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I didn't say that the have a loaded roster of big names. I said that they don't need to have one to succeed and all holes filled. There's a difference.
BTW, you forgot about DaVante Adams.
Jalen Ramsey might get traded, thoughts on Rams acquiring him???
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BTW, you forgot about DaVante Adams.
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I dont see how they can cut him if the info posted is correct. Would be a 49 mill dead cap hit either upfront or over 25/26.
I suppose if Miami absolutely needs to part ways, they trade him and eat 6-8 mill of his '25 pay, they'd basically net even on the cap and then take a <gulp> 18 mill dead cap hit next year. The team that trades for him would inherit a whopper of a contract that hopefully he would renegotiate to a more team friendly deal. I love Ramsey and would love for him to be a Ram, but not at 20 million.
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He probably cares too much about the money. That would be my one knock on him. He’s a team player but I am not sure it’s team first.
If he would sign a 4 year deal, front loaded, relatively cheap, but containing relatively easy to acquire bonuses, then he could be our no 1 CB now, and our pro-bowl safety of the future.
How much does he love playing and how long does he want to play for? He is not having a hall of fame career, so if that matters to him, he needs at least one more ring and some big years ahead
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He's already got a contract, that's the thing, he hasnt even started playing on the extension he signed last year.
Wanting to be paid for that contract isnt greedy, he'd be nuts to give it up.
He's no more about money than any other player in the league
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Agreed. But if Miami trade him they will be on the hook. For how much depends on whether he would agree to new terms with his new team. If he would then anything is possible
Does that 18-20 take into account that the Dolphins would have paid the pro-rated bonus in the dead money amount? The new team wouldn't be paying the prorated amount.
Of course it's still a large hit on Miami's cap.
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It's in the details of the contract that we dont see. If he's cut the dead cap hit is 49 mill, if traded its 29 mill. Prior to June 1 or not. So there is a 20 mill guarantee in there somewhere. Difference being the acquiring team is absorbing that 20.
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The acquiring team likely wouldnt re-negotiate a new contract until after the season, it would be crazy to do so. After 2025, there is little guaranteed money left so you would wait and see how he played, having the option to cut a player is the ultimate in negotiating.
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And thank god he did, pissed off that POS cheapskate owner enough to trade him to the Rams so they could win a Superbowl
Oh wait, were you trying to say that was a bad thing?
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You talk as though Ramsey’s game will possibly nose dive off a cliff. I am saying it will not because he is someone who can switch to safety where he would likely be great. Like I said, would he take an incentive laden deal? I think the brinks truck is relevant because I am not sure he would. IMO it would be best for the Rams, if he was willing to negotiate a team friendly long term contract in a similar way to Aeneas Williams
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A better deal for the Rams is a 5th rounder and Miami pays $6M ... but, the Dolphins have to take Kendrick.
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Did you quote the right person?
I didn’t say a word about his play. He’s not an 18-20 mill per year player is all I’ve said. And I’m a huge fan of his.
Ramsey has a 3 year contract extension which starts next year, with very little guaranteed. So whoever trades for him has no reason to talk contract.
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Who knows what McSnead says in private phone calls? Snead sold an ice maker to Eskimos and got a 1st rounder in 2026.... Les, make Miami eat some cap for Ramsey!.
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Here's the full Breer exchange:
From DefendTheDen (@Vretz2121): Rams the favorite landing spot for Ramsey? Player and team preference? Especially given the Rams didn't draft or use UDFA to add a CB?
Defend, I think the Los Angeles Rams would love to have him. The money is the issue for the Rams and any other potential suitor, and the Miami Dolphins who are trying to move him as well. He’s due $25.1 million this year, and all but $865,000 of it is fully guaranteed. At this point of the offseason, very few teams have the cash in the budget or room on the cap to take that salary on. In a special circumstance, you might make it work. But as good as Ramsey still is, I don’t know that there are many teams that would look at acquiring him in that way.
So, at that point, you’d be looking for the Dolphins to take on a chunk of the money to essentially “buy” a draft pick as part of the deal to offload Ramsey and his guarantees.
I think a deal with the Rams would probably require that. And I wouldn’t be against it for them, either. I think Ramsey can still play corner and could have a second life as an NFL player, a la Rod Woodson, as a safety down the line.
From DefendTheDen (@Vretz2121): Rams the favorite landing spot for Ramsey? Player and team preference? Especially given the Rams didn't draft or use UDFA to add a CB?
Defend, I think the Los Angeles Rams would love to have him. The money is the issue for the Rams and any other potential suitor, and the Miami Dolphins who are trying to move him as well. He’s due $25.1 million this year, and all but $865,000 of it is fully guaranteed. At this point of the offseason, very few teams have the cash in the budget or room on the cap to take that salary on. In a special circumstance, you might make it work. But as good as Ramsey still is, I don’t know that there are many teams that would look at acquiring him in that way.
So, at that point, you’d be looking for the Dolphins to take on a chunk of the money to essentially “buy” a draft pick as part of the deal to offload Ramsey and his guarantees.
I think a deal with the Rams would probably require that. And I wouldn’t be against it for them, either. I think Ramsey can still play corner and could have a second life as an NFL player, a la Rod Woodson, as a safety down the line.