I’ve got a hypothetical and possibly semi-heretical question about AD’s possible extension…

[RamFanWA]

Older article.... but getting a $hit-ton of money is only part of the equation for retiring well...
Sports Illustrated once estimated that 78 percent of NFL players end up broke or under financial stress

Managing to make it to retirement myself, I can say, decisions made 30 years ago certainly have an impact on the retirement years. For me, retirement is maybe 20-25 years - for these guys, it may be 50 years. You need to be set up well, to get through that in the manner you have been accustomed to.

 

[Kupped]

Woods can be replaced.....in fact, he already has been.
AD cannot be replaced.
Mind closed again.

If this is a comparison suggesting because Woods is replaceable, Donald is, I would suggest that minds may be closed all around.

Donald, quite literally, can't be replaced right now. There is no interior dlineman in the NFL who can do what he does. That will start to change as he ages, for sure. But Donald, as a player, is the definition of irreplaceable.

Now, you can scramble and re-work what you do.. get value added to different positions, change your scheme, etc.. but that's not really replacing what you have in the best 3-tech to ever play the game.

Woods is an incredible teammate and a really good player and completely replaceable.

 

[BonifayRam]

I would agree that AD is just not replaceable. However, If I was in Snead's position I would begin to look to find a groom-able DT much AD-like. So this young 3 -tech DT can play behind him& learn. Said numerous times about this current DL is absent of any potential pass-rushers other than AD.

Now that the LBing Edge rushers lost Miller & Ogoronkwo, the 2021 season #2 & 3 ER's along with a physically damaged ER Terrell Lewis & a super green Chris Garrett to go with waiver wire pick up Hollins, leaving only Floyd to help AD in bringing a pass rush.........is sure to cause McVay to think going "television route".

 

[Kupped]

I would agree that AD is just not replaceable. However, If I was in Snead's position I would begin to look to find a groom-able DT much AD-like. So this young 3 -tech DT can play behind him& learn. Said numerous times about this current DL is absent of any potential pass-rushers other than AD.

Now that the LBing Edge rushers lost Miller & Ogoronkwo, the 2021 season #2 & 3 ER's along with a physically damaged ER Terrell Lewis & a super green Chris Garrett to go with waiver wire pick up Hollins, leaving only Floyd to help AD in bringing a pass rush.........is sure to cause McVay to think going "television route".

I would suggest that Snead's always doing that.. always trying to find special players and always looking for players to develop. We've seen the fruits of that the last few years.

 

[Rams43]

Agree. What i’d like to see is acknowledgement from players that getting paid more than other players earlier in their career allows them to save and invest a shit ton more than the Johnny come latelies. Egos trump logic and gratitude with many of todays NFL players. I like adding incentives and moving the balance of contracts to guaranteed $$ but god dammit unless you are in a contract year honor the huge contract you signed 4-5 years ago that set you and the next 4 generations of your family up for life. I think Stafford is an example of doing it right. Now get off my lawn you damn delinquents all hopped up on that wacky weed and hooch.
Drop the mic…

What dang just said.

That goes for Cooper Kupp also.

Yeah, I’m old fashioned but that’s the way I was raised. Honor your commitments and always do your best and the rewards will come.

Do NOT move the goalposts in the middle of a contract, dammit!

 

[Steve808]

Older article.... but getting a $hit-ton of money is only part of the equation for retiring well...
Sports Illustrated once estimated that 78 percent of NFL players end up broke or under financial stress

Managing to make it to retirement myself, I can say, decisions made 30 years ago certainly have an impact on the retirement years. For me, retirement is maybe 20-25 years - for these guys, it may be 50 years. You need to be set up well, to get through that in the manner you have been accustomed to.

Many players make enough money to last generations but they go broke, apparently because they become like many lottery winners. They live a lifestyle even beyond even what they earn, give in to mooching friends and family, and invest in businesses that they don't know enough about to be involved in.

I know the NFL has financial classes for the players but in the end, the player decides what they do with their money.

The large % of players going broke of in financial stress I believe, is within 5 years from when they stop playing.

 

[fearsomefour]

If this is a comparison suggesting because Woods is replaceable, Donald is, I would suggest that minds may be closed all around.

Donald, quite literally, can't be replaced right now. There is no interior dlineman in the NFL who can do what he does. That will start to change as he ages, for sure. But Donald, as a player, is the definition of irreplaceable.

Now, you can scramble and re-work what you do.. get value added to different positions, change your scheme, etc.. but that's not really replacing what you have in the best 3-tech to ever play the game.

Woods is an incredible teammate and a really good player and completely replaceable.

Agreed.

 

[fearsomefour]

I would agree that AD is just not replaceable. However, If I was in Snead's position I would begin to look to find a groom-able DT much AD-like. So this young 3 -tech DT can play behind him& learn. Said numerous times about this current DL is absent of any potential pass-rushers other than AD.

Now that the LBing Edge rushers lost Miller & Ogoronkwo, the 2021 season #2 & 3 ER's along with a physically damaged ER Terrell Lewis & a super green Chris Garrett to go with waiver wire pick up Hollins, leaving only Floyd to help AD in bringing a pass rush.........is sure to cause McVay to think going "television route".

I wanted to draft DL the last couple of drafts......and Gaines has been a find. But, the likelihood of landing an elite pass rusher who plays hand down DL is slim to none in the late rounds.....so it goes.

 

[BonifayRam]

I wanted to draft DL the last couple of drafts......and Gaines has been a find. But, the likelihood of landing an elite pass rusher who plays hand down DL is slim to none in the late rounds.....so it goes.

When we review what Morris has now excluding AD @ DT for this upcoming season:

A'Shawn Robinson | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

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Greg Gaines | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

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Bobby Brown | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

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Marquise Copeland | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Marquise Copeland contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Mike Hoecht | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

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The top four are all closer to NT or less so 5 tech DT's than anything close to a 3 tech DT where AD primarily takes snaps. If DL'er Hoecht does catch fire after being a Ram since 2020 then it's possible that Morris might have a potential 3 tech reserve behind AD. Big IF!

Summary:
#1) With the loss of two of our top 4 front five pass rushers
#2) along with AD's questionable future after this season
#3) ER Terrell Lewis has had a continuous unhealthy damaged knee now for 4 straight (college/NFL) years.

Snead's has huge needs to find & groom several brand new pass rushers either @ the 3 tech DT position or at the ER/OLB'er posts this Training Camp.

 

[Kupped]

When we review what Morris has now excluding AD @ DT for this upcoming season:

A'Shawn Robinson | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

A'Shawn Robinson contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Greg Gaines | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Greg Gaines contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Bobby Brown | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Bobby Brown contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Marquise Copeland | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Marquise Copeland contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Mike Hoecht | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Mike Hoecht contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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The top four are all closer to NT or less so 5 tech DT's than anything close to a 3 tech DT where AD primarily takes snaps. If DL'er Hoecht does catch fire after being a Ram since 2020 then it's possible that Morris might have a potential 3 tech reserve behind AD. Big IF!

Summary:
#1) With the loss of two of our top 4 front five pass rushers
#2) along with AD's questionable future after this season
#3) ER Terrell Lewis has had a continuous unhealthy damaged knee now for 4 straight (college/NFL) years.

Snead's has huge needs to find & groom several brand new pass rushers either @ the 3 tech DT position or at the ER/OLB'er posts this Training Camp.

Copeland is a 3 and is a pretty decent backup.

 

[Merlin]

The depth of this DL group is fantastic. This has been by far the best DL room we've had for many years. Copeland has been a real find as a rotational piece and Hoecht can play. Both have some upside too.

All we lost in FA was SJD. So snap up a DL to fill that group from the bottom and you're good to go.

Also I consider Brown to be NT depth behind Gaines. I think that will be his role. But if they want to play him at 5T or even let him compete there then they'll need to find a run stuffer for depth in this draft.

 

[Kupped]

The depth of this DL group is fantastic. This has been by far the best DL room we've had for many years. Copeland has been a real find as a rotational piece and Hoecht can play. Both have some upside too.

All we lost in FA was SJD. So snap up a DL to fill that group from the bottom and you're good to go.

Also I consider Brown to be NT depth behind Gaines. I think that will be his role. But if they want to play him at 5T or even let him compete there then they'll need to find a run stuffer for depth in this draft.

Agreed on all that.. I'm really looking forward to seeing Brown after a full year with the Rams. Physically.. he's just ridiculous.

 

[fearsomefour]

When we review what Morris has now excluding AD @ DT for this upcoming season:

A'Shawn Robinson | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

A'Shawn Robinson contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Greg Gaines | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Greg Gaines contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Bobby Brown | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Bobby Brown contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Marquise Copeland | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Marquise Copeland contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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Mike Hoecht | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Mike Hoecht contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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The top four are all closer to NT or less so 5 tech DT's than anything close to a 3 tech DT where AD primarily takes snaps. If DL'er Hoecht does catch fire after being a Ram since 2020 then it's possible that Morris might have a potential 3 tech reserve behind AD. Big IF!

Summary:
#1) With the loss of two of our top 4 front five pass rushers
#2) along with AD's questionable future after this season
#3) ER Terrell Lewis has had a continuous unhealthy damaged knee now for 4 straight (college/NFL) years.

Snead's has huge needs to find & groom several brand new pass rushers either @ the 3 tech DT position or at the ER/OLB'er posts this Training Camp.

I always liked Copeland a lot. I really pushed for him making the roster for a couple of years. Because of injury he finally got a chance at some playing time. He was ok. Just a rotational run stopper kind of guy.
Jonah Williams and Garrett (two different positions, I know) show promise as pass rushers.
I loved the Brown draft pick and I hope he can develop as well.

 

[BonifayRam]

I always liked Copeland a lot. I really pushed for him making the roster for a couple of years. Because of injury he finally got a chance at some playing time. He was ok. Just a rotational run stopper kind of guy.
Jonah Williams and Garrett (two different positions, I know) show promise as pass rushers.
I loved the Brown draft pick and I hope he can develop as well.

Posted a few weeks back that Marquise Copeland might find himself trending downward in snaps this season. MC talents are not needed in the mix of this 2022 DL.

MC is a good run stuffer relief but with Robinson finally getting healthy & strong being near impossible to block on run downs along with Greg Gaines & Bobby Brown the run-stuffing crew is complete.

What's needed in this blending of the DL is a pass rush talent to assist AD. That would point directly towards DL'ers Jonah Williams or Mike Hoecht. Both of them are much snappier a foot & have some skills to pressure with.

 

[fearsomefour]

Posted a few weeks back that Marquise Copeland might find himself trending downward in snaps this season. MC talents are not needed in the mix of this 2022 DL.

MC is a good run stuffer relief but with Robinson finally getting healthy & strong being near impossible to block on run downs along with Greg Gaines & Bobby Brown the run-stuffing crew is complete.

What's needed in this blending of the DL is a pass rush talent to assist AD. That would point directly towards DL'ers Jonah Williams or Mike Hoecht. Both of them are much snappier a foot & have some skills to pressure with.

Yep, I agree.
I was sort of disappointed with Copelands play over all. I pushed him a lot for a couple of years.
I understood he was going to be a run defender first and foremost but he was just ok in that capacity in my opinion.
I am really looking forward to see if Brown can step up.
Loved that draft pick especially where he was drafted.

 

[ottoman89]

Watching a video with AD, he said his plan was always to play 8 years and leave the game, but it just so happened that his 8th year he won a SB.

 

[Neil039]

Watching a video with AD, he said his plan was always to play 8 years and leave the game, but it just so happened that his 8th year he won a SB.

He listed his house for sale today. Hope its for an up grade!

 

[ottoman89]

He listed his house for sale today. Hope its for an up grade!

That fat new contract needs a house upgrade!

 

[Merlin]

He listed his house for sale today. Hope its for an up grade!

That is interesting.

 

[Loyal]

That is interesting.

People are worried about his relocation to St Louis....