Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson

[Coliseum Ram]

Had we traded 13 for McDuffie and taken Simpson at 29, no one would say a thing. I wish we could have done that. Might have saved us a 3rd rd pick next year or at least the 5 & 6 we gave them this year. Now maybe Simpson gets poached before 29 so there is that.

Yeah, heavily doubt Simpson is there at 29. Thats why Les did what he did.

 

[Tano]

And yet, neither is capable of QBing this team after Stafford retires.

As I have said before, I would worry about the future after we win a superbowl this year.

As some people have said, it is really hard to win a superbowl and when you have the team ready to win now, you go for it. That's just my take.

Plus, I have already stated how I feel about Simpson lasting longer than 8 games. However, I will have higher hopes that his incentive to improve his physicality will be more than 8 game Murray and his Call of Duty addiction.

 

[Tano]

Contributed is the key word.

The problem is impact is what makes the difference in a team's success.

I was a Cooper Jr. guy, but I never thought he'd make that much of an impact as a rookie barring an injury to Adams or Puka and McVay creating packages for him. But, yes, he would contribute.

Bain is going to be a case study for the league given his historically short arms. I could never get on his bandwagon as I still believe he's better served as a 4-3 DE. That plus, when I saw a couple interviews where NFL OLineman pointed out how much easier it was to play guys with shorter arms.

But, most importantly, whenever I watched Miami I came away more impressed with Mesidor than Bain. Even on a couple of his sacks it was Mesidor who forced the QBs into his lap. Maybe I watched the wrong games, but he really didn't appear to do much during the season only to turn it on a bit during the playoffs.

You might be right about Bain. However, I specifically wanted Cooper in case either Puka or Adams gets hurt.

As I said in another post in this thread, our offense suffered dramatically when Adams went down last year and was the main reason why we lost to Carolina and Atlanta. Two teams we should have easily beaten imho.

Just to emphasize, my biggest hope would be that we could find a sucker to trade down with and pick up Cooper and get another pick so we could get an ILB on one of the next 2 rounds.

When the Rams didn't trade down, I was hoping for Bain. Wouldn't be my first choice in the draft, that was others who went higher and I knew we probably wouldn't be able to draft them, but I would have been okay with Bain.

 

[Memphis Ram]

The worry is if Adams or Puka goes down. Who is going to step in? When Adams went down last year, our offense suffered quite a bit.

Yes we got good TEs but is it enough?

We shall see.

Team averaged about 32 points a game without Adams.

They scored 35 points in the game Puka missed.

The problem was the defense and special teams. That's what cost them wins.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

McShay rewind from 6 months ago. 3rd overall, best QB on his big board.

Scroll to 10:50 calls him a Burrow.


View: https://youtu.be/l-fZz3YpMG0?si=1g0nJBvjPfJhK-3f

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah, heavily doubt Simpson is there at 29. Thats why Les did what he did.

I've heard from enough people in the NY area that the Jets were either taking him at 16 or the Cardinals were going to try and trade up to get him. Everyone is gonna believe what they want to believe but the fact is that its never worth losing your guy over a gamble to pick up an extra mid/late round pick

 

[Coliseum Ram]

I've heard from enough people in the NY area that the Jets were either taking him at 16 or the Cardinals were going to try and trade up to get him. Everyone is gonna believe what they want to believe but the fact is that its never worth losing your guy over a gamble to pick up an extra mid/late round pick

Heard the same here in the Big City. Its completely fine at 13. The "master stroke" in time.

 

[PARAM]

The worry is if Adams or Puka goes down. Who is going to step in? When Adams went down last year, our offense suffered quite a bit.

Yes we got good TEs but is it enough?

We shall see.

WTF are you talking about? In the 3 games Adams missed, our offense scored 10 TDs and kicked 7 FGs. That's more than 30 pts per game!!! What suffering are you talking about?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Rams Future Franchise Quarterback. Haters gon' hate.....

Nope, some people just want to see the kid prove it before they are convinced. He's being rooted on to succeed yet you're still acting butt hurt. It's too funny. Relax, we all want him to succeed yet you wanna try to insult people like "good thing we have adults to overrule children"........ c'mon man, is that BS really necessary?

 

[Tano]

Team averaged about 32 points a game without Adams.

They scored 35 points in the game Puka missed.

The problem was the defense and special teams. That's what cost them wins.

I was wrong about the Panthers. Adams got hurt a week later.

However, against Atlanta, Rams scored 24 points. If they had a second decent receiver, I think they win.

They were averaging over 30 points a game.

Against Seattle without Adams, the Rams played a hell of a game offensively. It was their first game without Adams and they messed up Seattle with their 3 TE formations for a lot of that game.

And Cardinals - pfft. They were going to score a lot of points with or without Adams that game.

Atlanta was after Seattle and they came prepared for the 3 TE formation. Morris actually planned a good defensive game against the Rams that game.

Edit - And I think we win the Seattle game with Adams even though we did score 30 points in regulation. I think we would have gotten closer to win the game at the end instead of having to kick an over 50 yard field goal.

 

[Tano]

WTF are you talking about? In the 3 games Adams missed, our offense scored 10 TDs and kicked 7 FGs. That's more than 30 pts per game!!! What suffering are you talking about?

I will tell you WTF. See my post above.

We should never have lost the Atlanta game and that was due to missing Adams. We suffered dramatically in that game.

We should have easily scored more than 30 points that game.

And if we had, we win that game by more than 3 points.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Nope, some people just want to see the kid prove it before they are convinced. He's being rooted on to succeed yet you're still acting butt hurt. It's too funny. Relax, we all want him to succeed yet you wanna try to insult people like "good thing we have adults to overrule children"........ c'mon man, is that BS really necessary?

No it's not totally necessary. There will be a natural "market correction" on this.

 

[PARAM]

I will tell you WTF. See my post above.

We should never have lost the Atlanta game and that was due to missing Adams. We suffered dramatically in that game.

We should have easily scored more than 30 points that game.

And if we had, we win that game by more than 3 points.

We lost the Atlanta game because #9 threw 3 picks ( including a pick 6) and our D allowed over 200 yards rushing. Unless Adams played QB and defense, I don't see how you conclude we lost because we didn't have Adams.

 

[Tano]

We lost the Atlanta game because #9 threw 3 picks ( including a pick 6) and our D allowed over 200 yards rushing. Unless Adams played QB and defense, I don't see how you conclude we lost because we didn't have Adams.

Would 9 have thrown those picks if Adams is in the game. It's a completely different scenario if he is in the game.

You're comparing apples vs oranges imho.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

WTF are you talking about? In the 3 games Adams missed, our offense scored 10 TDs and kicked 7 FGs. That's more than 30 pts per game!!! What suffering are you talking about?

Damn WTF are you worked up for lol, I'm teasing. In Tano's defense, we could have possibly scored more with Adams in these games. I know in the Atlanta game, the Rams didn't really score much until the latter half of the game. No way to say this offense wasn't better with Adams playing. Gotta score points if the D doesn't show up. What if that happens again where our defense doesn't show up or we play another great offense? Just spit balling here. I will also say that Humphrey really fucked us in that Atlanta game big time too, ouch at that memory. By the way here's a stat that supports the redzone portion where we probably should have scored TDs vs FGs. Those things decide wins and losses in always close and contested Rams games.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

No it's not totally necessary. There will be a natural "market correction" on this.

Please explain this natural market correction? I'm honestly curious.

 

[Tano]

Damn WTF are you worked up for lol, I'm teasing. In Tano's defense, we could have possibly scored more with Adams in these games. I know in the Atlanta game, the Rams didn't really score much until the latter half of the game. No way to say this offense wasn't better with Adams playing. Gotta score points if the D doesn't show up. What if that happens again where our defense doesn't show up or we play another great offense? Just spit balling here. HoweyI will also say that Humphrey really fucked us in that Atlanta game big time too, ouch at that memory. By the way here's a stat that support the redzone portion where we probably should have scored TDs vs FGs. Those things decide wins and losses in always close and contested Rams games.

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But the whole point I was bringing up would Cooper be a decent replacement for Adams if he gets hurt.

I don't truly know to be completely honest. However, if I was a betting man, the odds would definitely improve over Mumpfield and Whittington.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Please explain this natural market correction? I'm honestly curious.

When both the cheap shots at Ty go away, and the wisdom of drafting Ty, by Les and Sean are realized and respected, if not agreed with.

 

[Soul Surfer]

If Bennett beats out Simpson.

Isn't that "Mojo Ram"?

 

[Memphis Ram]

I was wrong about the Panthers. Adams got hurt a week later.

However, against Atlanta, Rams scored 24 points. If they had a second decent receiver, I think they win.

They were averaging over 30 points a game.

Against Seattle without Adams, the Rams played a hell of a game offensively. It was their first game without Adams and they messed up Seattle with their 3 TE formations for a lot of that game.

And Cardinals - pfft. They were going to score a lot of points with or without Adams that game.

Atlanta was after Seattle and they came prepared for the 3 TE formation. Morris actually planned a good defensive game against the Rams that game.

Edit - And I think we win the Seattle game with Adams even though we did score 30 points in regulation. I think we would have gotten closer to win the game at the end instead of having to kick an over 50 yard field goal.

C'mon now. You really believe that Adams missing that Falcons game was that big of a deal? D. J. Humphries poor play had FAR more to do with the offense that still scored a respectable 24 points.

Are you really going to continue to disregard the defense and special teams in order to overstate the importance of a WR?