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GAME DAY MNF - Bills at Bengals/Suspended with Damar Hamlin in Critical Condition
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I remember when AED's first came out. It has saved so many lives I would not even begin to guess.
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I posted Vincents comments earlier in this thread if you'd like to see what he says about them making the decision to not resume the game. Unless you really fall into the category of people you quoted me saying exist before that is.
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Isn't this a "When did you decide to stop beating your wife?" type of argument? I haven't heard that this was done or even considered. We don't have to try to provide evil motivations as if we have the need to point blame.
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Pretty much the peeps I have talked to, including two family members who are physicians who were watching the game, this truly is just a freak accident.
They both agreed unless there are unknown congenital issues, which these guys are checked over so thoroughly they found it highly unlikely, it looks like Commotio cordis.
At the time they also talked about a possible torn artery or aorta for example. They both believe there certainly would have been news of surgery if that was the case.
Evidently there is no news to share because of the induced coma to cool the body to prevent any brain damage. That is suppose to last around 24 hours. Then they will bring Damar out of the coma to consciousness to determine cognitive issues. They said their prognoses is most recover fully from this. As dramatic as it looks.
Color me cautiously optimistic we could see this young man play again. I really had thought the worse last night. Had a hard time sleeping. Really didn't.
They both agreed unless there are unknown congenital issues, which these guys are checked over so thoroughly they found it highly unlikely, it looks like Commotio cordis.
At the time they also talked about a possible torn artery or aorta for example. They both believe there certainly would have been news of surgery if that was the case.
Evidently there is no news to share because of the induced coma to cool the body to prevent any brain damage. That is suppose to last around 24 hours. Then they will bring Damar out of the coma to consciousness to determine cognitive issues. They said their prognoses is most recover fully from this. As dramatic as it looks.
Color me cautiously optimistic we could see this young man play again. I really had thought the worse last night. Had a hard time sleeping. Really didn't.
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No, it’s not that.
Sorry, but it’s completely fair to question the NFL. I’m not assuming this happened, just noting it’s out there.
As for the Vincent thing, @OldSchool …. Espn has come out with a statement saying they were consistently told there would be a five minute warmup and play would resume. Until that changed.
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Pretty much what Mark Schlereth said on the radio today. That hit happens hundreds of times ever weekend in college and pro football and we've never seen this before.
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Because that is the NFL standard policy for after a player injury. As has been said multiple times so many that you'd think people would have heard this already. But while this was going on Vincent and Goodell were making the decision on how to proceed because this isn't your standard incident it has never happened before you can't have a policy that's effective to cover something that has never happened. So those two who are in charge were making the decision on what to do as the officials were communicating the standard operating procedure that ESPN and all the NFL's broadcast partners already know is the standard policy.
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You’ll note…. I’m not saying it’s what happened… and I’m not suggesting the delay gives more weight to the reports it happened.
I’m saying that there’s word out there that this is what happened.. that players said no way.
I’m saying if… IF that turns out to be true, then they deserve to catch shit.
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Nah just feeding the hate by repeating wrong info
I get it instead of telling people what happened we'll tell them what didn't happen that sounds like a good thing to do.
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They're very easy to use as well.
The technology is simple. They need to make them much more affordable for people to have and carry.
A refurbished one runs about $800.
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Sure hope they are right. Let's all just think positive thoughts for the young man. Get well Damar.
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Yeah, me too
Ironically, my Neuro Surgeon brother in law's brother was the Bengals team physician for like 30 years into the late 80's, early 90's.
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I also posted that video by Dr Brian Sutterer who shows what likely happened... chest hit at a very specific time in the cardiac sine wave... likely what caused the arrhythmia and subsequent heart attack.
That he regained his pulse is super good.
Hopefully, they'll be able to take him off the ventilator and he'll be breathing on his own soon...
I think it's safe to say that his season is over and he and his family can focus on just getting well... hopefully no one in their building is trying to figure if they can get him back during the playoffs...
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All concern is for this kid but the world turns and the Bills have a game with New England Sunday. How in the hell can they be expected to get ready and play that game? I don't know. I think the only way things change in a hurry is if Hamlin is conscious and responding to treatment. And from what I've heard so far today, that might not be until Thursday or Friday, if that early.
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Teams usually find some comfort and strength in pledging to play for, and in honor of, their injured teammate. I've seen that do real positive things to teams in the past.
Not sure how else they could do it.
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I may be in the minority but Damar's condition is very important to me. More important than Rams stuff right now.
I have always said I love football a smidge more than I love the Rams and everything else falls off rapidly after that.
Damar's Uncle is quoted as "Damar remains in intensive care but has improved to 50 percent oxygen on a ventilator – he had previously been on 100 percent. Right now, they got him on a ventilator, so they’re trying to get him to breathe on his own," Glenn told the network. "So, we’re just kind of taking it day by day. Still in the ICU. They have him sedated, so just continue to administer the medical treatment that they’ve been doing. Once he gets out of ICU, I'll feel better myself. I’m really, really thankful for the medical staff that’s been working with him," Glenn said of the "heartbreaking" events. "They’ve been truly awesome and helping him with his recovery. It was a really, truly scary scene to witness that yesterday, as everyone in the country probably can agree with. I would have felt the way I felt no matter who it was, but for it to be my nephew, man, it was especially more of a gut punch to see that. I’m thankful that he’s still here, he’s still alive, and he’s still fighting. We’re just taking it day by day and continue to let the medical staff do what they do."
Just thought would share.
I have always said I love football a smidge more than I love the Rams and everything else falls off rapidly after that.
Damar's Uncle is quoted as "Damar remains in intensive care but has improved to 50 percent oxygen on a ventilator – he had previously been on 100 percent. Right now, they got him on a ventilator, so they’re trying to get him to breathe on his own," Glenn told the network. "So, we’re just kind of taking it day by day. Still in the ICU. They have him sedated, so just continue to administer the medical treatment that they’ve been doing. Once he gets out of ICU, I'll feel better myself. I’m really, really thankful for the medical staff that’s been working with him," Glenn said of the "heartbreaking" events. "They’ve been truly awesome and helping him with his recovery. It was a really, truly scary scene to witness that yesterday, as everyone in the country probably can agree with. I would have felt the way I felt no matter who it was, but for it to be my nephew, man, it was especially more of a gut punch to see that. I’m thankful that he’s still here, he’s still alive, and he’s still fighting. We’re just taking it day by day and continue to let the medical staff do what they do."
Just thought would share.
