Poll: Willie Lampkin Fullback packages this year?

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Will McVay install some Willie Lampkin Fullback packages this year?


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dieterbrock

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I didn't say anything about the "cutdown" bro.

We have a practice squad all season where a player can't be nabbed off of to put on someone's 53.
Which the Rams have in fact done.
The comment you quoted me on was regarding final cuts, not practice squad.
If you poach a guy off another teams PS, they have to go on the 53 man.
 

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This is only the 3rd year of the straight to 53 from 90, it doesnt appear any such move was made in '23 or '24.
Doesn't happen before the cutdowns happen because the PS is set after that. So the change yo 1 cut down day is irrelevant.
 

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Doesn't happen before the cutdowns happen because the PS is set after that. So the change yo 1 cut down day is irrelevant.
Not true, guys would be cut and would be able to have a shot elsewhere
So back to the point, Lampkin may or may not make the 53, nothing surprises me, but if he's a final cut, he lands safely on the PS.
FWIW, more of what they see in practice is gonna determine the 53 more than the pre-season games
 

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The comment you quoted me on was regarding final cuts, not practice squad.
If you poach a guy off another teams PS, they have to go on the 53 man.
Yeah, duh.
And I never said a word about "final cuts" man.

How come you can never just agree to disagree and move on with your life?
 

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I posted a few reasons why he and Konata might both be steals straight after the draft. There was a consensus among scouts that they were both great technicians who would fall based on fairly abstract measurables (such as not posting a sub 50 forty or height)

It appears that both are going to comfortably outplay their draft spots :)

If Lampkin doesn’t start at center (which seems a little unlikely) then I don’t see why they can’t mix in some jumbo and H-Back (FB) packages for him (e.g. for max protection). IMO, his kind of talent should be on the field on game day
 
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Not true, guys would be cut and would be able to have a shot elsewhere
And those guys aren't auto on the 53 man roster which unless I read wrong was the discussion.

As for Lampkin he can end up on the PS. Or another team can come and convince him his chances are better on their PS. Once we cut down to 53 those players can end up anywhere from another teams 53 to their PS or our PS.
 

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And those guys aren't auto on the 53 man roster which unless I read wrong was the discussion.

As for Lampkin he can end up on the PS. Or another team can come and convince him his chances are better on their PS. Once we cut down to 53 those players can end up anywhere from another teams 53 to their PS or our PS.
Yup, although most guys know the team wants them and pretty much agree to be on PS at cutdown
Which is what I expect the case would be with Lampkin if he were to be cut, teams have been known to premium pay guys on the PS so they stick around as well. Getting poached during the season is a whole nuther ball of wax
Wouldnt shock me if he makes the 53 either
 

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I don't think Lampkin's size, or lack of, is a problem in the middle of the line. I can see it if he was a tackle. But a guy that heavy low to the ground should have plenty of leverage in his run blocking. Zuerline thinks he'd be a first rounder if he was a few inches taller. That is saying something.
 

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I don't think Lampkin's size, or lack of, is a problem in the middle of the line. I can see it if he was a tackle. But a guy that heavy low to the ground should have plenty of leverage in his run blocking. Zuerline thinks he'd be a first rounder if he was a few inches taller. That is saying something.
Yep, low man wins. I remember seeing an interview with Jason Kelcie. He talked about the guys who gave him the toughest time. He gave kudos to AD, but he actually mentioned Poona Ford as the guy who gave him the most trouble and it was because he couldn't get lower than him. Poona always had the leverage. This same advantage will certainly help Lampkin.
 

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Whatdoes Lampkin have to do to earn a roster spot? Pancake someone on every play? He's putting up AD-type numbers in the run game. He has to stay on the roster (at this point) but there are still more games to come. And I'm not sure how he's done in practice either. I just like what he did against Dallas's second team. JMHO.
 

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Whatdoes Lampkin have to do to earn a roster spot? Pancake someone on every play? He's putting up AD-type numbers in the run game. He has to stay on the roster (at this point) but there are still more games to come. And I'm not sure how he's done in practice either. I just like what he did against Dallas's second team. JMHO.
Let him start the next preseason game. Any performance near his first game and IMO he’s a lock.
 

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Every team has 90 guys cutting down to 53, and they all have those tough cuts. The idea that a team is going to give a spot on the 53 man to a guy they havent even had in camp is silly
I'm not sure I understand your point.

Last year, in 2024, the roster cutdown day was August 27th. Two weeks later, on September 10th, the Rams signed Dylan McMahon to their active roster, stealing him off of the Eagles practice squad. McMahon was an Eagles 6th round pick who had spent all summer in camp with them.


(Yes, the Rams had played one game already, against the Lions on Sunday September 8th.)

So is your point that "during the season, teams poach players off other teams' practice squads all the time, but shortly after cutdown day and prior to the season starting, this poaching almost never happens"? I mean, it seems entirely plausible that the Rams could have signed McMahon just four days earlier, on September 6th. Right?

Bottom line: I'd disagree with any assertion that Willie Lampkin would "safely make it to the Rams practice squad" if he were one of the cuts on August 26th this year. Another team could easily have a rash of injuries on their OL and be persuaded to scoop him up based on his preseason tape (and media hype as well).

Luckily, the Rams are smart and I think they know what they have in him, and he will be one of the 53 on the active roster on August 26 this year.
 

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I mean, it seems entirely plausible that the Rams could have signed McMahon just four days earlier, on September 6th. Right?
No because if Avila didnt get hurt in said game 1, they wouldnt have signed him. Rams were already down Ajax on suspension, Havenstein couldnt go and Noteboom proved what we all thought that he was useless
All things we learned AFTER game #1
 

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No because if Avila didnt get hurt in said game 1, they wouldnt have signed him. Rams were already down Ajax on suspension, Havenstein couldnt go and Noteboom proved what we all thought that he was useless
All things we learned AFTER game #1
Ok, it's a pretty minor point and not worth talking through I guess. We can just agree to disagree.

You said, "The idea that a team is going to give a spot on the 53 man to a guy they havent even had in camp is silly." I thought your implication was that poaching "rarely if ever" occurs between cutdown day and the start of the season. (This is usually a 9 to 14 day window, depending on a team's opening day schedule).

Not gonna take the time to research it, but it sure seems plausible, especially if a team gets a rash of injuries at a certain position. You seem to think Willie Lampkin would be "safe" regardless of whether or not the Rams keep him on the active 53 on August 26. I disagree. Poaching prior to the start of the season might indeed be rare, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to risk it.

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Whatdoes Lampkin have to do to earn a roster spot? Pancake someone on every play? He's putting up AD-type numbers in the run game. He has to stay on the roster (at this point) but there are still more games to come. And I'm not sure how he's done in practice either. I just like what he did against Dallas's second team. JMHO.
I'd say he made it already given how he played. Provided he doesn't go in the shitter in the remaining games.
 

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I'd say he made it already given how he played. Provided he doesn't go in the shitter in the remaining games.
I would bet money there's no chance of him going in the shitter PERIOD.

The guy continually rises to the occasion to outperform expectations.
What a great and fun underdog story.