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[Psycho_X]

Wow, now there's a chance they might just be stranded and alive. A lot of things can make knocking noises in the ocean so not guaranteed but this certainly gives me the heebie jeebies just listening to this. Holy shit I can't even imagine. And even if they miraculously found the submersible they have to have an immediate way of surfacing it in the next 12ish hours before they run out of oxygen. Man, just giving me anxiety thinking about it.


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[Selassie I]

 

[Corbin]

Rich folk went down with the Titanic as well. Some conspiracy theorists think it was intentional because they opposed the central bank created by the Federal Reserve.
I wonder what this Billionaires business was and who inherits.

I think instead of a conspiracy it’s more of idiot decisions on going cheap from all the things I been reading about the submarine. They most likely got crushed / drowned from what it sounds like.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Some conspiracy theorists think it was intentional because they opposed the central bank created by the Federal Reserve.

It's against my better judgment to even bother to ask, but....

If someone were to say "it was intentional", what is meant? "Who" did "what" intentionally, and for what supposed reason?

Never ceases to amaze me how wild conspiracies can gain traction without a shred of proof, let alone logic.... grumble....

Not implying you personally hold the belief, just trying to clarify what the belief is in the first place...

Pretty clear to me that the accident was caused by incompetent sub designers who had inadequate regard for safety, combined with rich people buying tickets with very little common sense. No conspiracies necessary.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Wow, now there's a chance they might just be stranded and alive. A lot of things can make knocking noises in the ocean so not guaranteed but this certainly gives me the heebie jeebies just listening to this. Holy shit I can't even imagine. And even if they miraculously found the submersible they have to have an immediate way of surfacing it in the next 12ish hours before they run out of oxygen. Man, just giving me anxiety thinking about it.


View: https://twitter.com/HamzaSaeed_/status/1671532970593734660?s=20


View: https://twitter.com/OceanGateExpeds/status/1671475968077094914?s=20

View: https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1671530010539089920?s=20

To my ear, those noises don't sound man-made. If I were gonna make "banging noises" for help, I'd make damn sure it was clear it was a distress signal.

 

[norcalramfan]

It's against my better judgment to even bother to ask, but....

If someone were to say "it was intentional", what is meant? "Who" did "what" intentionally, and for what supposed reason?

Never ceases to amaze me how wild conspiracies can gain traction without a shred of proof, let alone logic.... grumble....

Not implying you personally hold the belief, just trying to clarify what the belief is in the first place...

Pretty clear to me that the accident was caused by incompetent sub designers who had inadequate regard for safety, combined with rich people buying tickets with very little common sense. No conspiracies necessary.

I don’t think we have any idea what happened. It is amazing to me that we don’t know where it is, given the ability to track things these days. Failure to locate the vessel will severely hamper the efforts to ascertain what happened. I also think it is naive to assume that no one benefits from a Billionaires death, and to what lengths some one might go to obtain those benefits. I also will think what I think without the help of thought police.

 

[Psycho_X]

To my ear, those noises don't sound man-made. If I were gonna make "banging noises" for help, I'd make damn sure it was clear it was a distress signal.

Yeah, it's improbable but got to keep the hope alive I suppose. But agreed, if it was me down there I'd be playing the bass drum solo for "We Got the Beat" until someone found me or I died.

 

[RhodyRams]

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[Merlin]

Few things re: sound underwater...

First it travels faster than it does in the air because water is more compact in its molecular form. Second in the ocean there are layers of different temperature water that move all about, which subs use in trying to shake the sub hunters. Those layers can basically form channels and direct sound in weird ways that make direction unpredictable. The area of ocean they are in and how deep it is... There are certainly many layers.

So basically you gotta hope if they suffered a problem the submersible ended up on the ocean floor close to where it was diving. If not they're gonna run out of time most likely.

 

[oldnotdead]

Now it's coming out that there have been problems on every trip. Sounds like prison time for the operators of the damn thing. My neice is a Navy nuke tech and went to school with a bunch of submariners. She told me how complicated a Navy nuke sub and they are going a fraction of the depth. The hull is a titanium alloy not some uncertified composite piece of junk. Apparently the last time they used it they had electrical malfunctions.

Every commerical fishing boat in the US is required to have a transponder that goes off the moment the boat sinks, It floats and transmits for day so searchers know where they are. This piece of junk didn't even have that basic piece of equipment because of "costs".

Not a whole lot different than space tourism. Damn boosters are hugely technologically built but even they blow up occasionally. Its why after Nam I have never flown in a helo again and have only traveled by commercial air 4 times since in the middle seats rear only. On impact almost 40% of the time the tail section separates and the middle seats are the best. The forward section keeps moving forward until it explodes and everyone who survives the impact burns to death.

A former GF of mine told me about her experience as a flight attendant survivor of a crash. My former brother in law was an ambulance-chasing attorney and he said the same thing years later. Rougher ride but who cares. My neighbor in Seattle worked for Boeing and he said the same thing and its the only place he and his family sit.

 

[Memento]

It's late Wednesday, almost Thursday in Central Time. They're certainly dead by now, and the Navy/Coast Guard should leave the submarine - if anything's left of it; it could've imploded under the pressure - to serve as a warning to all those who think that going to the most famous graveyard in the oceans of the Earth comes without risk. Screw recovery.

And OceanGate needs to be sued to oblivion; it's obvious that they had shady business practices and cut so many corners that such a disaster was bound to happen. Their CEO (on the sub; looks like karma hit him hard. Pity about the other four.) even said that "innovation for submersibles was stifled by safety regulations". Well, he's certainly paid for his cheapskate ways now.

 

[TSFH Fan]

to serve as a warning to all those who think that going to the most famous graveyard in the oceans of the Earth comes without risk.

This comment just made me think of Everest. There are a couple hundred human popsicles littering Everest, many quite visible. The open air soylent green ice cream festival hasn't slowed the tourism as far as I know.


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Despite the risks, and the bodies they will encounter, thousands of people flock to Everest every year to attempt this impressive feat. And while it isn’t even known for sure how many bodies are on Mount Everest today, these corpses have done nothing to dissuade other climbers.

The Bodies Of Dead Climbers On Everest Are Serving As Guideposts

There have been over 200 climbing deaths at Everest and many of the bodies remain to serve as a grave reminder for those who follow.

allthatsinteresting.com

 

[Memento]

This comment just made me think of Everest. There are a couple hundred human popsicles littering Everest, many quite visible. The open air soylent green ice cream festival hasn't slowed the tourism as far as I know.


Pics in the link:

The Bodies Of Dead Climbers On Everest Are Serving As Guideposts

There have been over 200 climbing deaths at Everest and many of the bodies remain to serve as a grave reminder for those who follow.

allthatsinteresting.com

Whether it's the high of Everest or the depths of the Titanic, such gruesome coffins will never fully dissuade people from trying, true. But I don't buy the shit that their sub has to be recovered. Why put anyone else at risk for a sub that's likely imploded? Why spend so much to recover the corpses of five idiots - including an idiot who knew the risks of cutting corners but did it anyway, and persuaded others to join him when a reporter exposed the absolute fuck out of the sub and how unsafe it was beforehand and when they probably should've regretted their life choice before getting into that sub (hell, I don't know much about submarines, engineering, and the like, and there's no way I would've gotten into the sub because of how unsafe it is) - when the whole Malaysian plane mystery received less attention with way more innocent people onboard who had no idea what was going to happen?

Yes, I realize that the passengers on that plane are long since dead and the plane's probably long gone, but where was the world's attention span on that when you compare it to these five idiots? They knew the risks, they failed to play it safe. The plane's passengers had no idea that they were on the path to death; they had no way to expect it, even with the risks of flying.

And if I sound harsh or if anyone wants to criticize me for being insensitive to the families? The families should realize that their now-deceased loved ones were idiots - and I have no time or patience for fools.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I also think it is naive to assume that no one benefits from a Billionaires death, and to what lengths some one might go to obtain those benefits. I also will think what I think without the help of thought police.

I'd agree that it's totally reasonable to wonder who might benefit from the death of a billionaire. I also agree it's reasonable to wonder if someone might be willing to go to great lengths to acquire those benefits (even from criminal activity, possibly.)

In your original post you said, "Some conspiracy theorists think it was intentional because they opposed the central bank created by the Federal Reserve." I just literally don't understand the meaning of that sentence. Of course everyone's free to have their opinions, I was just trying to follow the logic behind it.

 

[XXXIVwin]

This comment just made me think of Everest. There are a couple hundred human popsicles littering Everest, many quite visible. The open air soylent green ice cream festival hasn't slowed the tourism as far as I know.


Pics in the link:

The Bodies Of Dead Climbers On Everest Are Serving As Guideposts

There have been over 200 climbing deaths at Everest and many of the bodies remain to serve as a grave reminder for those who follow.

allthatsinteresting.com

Holy crap, man. That Everest article was tough to read. Fascinating though.

 

[dieterbrock]

I dont know anything about the passengers, but knowing that a father took his son on that trip, the heartbreak is immeasurable. The thought of how the rest of that family has to deal with that loss just makes me incredibly sad.

 

[Psycho_X]

I just don't get the fascination with doing this type of risk. The submersible had a tiny window that had to have been super thick and basically useless for actually looking out and seeing anything. So it's not like they are seeing the wreckage with their own eyes. I'm assuming it's still all via cameras and screens inside the sub. So they aren't really seeing anything the rest of us haven't seen before. At least Mount Everest you're physically doing it and experiencing the trip. I still think that's stupid to do but I at least understand that thought process. But this... I just don't get it as an "experience".

 

[Ramhusker]

RIP. People do seemingly crazy things all the time. Hearing the wife of one of the passengers Grandmother or Great Grandmother was a fatality on the Titanic.

 

[Psycho_X]

Well, sounds like they found a debris field near Titanic area. Not sure if that means floating or at bottom of ocean. They are supposed to have a press conference this afternoon but at least they seem to have confirmation of what happened. Frankly, them being instantly pulverized from a hull breach is a lot better way to go then having to spend 4 days in terror waiting to run out of oxygen and die.


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[Psycho_X]

One second you're floating along in a submersible after paying $250k just so you can say you floated by a 100+ year old wreckage and then the next second....

Too soon?