I feel dirty

[Kupped]

Dude, again, you get lost in the nuances. I bagged on Morris, and even mcvay at times when the play calling OBVIOUSLY cost games, but I'm always looking to praise them when they make the adjustments that have proven benefits.

They're not perfect and many times the sideline adrenaline gets a coach twisted. Even mcvay admitted that after the SB loss to the pats.

Mcvay is great but he's young, and when I hear Warner, Aikman, and Romo say the defense is playing too soft and that Brady is licking his chops seeing a prevent all the way down the field to the winning td, I'm gonna lean their way, especially when I'm seeing the very same thing as the rams Lose the game.

I mean really, how do you defend that? Oh, those guys don't know what they're talking about? Yeah, except it played out the exact way they predicted and I'm not going to ignore that.

last year, the rams played from behind in the playoffs and the superbowl but a key factor in their championship run was playing aggressive defense, which I loved.

But you are going to ignore the fact that they have Kendrick.. who we've seen lit up multiple times downfield... Rapp.. who can't cover.. Scott.. who does fairly well if paired with a better safety who's responsible for calls... Long who's half-decent once in a while and is undersized.. maybe you missed when they pressed with him.. the Cards went right at him and beat him over the top... Hill.. who is a decent zone corner..
They don't have a pass rush on top of all that.

Again.. you think I'm ignoring the results.. I'm not. I'm just pointing out that it could be much worse if you decide to play press with *that* group of defensive backs. The defense is designed to keep games close.. and it has.. but they blew it last week at the end, for sure.

And players were covered in different parts of that drive against Seattle.. and the Seahawk players made better plays.

Who is ignoring what?

 

[Kupped]

You overlook the fact that he played the defense differently in the playoffs than he did at the beginning of last season and this season. He played aggressively in the playoffs and returned to his overly soft prevent defense as his base defense this year. He's playing guys in the few times he calls man coverage who aren't suitable in that style of play. He has two better options to Hill, Kenrick and Long who are zone CBs. Only long has the speed to play man, but he has always struggled to play that style. Rochell and Durant are far better options in man coverage than Long and especially Kendrick who has proven time and again this season he lacks the speed to play that style. So explain why as a DC Morris doesn't see that? Either he doesn't know his players or it's as was the complaint in Atlanta they aren't his guys, i.e. his buddies. It's the problem when a DC socializes with certain members of his unit and not others. It leads to the perception of favoritism which from what I've heard was the same in Atlanta as it is here. It's why in the military officers and enlisted are separated. You can't make objective decisions when some are friends and others aren't. Kendrick is athletically limited and Morris turns a blind eye. It's no different when all this time McVay turned a blind eye to Wolford's limitations. I'm no coach but even I could see it.

Um. No, I didn't ignore that.

I've pointed out... many, many, many, many times that they played differently.
They had a pass rush.. at least one real corner besides Ramsey.. and better safeties next to Scott and Rapp.
It's a very different group this year.

You think you can evaluate the current players better than McVay and Morris. Fine. I'd disagree with that.

You want to get into weird personality stuff... when we watched Morris lead the D last year.. and he played a key support role for McVay. Morris and his weird personality were able to convince Weddle to come back last year. Morris and his weird personality coalesced that defense down the stretch.

Again.. this basically boils down to the critics here thinking they know the Rams personnel better than the Rams do.

 

[wolfdogg]

But you are going to ignore the fact that they have Kendrick.. who we've seen lit up multiple times downfield... Rapp.. who can't cover.. Scott.. who does fairly well if paired with a better safety who's responsible for calls... Long who's half-decent once in a while and is undersized.. maybe you missed when they pressed with him.. the Cards went right at him and beat him over the top... Hill.. who is a decent zone corner..
They don't have a pass rush on top of all that.

Again.. you think I'm ignoring the results.. I'm not. I'm just pointing out that it could be much worse if you decide to play press with *that* group of defensive backs. The defense is designed to keep games close.. and it has.. but they blew it last week at the end, for sure.

And players were covered in different parts of that drive against Seattle.. and the Seahawk players made better plays.

Who is ignoring what?

Ignoring the fact that Rapp can't cover? No, that's one of the problems I have with Morris and where he puts his players. Look, he had the same guys last year and the defense got better when he made the proper adjustments. It's not hard to understand but you just keep complaining about people pointing out the flaws in the scheme.

Last years defense and this years defense, players wise, is better than the scheme. Morris has shown his scheme doesn't get the most of his players. Is there another team with 3 HOFRS at the top of their game?

 

[bubbaramfan]

 

[Ram_Rally]

Yes so agree. Hard to screw up the higher pick lol

 

[dang]

Can at least one of Rochelle, Kendrick or Durant become a quality Press CB? If so, move Ramsey to safety to pair with Scott and go FA for the other CB. Someone like Bradberry would be nice.

 

[fearsomefour]

Can we just please all agree that Spags is the devil?

 

[fearsomefour]

So basically Snead has six 6th round draft choices. This should be interesting.

He could trade down for 9 7th round picks.

 

[Kupped]

Ignoring the fact that Rapp can't cover? No, that's one of the problems I have with Morris and where he puts his players. Look, he had the same guys last year and the defense got better when he made the proper adjustments. It's not hard to understand but you just keep complaining about people pointing out the flaws in the scheme.

Last years defense and this years defense, players wise, is better than the scheme. Morris has shown his scheme doesn't get the most of his players. Is there another team with 3 HOFRS at the top of their game?

The Rams defense didn’t make big adjustments with Rapp last year.

You might want to check that.

Also… same guys?
Darious Williams, Jordan Fuller and then Eric Weddle in playoffs.

VON MILLER.. Obo & Sebastian Joseph Day.

I’m sorry… once you go “same guys”, there’s not much left to talk about.

 

[PARAM]

McVay doesn't know defense and doesn't watch the film?

 

[Kupped]

McVay doesn't know defense and doesn't watch the film?

I don’t know the tone, so forgive the response…
This reminds me that McVay knew exactly what he wanted to do on defense and got a no-name.. Staley.

We’re to think he’s not involved in big decisions like personnel and concepts?

 

[PARAM]

I don’t know the tone, so forgive the response…
This reminds me that McVay knew exactly what he wanted to do on defense and got a no-name.. Staley.

We’re to think he’s not involved in big decisions like personnel and concepts?

For almost two years, I've been reading what a failure Morris has been as a defensive coordinator. I've read the scheme is wrong, the players strengths are being ignored and their weaknesses exposed and it's costing the Rams. I remember when McVay took the job, he impressed defensive players so much, they spoke to his capacity to coach defense if he wanted to. So I ask, can't he see what's wrong? Doesn't he see it on film? Why hasn't he done something?And it's not like we have a bunch of shrinking violets on that side of the ball.....Ramsey, Donald, Wagner......who would keep their mouths shut while the scheme was faulty and their talents wasted. I read they love Morris so I guess he's a snake charmer? He knows little about defense, has installed a terrible scheme, can't coach situationally, misuses the personel and nobody.....not the capable head coach or any of the volatile stars will say anything? It's not like we're getting away with it and are 9-3. I don't get it.

 

[Tano]

For almost two years, I've been reading what a failure Morris has been as a defensive coordinator. I've read the scheme is wrong, the players strengths are being ignored and their weaknesses exposed and it's costing the Rams. I remember when McVay took the job, he impressed defensive players so much, they spoke to his capacity to coach defense if he wanted to. So I ask, can't he see what's wrong? Doesn't he see it on film? Why hasn't he done something?And it's not like we have a bunch of shrinking violets on that side of the ball.....Ramsey, Donald, Wagner......who would keep their mouths shut while the scheme was faulty and their talents wasted. I read they love Morris so I guess he's a snake charmer? He knows little about defense, has installed a terrible scheme, can't coach situationally, misuses the personel and nobody.....not the capable head coach or any of the volatile stars will say anything? It's not like we're getting away with it and are 9-3. I don't get it.

Morris must be like Hoover - has a secret file on everybody on the Rams

 

[majrleaged]

The reason we won the superbowl was because Morris was more aggressive in the playoffs and against cinci.

As soon as I saw 5 and 6 man fronts early in the nfc championship game I knew it was different. In the 2 seasonal losses we used 4 man fronts and got run over. In the nfc title game rams gave up 50 yards. The difference was scheme not players.

You are caught up in thinking that criticizing the defense is saying the players aren't as good as they are but that's not what some of us are saying.

We're saying, don't play so soft, especially when Brady is on a game winning drive. Don't put Rapp in coverage. Use more 5 and 6 man fronts, etc.

We had these Sam discussions last year when the Rams played basically prevent defense in their losses, but alot of us here gave props to Morris as he tweaked his scheme to be more aggressive.

It's the same this year.

Exactly, nothing has changed from last year, except we had a better Offense, one that had more 80+ yard drives than any other offense last year. Then after the last game of the season, Morris changed it up and had the D play more aggressive. He only did that when he had Miller and Wettle. So the only personnel good enough to do that includes Miller and Wettle other wise the D personnel is lacking?

 

[Kupped]

Exactly, nothing has changed from last year, except we had a better Offense, one that had more 80+ yard drives than any other offense last year. Then after the last game of the season, Morris changed it up and had the D play more aggressive. He only did that when he had Miller and Wettle. So the only personnel good enough to do that includes Miller and Wettle other wise the D personnel is lacking?

Weddle, Miller, Darious Williams, and Obo.

And.. No big.. they lost a Hall of Fame pass rusher who was absolutely dominant in the playoffs and one of the smartest safeties to play in the last 15 years.

They also don't have Jordan Fuller.. who is better than Rapp or Scott.

They added Wagner.. and that's reflected in their great performance against the run.

 

[Tano]

Exactly, nothing has changed from last year, except we had a better Offense, one that had more 80+ yard drives than any other offense last year. Then after the last game of the season, Morris changed it up and had the D play more aggressive. He only did that when he had Miller and Wettle. So the only personnel good enough to do that includes Miller and Wettle other wise the D personnel is lacking?

Yeah that just drives me nuts

So he has to have two of best pass rushers a hof CB and a hof Safety to play his defense agressively

Really?

To be fair, I really think he could do a good defensive job if he actually decided to play an aggressive defense

 

[So Ram]

Or I guess some people have a different opinion than you. Like buttholes, everyone's got one.

My opinion has ALWAYS been to be more aggressive on D, and only go shell in key spots for change of pace. I am a firm believer that the occasional beat is outweighed by short drives and turnovers from aggressive play. ESPECIALLY when your lack of tackling gives up the big plays anyway, and tires the D in the process.

Again, my opinion.

So yes, I am NOT a fan of Raheem, and if truth be told I feel the only reason he was part of that SB run was the light went on for him. Wish it stayed on.

WEAK!!! If your opinion is guilt then The Truth is getting butthole all over your face imo.
Must stink especially if it’s dark & pink inside. That’s not my place.

I would say if you’re a Raheem Morris hater there is a post for that. So sort of stinks you went there imo.

If the question is wanting a better draft pick then that is the side that makes it tolerable.

Mcvay & Morris will finish out 2022 & move on from there.I feel the pain & was upset The Rams lost. The fact it happened was 2 fold.I cheer for NFC West teams in a weird way once The Rams are out of it.I’d rather see the Hags more than the NINER’s.
Losing Jimmy G is something I don’t know how to feel? I actually HOPE they lose every game now though.Was pissed they had Jimmy G,but was actually cheering for him,so this rookie QB needs to FAIL!!

Hate Zona right now.Don’t like the Lions get a Franchise player through The Rams losing either.That will be a in your face draft pick that years to come ?

Win or lose my hope is The Rams come out of the 2022 in future seasons because of all this as a franchise.

 

[So Ram]

Weddle, Miller, Darious Williams, and Obo.

And.. No big.. they lost a Hall of Fame pass rusher who was absolutely dominant in the playoffs and one of the smartest safeties to play in the last 15 years.

They also don't have Jordan Fuller.. who is better than Rapp or Scott.

They added Wagner.. and that's reflected in their great performance against the run.

As crazy is Troy Reeder had the 3rd most tackles on defense & he made plays on 3rd downs.

 

[sjm1582002]

I don't give a Damn who the personnel are when the scheme is as predictable as a sunrise or sunset.

Any NFL caliber QB is going to be able make the correct reads in that case.

Andy Freaking Dalton went 21/25 for 260 yds and 3 td's with zero int's.

Geno "Career Backup" Smith went 29/38 for 367yds and 3 td's with 1 int (by a LB).

Below average NFL QB's can look forward to Montana/Marino like performances against our D.

Middle school defense.

 

[Kupped]

I don't give a Damn who the personnel are when the scheme is as predictable as a sunrise or sunset.

Any NFL caliber QB is going to be able make the correct reads in that case.

Andy Freaking Dalton went 21/25 for 260 yds and 3 td's with zero int's.

Geno "Career Backup" Smith went 29/38 for 367yds and 3 td's with 1 int (by a LB).

Below average NFL QB's can look forward to Montana/Marino like performances against our D.

Middle school defense.

Your argument would make sense if the QBs all won the same way.

They didn’t.

And, it’s a middle of the pack defense.

And.. Geno Smith was 6th in the NFL in yards & 2nd in rating.