Coleman Shelton Signs with Rams

[OldSchool]

It is funny how it seems to be the same positions they do this sort of thing with, as well. Rams under McVay have won in spite of the OL not so much due to it. Title season they started slow and weren't even good at picking up stunts and the like until midseason.

Once again I think they should hire Munchak. Quit having him moonlight. Pay him well, get him in here to run the show. Create a new position called OL Overlord that slots in above our current OL Coach. Or fire said coach to make room for him.

What makes no sense is with Wendell we went for bigger and stronger OL and it worked. And now we've given up on that and resigned Shelton I just don't get it.

 

[DzRams]

What makes no sense is with Wendell we went for bigger and stronger OL and it worked. And now we've given up on that and resigned Shelton I just don't get it.

What if it means they are really down on Limmer?

 

[So Ram]

It is funny how it seems to be the same positions they do this sort of thing with, as well. Rams under McVay have won in spite of the OL not so much due to it. Title season they started slow and weren't even good at picking up stunts and the like until midseason.

Once again I think they should hire Munchak. Quit having him moonlight. Pay him well, get him in here to run the show. Create a new position called OL Overlord that slots in above our current OL Coach. Or fire said coach to make room for him.

IMO both you & Bubbaram are overreacting. Why not add Murch to the list as well as Kello.

Using Bobby Evan’s as an example is Horrible.He didn’t even finish out his 4 year contract if I remember correctly (which??).

Troy Reeder left for the Chargers & didn’t finish out his contract.IMO Jones was going to be the solution,but The Rams traded him before his 4 year contract ended & he stated over Reeder in the Superbowl.Still you can’t discount the value Troy Reeder had as a Ram.He was an overachiever who shouldn’t have been a starter.

My Point is you GUYS talk all this Freaking Madness!! ALL SHELTON did was start ALL 17 games & SNAPS for DA BEARS SO get over it !

Suggest a Costco size pack of Kleenex. Austin Blythe was the same type player.

Brian Allen is the 1 who was that player who really should’ve never been a Ram & resigning him instead of drafting a BiGGER Center like Creed & Dickerson. There were 3 other Center Guards that draft as well. That was the problem.

Resigning Tutu was a nice signing,but he should’ve never been a Ram as well.It’s this SMALLER players like trading up for Joyner & Tavon that I never understood. Tre Tomlinson just got cut,but a 5’6 CB . Really ?

Coleman Shelton is an established NFL Center. He is not a bad backup either. Swinging Limmer to guard because of his size could help The Rams from keeping SO many lineman if the roster.That would help special teams.

 

[shovelpass]

It is funny how it seems to be the same positions they do this sort of thing with, as well. Rams under McVay have won in spite of the OL not so much due to it. Title season they started slow and weren't even good at picking up stunts and the like until midseason.

Once again I think they should hire Munchak. Quit having him moonlight. Pay him well, get him in here to run the show. Create a new position called OL Overlord that slots in above our current OL Coach. Or fire said coach to make room for him.

I think having consistency and health early on would go along way into getting the unit starting fast.

Wendell took over in '23:
LT- Camp battle between Noteboom and Jackson. Jackson wins, previous year Noteboom.

LG- Drafted Avila, replacing Edwards.

C- Camp battle between Shelton and Allen. Shelton wins, previous year Allen.

RG- Noteboom takes over. By week 2 he's missing time. Dotson takes over by week 4.

'24:
LT- Alaric misses the first two games. Had an ankle injury in TC.

LG/C- Tried slotting Jonah at LG, and Avila at C. A week or 2 before the regular season they swap. Jonah had an injury in TC as well. Only plays the first 2 games. Avila leaves week 1.

RG- Dotson ankle injury week 1, plays through.

RT- Havs missed all of August, and week 1, with an ankle injury.

This season it's looking like at least 4 starters are in place. Hopefully they make it to the regular season healthy.

 

[OldSchool]

What if it means they are really down on Limmer?

Then draft somebody don't over pay for a mediocre at best center who you had and got rid of. The Rams wanted to go with a better OL like the Lions did. So what happened with the Bears when Johnson went there? They replaced Coleman. It makes zero sense.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Shelton is a desperation signing, only because of his familiarity with Stafford and system.

Just like why they kept Noteboom, Reeder and Bobby Evans. Drives me crazy why they keep players not worth a damn.

If you listen to JB Long, it sounds like the Rams really wanted Shelton back. He seems to think the entire Oline played better with Shelton making the calls.

 

[DzRams]

Then draft somebody don't over pay for a mediocre at best center who you had and got rid of. The Rams wanted to go with a better OL like the Lions did. So what happened with the Bears when Johnson went there? They replaced Coleman. It makes zero sense.

I'm not overwhelmed with this signing myself. I think they like his mental acuity and want him to help Stafford with the line calls. If that's the thought process they need a vet, not another rookie who's prone to mental mistakes like Limmer was last year.

I also don't believe they wanted him to leave last year. It didn't sound like they were trying to replace him

 

[WestCoastRam]

I'm not overwhelmed with this signing myself. I think they like his mental acuity and want him to help Stafford with the line calls. If that's the thought process they need a vet, not another rookie who's prone to mental mistakes like Limmer was last year.

I also don't believe they wanted him to leave last year. It didn't sound like they were trying to replace him

I think Jourdan mentioned once that Rams have a cap on what they'll pay at Center, it's one of their less important positions and they wanted to keep Shelton but he wanted to test market and they didn't want to be caught flat footed with him most likely signing for more money so they pivoted to Plan B which was paying for a guard and moving a cost controlled Avila to center.

 

[DzRams]

I think Jourdan mentioned once that Rams have a cap on what they'll pay at Center, it's one of their less important positions and they wanted to keep Shelton but he wanted to test market and they didn't want to be caught flat footed with him most likely signing for more money so they pivoted to Plan B which was paying for a guard and moving a cost controlled Avila to center.

Turns out that was a mistake. They probably could have just waited and gotten him back.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Y'all can defend Shelton all you want, but I've watched every Ram game he's played in and he sucks as a pass blocker. I've seen him overpowered and pushed back into the pocket time and time again.

Bears got rid of him because the same happened there.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Y'all can defend Shelton all you want, but I've watched every Ram game he's played in and he sucks as a pass blocker. I've seen him overpowered and pushed back into the pocket time and time again.

Bears got rid of him because the same happened there.

I don't know that anyones defending him (christ, I'm not going back through this thread), we're just pointing out why Rams seem to want him.

Ideally, Limmer ascends and it's not an issue but I see their plan. Just like, I'm not in love with the Tutu signing but I see their plan and it was necessary for where they were ahead of FA and what they ideally want to get to on offense.

Best part about being a Rams fans since McVay took over is that I've always been able to see a plan in place even if I haven't agreed with it.

Can you imagine being a Saints fan or Raiders fan? Constantly mystified at what the plan is going forward. (Though Raiders have a shot now to turn things in the right direction).

 

[Allen2McVay]

I've seen him overpowered and pushed back into the pocket time and time again.

That's not good. Not good at all.

But it is better than letting the opponent's best defensive player run un-blocked to the quarterback on the most critical play of the the season.

 

[OldSchool]

That's not good. Not good at all.

But it is better than letting the opponent's best defensive player run un-blocked to the quarterback on the most critical play of the the season.

No it's not. Limmer and Dotson made a mistake. Shelton will give up the same sack when trying to actually block him and get overpowered.

 

[Tumak61]

If Shelton isn't a good Center no way McVay would want him back, unless the plan is to mentor Limmer then release Shelton at some point. I don't think that's it. Snead and McVay obviously like Shelton.

 

[OldSchool]

If Shelton isn't a good Center no way McVay would want him back, unless the plan is to mentor Limmer then release Shelton at some point. I don't think that's it. Snead and McVay obviously like Shelton.

They obviously liked Noteboom too.

 

[Merlin]

What makes no sense is with Wendell we went for bigger and stronger OL and it worked. And now we've given up on that and resigned Shelton I just don't get it.

Yeah. Well we have had shitty decision making wrt our OL for years under McVay. Head shaking stuff, them prioritizing dudes based on how much the staff likes to joke with them in the OL room or something moreso than how well they play on the field. It's fucking infuriating. That's what it is.

Not that I'm infuriated by Shelton's return. But that is because I think Limmer will be the starter. I just think it is time McVay quit moonlighting with Munchak and make the dude a Ram OL lead. I want all that expertise and experience in-house so we can start being smart with this shit. Also I want a fast start to the season, and with McVay resting everyone in preseason he could really use that expertise on his staff.

 

[Allen2McVay]

No it's not. Limmer and Dotson made a mistake. Shelton will give up the same sack when trying to actually block him and get overpowered.

Sure it is.

Limmer and Dotson's combined Brain Fart gave the Eagles' best defender a clean, short run for a critical sack.

If either had simply stood in front of Carter and been over-powered ... THAT ... would have been much better because that extra second could have made all the difference in the world.

 

[dang]

Sure it is.

Limmer and Dotson's combined Brain Fart gave the Eagles' best defender a clean, short run for a critical sack.

If either had simply stood in front of Carter and been over-powered ... THAT ... would have been much better because that extra second could have made all the difference in the world.

My way of dealing with that loss was that while the Rams showed a lot of fight and potential, their glory was going to be in the coming years. I truly believe that with health, another good draft and one more explosive offensive weapon they can win the Super Bowl next year.

 

[OldSchool]

Sure it is.

Limmer and Dotson's combined Brain Fart gave the Eagles' best defender a clean, short run for a critical sack.

If either had simply stood in front of Carter and been over-powered ... THAT ... would have been much better because that extra second could have made all the difference in the world.

My point is Shelton doesn't need a brain fart to do that.

 

[Allen2McVay]

My point is Shelton doesn't need a brain fart to do that.

And ... my point is ... there IS a Difference between NOT even Trying to put a body on Jalen Carter vs. Knowing they have to at least try to block Carter ... and ... Actually Placing their body in front of the man.

The difference may only be a second but that can be THE DIFFERENCE in how the play ends up.