.

I thought it was a great idea and I'd have thought NY might have gotten the point but they didn't.
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Yeah, I do remember that now that you mention it. If I remember correctly after a few flags (3?) they awarded Philly with a touchdown because you aren`t allowed to false start perpetually.

I think it is a good approach. The officials have PUBLICALLY admitted that they cannot officiate that play, so why not just f*ck with what is in McVay`s words, NOT a football play.
 
OnceARam said:
Yeah, I do remember that now that you mention it. If I remember correctly after a few flags (3?) they awarded Philly with a touchdown because you aren`t allowed to false start perpetually.

I think it is a good approach. The officials have PUBLICALLY admitted that they cannot officiate that play, so why not just f*ck with what is in McVay`s words, NOT a football play.
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I liked it because it brought the absurdity of the butt plug play so much needed attention.
 
Rams are shit on short yardage stoppage situations anyway. Can't recall the last time we actually made a stand there. It's not our strength, we're a DL built on quickness and penetration which often comes up short in that situation because you're giving up mass to the opposing OL.

Just keep them out of short yardage. Get your stops at 3+ yards. Put them in a lot of third and longs and a win is possible. Let them run all over the yard on our boys and we're going to lose.

Philly's offense requires the run threat to operate at its winning level. So stop the fucking run on early downs and contain Hurts.
 
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The Rams have to stop the run and early in the game most teams can slow that down. The problem is that you have to get at least a 2 score lead so they have to pass more than they run. All their games are close at half time and then the opposing D starts to wear down.
 
“Turbo set!” said:
Cowboys tried something that almost worked. Have to have the beef in the middle to do it which unfortunately not sure the Rams have.

Clog the middle and have a DB come around the corner and grab Hurts legs.
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The Rams offensive line defending the pass is pretty bad. Shelton is a Little center, no beef that you need for something like that. They just need to make enough time for Stafford to throw. That they can do, so far. May be run blocking is good, so there is that. Go, Rams!
 
1) Philly wasn't awarded a TD vs Washington. If I remember correctly, the official made an announcement after the 4th or so false start that 1 more and they would allow the TD.

2) I would put money on it the officials will call a false start this week, but when Philly is on the 50.. not the goal line
 
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How to win this game.

Offense: Run.The.Damn.Ball. The Eagles have played this team with deep shells to prevent the explosive plays. The sorry to mid passing game can be utilized as well. This can play right into the Rams’ hands with a good mindset, which is to run the clock and keep the Eagles offense off the field.

I would hope we can get a halftime lead, and wait for the Eagles to predictably change up their defense, which will allow for the deep shots.

On Defense: Force the Eagles to make Hurts beat us with his arm. He has not thrown the ball consistently well this offseason. I want to see the Rams starting line of V8, Davis, Ford, and Agent 0 make life difficult on Barkley. I also want to see us go with Dolac, Speights, and Landman during early downs as well with one high safety.

Again, make Hurts beat us with the arm.
 
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dang said:
So why doesn’t a team put two giant lineman in the backfield with a midget (sorry little person) and have the lineman just launch the midget over the line for 2 yards?
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FaulkSF said:
How to win this game.

Offense: Run.The.Damn.Ball. The Eagles have played this team with deep shells to prevent the explosive plays. The sorry to mid passing game can be utilized as well. This can play right into the Rams’ hands with a good mindset, which is to run the clock and keep the Eagles offense off the field.

I would hope we can get a halftime lead, and wait for the Eagles to predictably change up their defense, which will allow for the deep shots.

On Defense: Force the Eagles to make Hurts beat us with his arm. He has not thrown the ball consistently well this offseason. I want to see the Rams starting line of V8, Davis, Ford, and Agent 0 make life difficult on Barkley. I also want to see us go with Dolac, Speights, and Landman during early downs as well with one high safety.

Again, make Hurts beat us with the arm.
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Yep.
1) Our run blocking needs to get some removal this week.
2) Last year we let Saquon and Hurts escape to the house. Don't do that.
 
Poona could be an asset against this stupid fucking play. He is our only hope to get leverage.

This play will be outlawed by start of next season. If the shit bag eagles really wanted to, they could run this play on every down. They would have 20 minute drives with a guaranteed score at the end and win low scoring games by making a single defensive stop.
 
I ain't concerned about the "tush push".!!! My main concern is containing the run period. The Eagles have a huge OLine, which is where I think Shula's work is cut out for him!!!

PFF ranks the Eagles Oline #1...our Rams ain't bad at #7. The Rams Dline is ranking at 3 which is great, but the Ram LBs need to have a heck of a game.

Then there's keeping Hurts from breaking big runs when he scrambles.

I know the Rams can defeat his team, but my biggest worry of all is how McVay calls the offense, because he can get too pass happy!!!

Sundays's a comin'...and we're gonna see!!!
 
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The last two games the Rams D was horrible containing the edge. Stroud and Ward got outside and both made big plays while being chased (and not caught), by Rams defenders.

They better get their act together because Hurts is a much better scrambler than those other two.

They better double team Carter wherever he lines up because no one on the Rams OL can block that guy one on one. Dedich and Shelton are probably not enough to slow him down.

I fear for Staffords safety in this game.
 
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LARAMSinFeb. said:
You mean about the "rolling start"? I don't see that as a criticism of the play itself.
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if you listen to the last of the quote, he says something to the effect of the officials will continue to call it the same except his tone of voice is very passive aggressive. I’ve never heard him speak that way before.

The only way to stop the fudge budge would be to have the line and down judge come onto the field right next to the line to ensure there is no early movement. They’ll need to make sure there are only two thrusts and not three.

Otherwise else, Philly will continue to abuse the rules.
 
Selassie I said:
Well, I think what he was saying is that the refs cannot see the play clearly. The bunched together lineup of the O-Line and the rest of the offense is like nothing else we've seen. Goal line offense lineups still gave the possibility of the pass to keep the defense honest. The lineup used for this play is like nothing else we've ever seen.

The offensive tackles are actually lined up in a way that does block the view of the guards. They are the biggest players on the field as we know... their bodies and giant melons can easily conceal the normal view of the inner O-Line from the refs who are staring down the line of scrimmage from each side of the field. Even if this is happening by accident, it blocks the view of the guards. But is it by accident? I would say so if just one of the guards jumped a little bit early... but what we see now is both guards jumping early like a precision dance move while being concealed by the biggest bookends of humans on the planet.

This comes from a ref who was at the highest level possible. He was the person sharing that the play is impossible to ref. We all can see that he is being 100 % honest in his description of what's happening on that play. It's not an excuse or fantasy... it's the truth.

Pushing the ball carrier forward from behind was illegal in football my whole life until they changed that common sense rule in the last few years. That was a terrible mistake.

In the meantime, I recommend that we sign a little person to the team for what could be our special version of this anti-football play. Let's just find the smallest little person we can find... when we need a yard for a first down or are being stood up on the goal line.... bring in our little dude and have him jump into the arms of our strongest player so that he can literally toss his whole body while he's holding the ball completely over the heads and hands of the defensive players. That is basically the same bastardization of the spirit of football as we're seeing now with this bs play. Seriously.

This isn't a football play... it's a way to cheat the spirit of the game. Pushing ball carriers forward from behind with your biggest dudes is blasphemy to the spirit of the sport. These fucks Philly have it down to a ballroom worthy dance move that was designed to hide the offsides of their guards purposefully jumping into the defense. It's total bullshit.
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This is a great post. The money involved in all sports now often seems to be at the expense of the spirit of the game.
Too bad the officials cannot see the TV replays of the play which clearly show the guards moving early. Maybe an official with a better angle for watching for early movement from from the guards could make the call. It could be seen from many other angles than just the officials on the line of scrimmage.
Question. Is the play challengeable by the opposing coach?
 
For those thinking we have to run the ball heavily in this game…

1. We are not running the ball exceptionally well. Nor are we built to do that. We don’t have the Eagles Oline and the running skills of Saquan Barkley and Jalen Hurts.

2. We are built to pass the ball. We have two future hall of fame WRs and a potential Hall of fame thrower who is really hot right now. We have a plethora of TE’s playing real well especially Allen and Higbee healthy. We also have Mcvay who is one of the best passing game minds of our generation.

The Eagles defense all around is tough, so running or passing to will be in for a battle and must be patient and on your game.

What is working and what the defense is giving you should be the deciding factors most of the time.

A must run or must pass mindset is the wrong approach in my opinion.
 
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