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With the Giants picking #3, Ward may not be there.Resign Jimmy and take ward? Hmmm
With the Giants picking #3, Ward may not be there.Resign Jimmy and take ward? Hmmm
Agreed. Option #1 is for him to be in horns.I'd love either trade for compensation value if it indeed doesn't work out with Stafford. I want him in horns but yeah we don't know what his ask is. His wife saying the ball is our court is such a bullshit PR play on her part because for all we know they may have asked for a ridiculous on his contract restructure. I just know I would like her to shut up and let the process play out. Hopefully everything works out one way or another.
Exactly, if Hall was so great and influential why was he not on McVay's staff?so wait.. just because Stafford's brother in law was hired by the Giants, that means Stafford will follow him there?
really, you guys are better than this!
and how do we even know MS9 likes his brother in law that much?
We'd have to trade him before his roster bonus (or get him to agree to delay it). We'd save no money. But it's a trade we could make if a team offered us enough.For anyone considering a trade of Stafford, would you please explain how it works for the Rams cap-wise?
I see a number on the cap sites, and via a google search that would seem to make a trade extremely unlikely.
She's annoying period. I could give 2 shits what she has to say on the topic. Let it play out. She is an attention seeker that the media obviously plays off of. She's been cringe ever since she discussed that boyfriend shit.Agreed. Option #1 is for him to be in horns.
If Kellie is to be believed, Stafford isn't asking for a ridiculous contract since she hinted that he's willing to accept less than market rates since he doesn't want the team to be in a bad position. We shall see...
I don't mind her talking though. Her loyalty is to her husband/family, not the Rams. As it should be. Her speaking out or keeping quiet isn't going to change talks with the Rams decision makers and Stafford's agent.
How much Dead-$?We'd have to trade him before his roster bonus (or get him to agree to delay it). We'd save no money. But it's a trade we could make if a team offered us enough.
That's what I see ... Thanks$45m
You didn't finish the list of what they get.That's what I see ... Thanks
So, if the Rams trade Stafford ...
The Rams lose a top-tier-quarterbck that has led them to the playoffs in three of the past four seasons
... has played exceptionally well in all seven playoff games over that period ... won a Super Bowl.
The past two playoff seasons have been great fun to watch ... re-bounded from 3-6 and 1-4 starts
... enjoyed terrific comebacks and a ton of close victories.
Last year they gave the Lions all they could handle in Detroit ... Detroit should have played in the Super Bowl
... this season they had the Eagles in Philadelphia ... the team that destroyed all it's OTHER playoff opponents.
In return for Stafford ...
The Rans get almost no cap relief ... have $45M in Dead-$ ... with no viable option at quarterback.
THAT makes sense?
Yes losing Stafford would hurt in the short term but in the short and long term it may help out in building a better balanced roster minus the QB position. That's where this negotiation is tricky dependent upon the asking price of Stafford and his agent. It could also backfire on us but zo trust this FO.You didn't finish the list of what they get.
Draft picks?
2026 cap space.
Reports are that they like Garoppolo and he would be the back up option if they can't work things out with Stafford. He was under contract for $3 mil this year. Maybe they feel that Stafford isn't worth 17 Garoppolos.
Or maybe they feel they can get Garoppolo, Higgins and Reed or Ward for the same price as Stafford.
Rolling with Stafford is definitely option #1, but that's not to say that there are no other viable paths forward.
Yeah, I think there’s some naivety in that thinking.Yes losing Stafford would hurt in the short term but in the short and long term it may help out in building a better balanced roster minus the QB position. That's where this negotiation is tricky dependent upon the asking price of Stafford and his agent. It could also backfire on us but zo trust this FO.
I don’t think the realistic draft pick return is anywhere near sufficient.You didn't finish the list of what they get.
Draft picks?
2026 cap space.
I like Garoppolo but think there’s a HUGE difference between him and Stafford.Reports are that they like Garoppolo and he would be the back up option if they can't work things out with Stafford. He was under contract for $3 mil this year. Maybe they feel that Stafford isn't worth 17 Garoppolos.
Trading Stafford, by your own admission, does not add any meaningful cap space. So how does it make it any easier for the Rams to add top free agents?Or maybe they feel they can get Garoppolo, Higgins and Reed or Ward for the same price as Stafford.
Trading Stafford completely re-sets the Rams; and, what the Rams have right now … where they are right now … is special, in my opinion; and I don’t take it for granted.Rolling with Stafford is definitely option #1, but that's not to say that there are no other viable paths forward.
The viable option is Jimmy Garoppolo. And yes, it makes absolute sense if you're not conceiving of it as a short-term decision. Stafford is nearing retirement. This is a move to retool and look to the future. The Rams have a choice. They can pursue a Super Bowl next year with Stafford, or if a team offers a great deal, we can put our resources into more of a long-term approach.That's what I see ... Thanks
So, if the Rams trade Stafford ...
The Rams lose a top-tier-quarterbck that has led them to the playoffs in three of the past four seasons
... has played exceptionally well in all seven playoff games over that period ... won a Super Bowl.
The past two playoff seasons have been great fun to watch ... re-bounded from 3-6 and 1-4 starts
... enjoyed terrific comebacks and a ton of close victories.
Last year they gave the Lions all they could handle in Detroit ... Detroit should have played in the Super Bowl
... this season they had the Eagles in Philadelphia ... the team that destroyed all it's OTHER playoff opponents.
In return for Stafford ...
The Rans get almost no cap relief ... have $45M in Dead-$ ... with no viable option at quarterback.
THAT makes sense?
Trade him and it’s a 45 mill dead cap hit, would have to pay his replacement 4 mill or less on the cap to equal out staffords hit for this year.For anyone considering a trade of Stafford, would you please explain how it works for the Rams cap-wise?
I see a number on the cap sites, and via a google search that would seem to make a trade extremely unlikely.
She was cringe even before that.She's annoying period. I could give 2 shits what she has to say on the topic. Let it play out. She is an attention seeker that the media obviously plays off of. She's been cringe ever since she discussed that boyfriend shit.