Kyren Williams

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My frustration and im sure others will echo this.

When Williams is struggling you'd think their 2nd round pick Corrum could pick up the slack and at times this year he has done that running the ball. Key word running.

What i don't get is if memory serves me right he was pretty good in college catching the ball out of the backfield. Either he's not working on his craft or the big stage is too big for him. Either way I hope its something he can correct.

Also what's frustrating is Hunter is a no show once again. And I don't get it, playing rb isnt rocket science and having a full off-season should produce SOME results. But nothing...

Hunter would be huge in short yardage situations or using him like a FB/RB in the backfield.

But to go on the OP topic Williams contract is not a huge contract. It sucks yes that he has issues holding onto the ball in critical situations but every RB fumbles it from time to time. Really what needs to happen is McVay needs to have another RB start a game. Williams can still play but there has to be consequences at this point. It's just been too sloppy
McVay always does this with rookie HBs. He doesn't trust them to handle the passing game assignments, and he doesn't want to tip the other team to run based on personnel.
 
I think @dieterbrock and @Merlin are too young to remember Wendell "rip your guts out" Tyler
Then they won't remember Lawrence McCutcheon, who was a steady eddy type of back with not much speed or wiggle. He was a slasher type of back who, according to the stats, had zero fumbles in his career.
He was a reliable back, like KW, but without the untimely fumbles in the biggest moments.
 
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There's a lot that Kyren does well. That dude has a way of finding holes that a lot of other backs don't find. He usually always gets positive yardage, you don't often see him running straight into defenders, and he's a TD machine. But man are these fumbles killing us. I can live without him having breakaway speed because he runs so effectively but only if he can figure out this fumbling problem. If he keeps fumbling then McVay is gonna have to start exploring his options.
 
Puka and Verse are going to be making QB money. How much is BY going to cost? Kobie Turner?
But yes, let's pay Fumbleina just to make sure he stays happy.
Yes. They love his personality. Really shouldn't matter when he is out there costing us games. Plural. Big games.

Hunter should get a shot. He is not simply the only back that can actually break a run over 15 yards, he is also a power back that can lift a semi truck. In theory, he has all the tools you would want in a RB. We may never know though. If he didn't get a single look last night with our 2 bums were costing us the game, when will he?
 
Puka and Verse are going to be making QB money. How much is BY going to cost? Kobie Turner?
But yes, let's pay Fumbleina just to make sure he stays happy.
So let me get this straight, you are concerned that the 10-11 mill of cap space KW will take in 26/27 from a Cap of 300 mill is going to have any hinderance in signing 4 players where each will be looking at 3X that amount, each?
Not much for math are you?
 
Yet fumbled last night, has caught less than 50% of his passes, and has killed more drives than he has sustained. He had two decent games when nobody had any plans of game planning for him, then the colts shut him down for 2.3 yards a carry while Kyren averaged 5.9 against the same team…as the lead back. Then he did fuck all against the 9ers, and got benched for it. He is not better than Kyren. He’s just not. Kyren isn’t a game changer, but he does the dirty work better than most.
Like I said 1 fumble in 3 years and that's playing in the best defensive conference in the country and oh he also led the country in rushing TD's
 
I think @dieterbrock and @Merlin are too young to remember Wendell "rip your guts out" Tyler
Why would I not remember Wendell Tyler but still hold a grudge against Nolan Cromwell for dropping the INT against the Steelers
I loved Wendell Tyler and was bummed when he was traded, until of course they got ED
 
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There's a lot that Kyren does well. That dude has a way of finding holes that a lot of other backs don't find. He usually always gets positive yardage, you don't often see him running straight into defenders, and he's a TD machine. But man are these fumbles killing us. I can live without him having breakaway speed because he runs so effectively but only if he can figure out this fumbling problem. If he keeps fumbling then McVay is gonna have to start exploring his options.
MrOrange, did you grow up in Syracuse or just attend school there?
 
I was pretty suprised they extended him
...but the money wasnt huge

That being said he is a couple fumbles away from being done here
 
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Then they won't remember Lawrence McCutcheon, who was a steady eddy type of back with not much speed or wiggle. He was a slasher type of back who, according to the stats, had zero fumbles in his career.
He was a reliable back, like KW, but without the untimely fumbles in the biggest moments.

McCutcheon had a fumbling problem in his first year. Chuck Knox started making him carry a football with him whenever he was in the Rams facilities. The fumbling problem went away after that.
 
His fumbles have been killer for this team. But Kyren himself grew up a rams fan in STL and you know this shit is eating him alive. I’m not excusing his untimely errors but this guy cares deeply and wants to succeed bc he loves this team. It would be easy to pile on but I’m going to support him til the day he’s not wearing horns anymore. He balled out last night besides that one play. We will need him going forward and I expect him to ball out again vs Baltimore.
 
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His fumbles have been killer for this team. But Kyren himself grew up a rams fan in STL and you know this shit is eating him alive. I’m not excusing his untimely errors but this guy cares deeply and wants to succeed bc he loves this team. It would be easy to pile on but I’m going to support him til the day he’s not wearing horns anymore. He balled out last night besides that one play. We will need him going forward and I expect him to ball out again vs Baltimore.

I'll support him as long as he takes a good hard look at himself to diagnose the problem and does something to fix it.

He is a good back, he does a lot with relatively limited athletic ability (the anti-Cam Akers, who did little with a good amount of athletic ability), and he's a fucking monster in pass protection. But he has to stop hurting the team, and the means he really has to take some sort of active measures to deal with the problem.
 
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