Kyren Williams

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Merlin said:
I would bench him for the Ravens game. If you fumble you get benched and can marinate in your juices on the pine for a week while you work on fumbling drills.
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While I agree, I can’t see McVay doing that. But maybe he could start Corum as a message.
 
Kyren is a RB that has had a known fumbling issue in some critical situations in the past. Naturally, NFL defenses are going to target the ball. He needs to be cognizant of this in those type of situations. However, there can be a Catch-22 to this. Marshall Faulk was not a big fumbler. However, when he did fumble occasionally, he was concerned about never allowing fumbling to become a head issue because he felt it affected his play. He would pay attention to how he cradled the ball until he was satisfied, but he did not like dwelling on fumbles too much ... certainly not to the point where it affected his play.
 
kurtfaulk said:
He took his eyes off the ball. The ultimate no no to actually catching the ball.

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Yeah and coaches don't split hairs on this shit. If the QB tosses you the ball and it hits your hands in a reasonable frame it's on you to haul it in. They're not gonna measure spin and offer excuses. Catch the fucking ball or go sit on the bench.

thirteen28 said:
While I agree, I can’t see McVay doing that. But maybe he could start Corum as a message.
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I can't see McVay doing it either. Just what I'd do. I'd let Corum and Hunter know they're gonna split carries. If Hunter is still struggling in protections then it's Corum's show with Hunter backing him up.
 
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Cjcinec said:
I think it’s way too early to make that assessment. Knee jerk decisions rarely solve issues sbut can create worse ones. With the offensive line being so unreliable at this point exposing Stafford by taking away an element of pass protection would be an error that would cost more than one game. Rams need to improve and clean up their game on offense but they are still scoring points just not as efficient as they need to be in the red zone. Last night was a very poor showing by the defense.
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Definitely not a knee jerk reaction for me....I never thought it was a good signing nor supported re-signing him until after this season. I was in the group that wanted Kyren to show he could take care of the football before even broaching a 2nd contract. I'm just not a believer in re-signing RBs to 2nd contracts unless they are elite, Kyren isn't. He's good but it is what it is now. I say sit his ass on crucial running plays if he can't hold on to the ball. I'm beyond tired of seeing him fumble at the exact time it kills a game for us. If he learned to hold the ball with 2 fuckin hands we wouldn't have this issue.
 
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Merlin said:
Always true and especially with our OL thus far this year. But I think the biggest hurdle with backs translating to the NFL is the give-a-F in terms of sticking your nose in there and taking on NFL backers at a full run. This rook strikes me as the kind of dude who that won't be a problem for, so I expect he won't take too long to get the protections down.

Beyond that it's not that hard to read center-out for your pickup priority or chip the assigned man. Rook of course is gonna fuck up but hopefully if he's willing as a blocker not too much.
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My point is that McVay doesn't tend to play rookie HBs because he doesn't trust them. I'm very frustrated with Kyren right now, but the one thing you can say for him is he is a value-add as a pass blocker. Reads blitzes like a QB, kills edge rushers with his chips, and will step in and blow up a blitzing LB.
 
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jap said:
Kyren is a RB that has had a known fumbling issue in some critical situations in the past. Naturally, NFL defenses are going to target the ball. He needs to be cognizant of this in those type of situations. However, there can be a Catch-22 to this. Marshall Faulk was not a big fumbler. However, when he did fumble occasionally, he was concerned about never allowing fumbling to become a head issue because he felt it affected his play. He would pay attention to how he cradled the ball until he was satisfied, but he did not like dwelling on fumbles too much ... certainly not to the point where it affected his play.
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Marshall Faulk never fumbled. Mike Martz
 
WoodsideRam said:
Lol I grew up there. Went to Bishop Grimes High School. I thought I was the only Rams fan growing up there. In the snow. That soul crushing lake effect snow.
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There aren't many of us but we're out here. Somebody has to piss RAMS in the snow so it may as well be me!
 
The last play when I first watched it I absolutely hated the play call. Too bunched up. Play action to me would have been ideal.
But when I watched this dude show it (forward to about 4:30 ish) really Allen, Puka and Whittington had to open enough room and did nothing. And Allen especially F'd it up. So to be fair, while the play call wasn't great, the execution is what failed. We had so many chances to close this game out. Even with Kyren's back breaking fumble, we get this play we probably score a TD. Just sucks.

 
Kyren Fumble rate is 1 fumble per 66.1 Carries in Career

League avg this season is basically 1 fumble per 55 Carries as of right now!

What I find intresting is he always fumbles in First week of October!
 
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