Dare I Say.. Sign Darnold?

[Neil039]

Arm chair QB eval from a 52 year old. Sign a huge contract somewhere else in the NFC. Tie up their cap for the next few years and play mediocre in the playoffs. That is all I'm asking for...too much?

 

[dieterbrock]

With the serious lack of starting QB's in this league you guys honestly think somebody isn't going to pay Darnold to be their QB? I'd wager he gets a contract similar to what Baker got.

Baker earned that second contract with Tampa after having a really good season AND success in the playoffs, in fact had a better year than the previous season with Tom Brady. With Tampa having no other legit option at QB it was a bit surprising he didnt get more.
Minnesota gonna follow that model? I have a hard time thinking the Vikes will commit that $$ and keep McCarthy on ice another 2 years. They could see what Atlanta has to deal with after making a similar decision.
On open market? The guy has washed out with 4 teams and finally the light bulb came on? Or was it just a perfect scenario?
We'll see, there are enough dumb teams out there. If we start with the 3 Stooges of the NFL, The Raiders, The Jets and The Browns, I dont see any of them signing him. So who?

 

[Allen2McVay]

… the 3 Stooges of the NFL, The Raiders, The Jets and The Browns,

Sorry but I don’t think that’s a good analogy.

They are all Curly.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Regarding Darnold, I think he will get a fairly significant contract. Consider him to be an average-to-good NFL starting QB; and, there are not 32 of them in the NFL.

Guessing 2-4 years, and between $30-$40M per-year, with little guaranteed-$ after the 2nd year.

My opinion is not a reflection of how I feel about Darnold but the options that figure to be out there … Wilson, Fields, Garoppolo, Zach Wilson, Lance, Brissett, Mac Jones, Mariotta, Lock, Winston in Free Agency; Sanders, Ward, Dart via the Draft.

With limited options, some teams will likely view Darnold as their best available option.

 

[dieterbrock]

Regarding Darnold, I think he will get a fairly significant contract. Consider him to be an average-to-good NFL starting QB; and, there are not 32 of them in the NFL.

Guessing 2-4 years, and between $30-$40M per-year, with little guaranteed-$ after the 2nd year.

My opinion is not a reflection of how I feel about Darnold but the options that figure to be out there … Wilson, Fields, Garoppolo, Zach Wilson, Lance, Brissett, Mac Jones, Mariotta, Lock, Winston in Free Agency; Sanders, Ward, Dart via the Draft.

With limited options, some teams will likely view Darnold as their best available option.

Your post kind of contradicts itself. While I agree those options arent attractive, I also dont think any of those options will be signing any significant deal.
IMO, the only way he gets 30-40 mill is if he re-signs with Minnesota, and thats the dilemma for the Vikings.
If they dont re-sign him, I dont see any way he gets that money.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Your post kind of contradicts itself. While I agree those options arent attractive, I also dont think any of those options will be signing any significant deal.
IMO, the only way he gets 30-40 mill is if he re-signs with Minnesota, and thats the dilemma for the Vikings.
If they dont re-sign him, I dont see any way he gets that money.

They have a cheap rookie QB. They can afford to sign Darnold on a short deal.

But we really don’t know what their plan is with McCarthy. If they think the injury set him back far enough and he needs a fully healthy season to learn the offense, then signing Darnold for a year or two makes a lot of sense.

 

[dieterbrock]

They have a cheap rookie QB. They can afford to sign Darnold on a short deal.

But we really don’t know what their plan is with McCarthy. If they think the injury set him back far enough and he needs a fully healthy season to learn the offense, then signing Darnold for a year or two makes a lot of sense.

Makes sense for both sides

 

[Allen2McVay]

Your post kind of contradicts itself.

Indeed.
Ever hear of a Riddle wrapped in a Mystery, inside an Enigma?
That’s Me!!!

While I agree those options arent attractive, I also dont think any of those options will be signing any significant deal.

Seriously though, while I agree none of them get a significant deal, none of those options had a season like Darnold just did.

IMO, the only way he gets 30-40 mill is if he re-signs with Minnesota, and thats the dilemma for the Vikings.
If they dont re-sign him, I dont see any way he gets that money.

Here is where we disagree.

I don’t see MN resigning Darnold. Never did. Thought they would Franchise him to trade him for some return less than the typical two first round picks.

Let Darnold and teams know they would accept less. Allow Darnold options but recoup some assets for allowing Darnold to leave.

THAT was Before the past two games. Now it would be risky because Darnold might just sign the franchise tag.

 

[dieterbrock]

Here is where we disagree.

I don’t see MN resigning Darnold. Never did. Thought they would Franchise him to trade him for some return less than the typical two first round picks.

Let Darnold and teams know they would accept less. Allow Darnold options but recoup some assets for allowing Darnold to leave.

THAT was Before the past two games. Now it would be risky because Darnold might just sign the franchise tag.

I dont think Darnold has any significant value on an open market. He found the perfect spot in Minnesota and they let him walk? And then looking at the league, what team is out there who would be a fit? The way I see it, it would have to be a team who thinks they could challenge for the playoffs with a solid QB.
Pittsburgh? Hmmm.... that actually could be a fit, gives Tomlin his last shot
Tennessee? Hmmm.... Callahan off Zac Taylor tree, similar system to Minnesota, could be similar to Tomlin, Callahan needs things to change quick
Raiders? I just cant see Brady backing this
Giants? Hmmm.... Daboll push all his cards to the center of the table for him?
Ok, now I'm the one contradicting myself. I suppose there are always desperate teams reaching. I think the Pittsburgh thing or even the Giants could actually have legs

 

[Corbin]

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Cowherd seems to think he will get a contract in the range of 3 years for $100m, like Mayfield.

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With the serious lack of starting QB's in this league you guys honestly think somebody isn't going to pay Darnold to be their QB? I'd wager he gets a contract similar to what Baker got.

I agree. Also Baker had a small window of McVay rebuild. Darnold meanwhile joins a small group of QBs who can say they put up a 14 win season. That shit ain't easy. And it speaks to him putting together a lot of consistency behind center, which means he had to have worked his ass off to do that.

Even with the quality of team around him that win total, in that division, is meaningful. No team is going to pay him top money now. And I think that's a good thing for everyone involved lol.

Baker earned that second contract with Tampa after having a really good season AND success in the playoffs, in fact had a better year than the previous season with Tom Brady. With Tampa having no other legit option at QB it was a bit surprising he didnt get more.
Minnesota gonna follow that model? I have a hard time thinking the Vikes will commit that $$ and keep McCarthy on ice another 2 years. They could see what Atlanta has to deal with after making a similar decision.
On open market? The guy has washed out with 4 teams and finally the light bulb came on? Or was it just a perfect scenario?
We'll see, there are enough dumb teams out there. If we start with the 3 Stooges of the NFL, The Raiders, The Jets and The Browns, I dont see any of them signing him. So who?

Regarding Darnold, I think he will get a fairly significant contract. Consider him to be an average-to-good NFL starting QB; and, there are not 32 of them in the NFL.

Guessing 2-4 years, and between $30-$40M per-year, with little guaranteed-$ after the 2nd year.

My opinion is not a reflection of how I feel about Darnold but the options that figure to be out there … Wilson, Fields, Garoppolo, Zach Wilson, Lance, Brissett, Mac Jones, Mariotta, Lock, Winston in Free Agency; Sanders, Ward, Dart via the Draft.

With limited options, some teams will likely view Darnold as their best available option.

The question originally was he a $50 million a year QB and that answer even before his last two games was no. Someone more than likely is going to pony up a Baker like deal. I'm really think the Raiders would have been a 90% shoe in but think Brady running football ops will have something to say about that.

 

[Allen2McVay]

The question originally was he a $50 million a year QB and that answer even before his last two games was no. Someone more than likely is going to pony up a Baker like deal. I'm really think the Raiders would have been a 90% shoe in but think Brady running football ops will have something to say about that.

Normally, I don’t mind being lumped-in with other posters on a response post like yours above.

However, I’m not pleased in this instance, given the unsavory characters listed above.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Tennessee feels like a great place for him. Teams are always needing QBs.

Raiders need to do something this year, you can't field an O'Connell/Minshew QB room again. I would think they'd want to address it in the draft, but QB class isn't all that great this year. I know the narrative is that Brady will run a sound Football Op there in Vegas, but you have to do something.

 

[AZRams]

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[OldSchool]

The question originally was he a $50 million a year QB and that answer even before his last two games was no. Someone more than likely is going to pony up a Baker like deal. I'm really think the Raiders would have been a 90% shoe in but think Brady running football ops will have something to say about that.

Imo before the last 2 games he would have been signed for lose to that. Please note don't and did t feel he was worth that.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Your post kind of contradicts itself. While I agree those options arent attractive, I also dont think any of those options will be signing any significant deal.
IMO, the only way he gets 30-40 mill is if he re-signs with Minnesota, and thats the dilemma for the Vikings.
If they dont re-sign him, I dont see any way he gets that money.

Gotta disagree here. If Daniel Jones got 40 mil, wouldn't surprise me if Darnold got similar when the rate of pay has gone up for QBs.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Tennessee feels like a great place for him. Teams are always needing QBs.

Raiders need to do something this year, you can't field an O'Connell/Minshew QB room again. I would think they'd want to address it in the draft, but QB class isn't all that great this year. I know the narrative is that Brady will run a sound Football Op there in Vegas, but you have to do something.

Not sure if the Titans will since I see them drafting Cam Ward from Miami at number #1 overall in the draft. The Raiders might do it though, but that depends on the head coach's opinion on Darnold since I'm sure the new coach would love nothing more than to pick their own QB.

 

[Neil039]

Your post kind of contradicts itself. While I agree those options arent attractive, I also dont think any of those options will be signing any significant deal.
IMO, the only way he gets 30-40 mill is if he re-signs with Minnesota, and thats the dilemma for the Vikings.
If they dont re-sign him, I dont see any way he gets that money.

~ @Allen2McVay I never contradict myself, I am the contradiction!

 

[Merlin]

Tennessee feels like a great place for him. Teams are always needing QBs.

Raiders need to do something this year, you can't field an O'Connell/Minshew QB room again. I would think they'd want to address it in the draft, but QB class isn't all that great this year. I know the narrative is that Brady will run a sound Football Op there in Vegas, but you have to do something.

Yep supply and demand is real at QB. There are multiple teams who are not going to turn their noses up at a bridge QB they can get to the playoffs with. Titans, Raiders, Colts, Browns, Steelers, etc., etc., etc.

I think Eisen was the one who said all that's occurred here is he took the elite money argument from his agent. So where it lands from there who knows, but in a strange way this is good for Darnold because he would have shit the bed with top money pay. I suspect it would have fucked with his head. Stay hungry young padawan. Allow the team you sign with to have money left over, that benefits you as well.

 

[Neil039]

Not sure if the Titans will since I see them drafting Cam Ward from Miami at number #1 overall in the draft. The Raiders might do it though, but that depends on the head coach's opinion on Darnold since I'm sure the new coach would love nothing more than to pick their own QB.

You nailed it, all depends on who the Raiders (Markie Boy) picks to be HC. With Brady in the fold you have to believe it won't be to crazy, RIGHT???

 

[Neil039]

Yep supply and demand is real at QB. There are multiple teams who are not going to turn their noses up at a bridge QB they can get to the playoffs with. Titans, Raiders, Colts, Browns, Steelers, etc., etc., etc.

I think Eisen was the one who said all that's occurred here is he took the elite money argument from his agent. So where it lands from there who knows, but in a strange way this is good for Darnold because he would have shit the bed with top money pay. I suspect it would have fucked with his head. Stay hungry young padawan. Allow the team you sign with to have money left over, that benefits you as well.

Boy I wish I had Darnold level issues. So I might not make 200 Million but I may get 100 Million to get booed for the rookie replacement. ~ @Loyal Real World Issues