Cam Akers

[So Ram]

I like Montgomery. I just don't get the sense that McVay will want to throw money at him. He's a good runner and receiver, but he's not fast and has a lot of mileage on his legs.

Well let’s have the discussion.
I’ve been a Rams fan for a long time. I also understand the basic structure & reality of building a team & the salary cap.

Unbelievable how The Rams have structure The Cap AWESOMELY is AMAZING!

I’ll start from there & say Let’s Go!! The Rams are built right.

 

[Kupped]

Cam is the starting running back next season, most likely. Two more solid games will lock it up, I think.
Williams looks like a smart back who's strong for his size.. small and sneaky.
They are a good starting point.. I think it's time to move on from Malcolm... there are multiple vets out there who can just get you some yards.. shit, look at Latavious Murray.

And.. I want them to draft a size/speed prospect in the late rounds.

 

[jrry32]

Less expensive and less mileage than any of the other names I'm hearing here would be D'Ernest Johnson, the Cleveland reserve RB whom the Rams and a few other teams were trying to trade for according to the media just prior to this seasons trade deadline. Johnson will be a free agent in 2023. Draft a big back (5'11", 224lbs.) like Kentucky's Chris Rodriguez to replace Malcolm Brown as RB3 and grab D'Ernest Johnson as a cheap free agent RB4. jmo.

Johnson is a fit. He's one of the guys on the list of possibilities. But the reason Brown is on this team is 3rd downs. McVay doesn't trust a rookie HB (K. Williams) to be the 3rd down HB this year (protections). Brown isn't here to be a power HB, so again, I doubt McVay is suddenly going to want a big back.

 

[jrry32]

Cam is the starting running back next season, most likely. Two more solid games will lock it up, I think.
Williams looks like a smart back who's strong for his size.. small and sneaky.
They are a good starting point.. I think it's time to move on from Malcolm... there are multiple vets out there who can just get you some yards.. shit, look at Latavious Murray.

And.. I want them to draft a size/speed prospect in the late rounds.

I'll be shocked if we don't bring in a HB to compete with Cam after everything that happened this year. At a minimum, if Cam has another meltdown, McVay is not going to want to be caught without an alternative. A few weeks ago, I didn't think Cam would be a Ram after the season. I now think we will keep him and let him compete for a starting role next year. But I don't see us handing him the job.

 

[So Ram]

I’ll start from what Cam Akers said after The Green Bay loss.
We will and better than what we showed.

Cam Akers was upset & took OWNERSHIP as a Ram Veteran moving forward.His relationship with Jalen is an added feature.

IMO - if we are playing fantasy & want to forecast the 2023 FA before the draft is always the way I start before projecting & figure The Rams off season & draft.
The cards fall fast so I’m throwing in my first set of cards on finding the cost of David Montgomery.

Akers
K.Williams
David Montgomery

Would be IMO a perfect RB stable for 2023 if The Rams could sign Montgomery at a reasonable price tag.

 

[Kupped]

I'll be shocked if we don't bring in a HB to compete with Cam after everything that happened this year. At a minimum, if Cam has another meltdown, McVay is not going to want to be caught without an alternative. A few weeks ago, I didn't think Cam would be a Ram after the season. I now think we will keep him and let him compete for a starting role next year. But I don't see us handing him the job.

I think McVay is putting the blame on that as much on the staff as anything else. It sounds like Samples didn't work out with that room and that they restructured the staff. I don't even think he's with the team anymore.

After his third TD.. McVay ran down the sideline and gave him a hug and chat... they're rebuilding their relationship on and off the field, imo.. and Cam is their best bet for next season, imo, with a limited amount of cap space and draft picks.

 

[So Ram]

Johnson is a fit. He's one of the guys on the list of possibilities. But the reason Brown is on this team is 3rd downs. McVay doesn't trust a rookie HB (K. Williams) to be the 3rd down HB this year (protections). Brown isn't here to be a power HB, so again, I doubt McVay is suddenly going to want a big back.

I’ll keep TELLING EVERYONE F’mmm THAT!! There is a reason Cam Akers is playing like he is & has as a RAM IMO!!!

Do The Rams bring back Malcom Brown? Like told 1 Poster who was JUST DUMB saying any of us had a much chance of being a Ram & didn’t mean much resigning as a RAM.

Malcom Brown deserves MAD RESPECT as a RAMS player. He even helped with a Comp Pick value position by signing with the Dolphins. Great locker room leader who was St. Louis Ram UDRFA.

My main point is SIZE!! That is why David Montgomery would be a Excellent Fit.

Looking at small draft picks NOW is SILLY.might as well go pick daisy’s

 

[So Ram]

I'll be shocked if we don't bring in a HB to compete with Cam after everything that happened this year. At a minimum, if Cam has another meltdown, McVay is not going to want to be caught without an alternative. A few weeks ago, I didn't think Cam would be a Ram after the season. I now think we will keep him and let him compete for a starting role next year. But I don't see us handing him the job.

Well The Rams called Cam Akers BLUFF & STAND to there believes.

If ever that claim was true it was with Cam Akers. He called The Rams & Mcvay out by talking madness.

Mcvay is a players coach & LOVES he DIVAS!! They just need to know where the Line is Drawn.

IMO Cam Akers got called out for being a WUSS? Could be about Carrie’s as well. The thin is Cam Akers has to BLOCK!!! If you can’t block you then you won’t be asked to,or put in a spot where you put a play at risk.

 

[So Ram]

To say The Rams don’t believe in Cam Akers I’d say it in his hands on what he wants.

From The way he took ownership after the Green Bay game & came out & preformed as he said he would was impressive.

I think right now going by Cam Akers play that projecting,I’d say he will be The Rams #1 RB. I can say David Montgomery would be a nice veteran RB that gives that insurance a long with Rookie RB K. Williams who didn’t even really have a true training camp.

 

[jrry32]

I think McVay is putting the blame on that as much on the staff as anything else. It sounds like Samples didn't work out with that room and that they restructured the staff. I don't even think he's with the team anymore.

After his third TD.. McVay ran down the sideline and gave him a hug and chat... they're rebuilding their relationship on and off the field, imo.. and Cam is their best bet for next season, imo, with a limited amount of cap space and draft picks.

Staff or no staff, Cam's effort level and attitude were terrible early in the season. I expect us to bring in another guy. Because Henderson is gone, we need a HB to pair with Cam anyways. They'll compete. Cam may win the job. He has been impressive of late. He's looking like rookie year Cam. But he's going to have to earn it.

 

[Kupped]

Staff or no staff, Cam's effort level and attitude were terrible early in the season. I expect us to bring in another guy. Because Henderson is gone, we need a HB to pair with Cam anyways. They'll compete. Cam may win the job. He has been impressive of late. He's looking like rookie year Cam. But he's going to have to earn it.

It's been a weird year, so I don't know.
I think the staff issue was part of it.. I think he was part of it.
I'm just going on the movement in the staff.. Samples already gone.. that there is more to it than just Cam pouting.
But.. there were some questions, it sounds like, about his effort and attitude in training camp.. and that ain't good.

Either way.. I just don't see there being the resources for a serious upgrade.. but I've been wrong plenty.

 

[Steve808]

With all the discussions/rumors about the Rams trading or releasing Cam Akers maybe he might just be worth keeping?!

What about Baker? Seems like the O line was solid today.

 

[jrry32]

It's been a weird year, so I don't know.
I think the staff issue was part of it.. I think he was part of it.
I'm just going on the movement in the staff.. Samples already gone.. that there is more to it than just Cam pouting.
But.. there were some questions, it sounds like, about his effort and attitude in training camp.. and that ain't good.

Either way.. I just don't see there being the resources for a serious upgrade.. but I've been wrong plenty.

If McVay wants to make a move, he'll find the resources. I'm confident in that. They can play around with the cap, and they've never shied away from making trades or using picks on HBs. My expectation is that we'll see them make a move for somebody.

 

[Memento]

We used a fifth on Kyren, who's biggest strengths were his receiving ability and blocking ability. IMO, McVay views him as a role player. That makes sense to me. He has a lot of upside as a 3rd down HB.


Gibson is definitely the inexpensive option. I think one of our 6ths and a 2024 5th or 6th round pick does it. He ran for 1000 yards last year. Fumbling was an issue, but it hasn't been a huge issue this year. Gibson is new to the position, as he played WR in college, so inconsistency isn't surprising. But it's hard to argue with 6'2" 220, 4.39 40, contact balance, and the ability to make sharp cuts.

He fits the McVay archetype. And I think he has been utilized poorly in Washington. You have an explosive former WR at HB, and you're not going to find a way to get him majorly involved in your passing attack? Crazy. I think he's a guy who could ascend in a major way with a creative offensive mind and more experience at the position.

I'll note again that McVay doesn't seem to want a power HB. As for Singletary, I don't see him as a fit. He doesn't offer the receiving ability or speed that McVay values. I think we'd benefit from a bruising runner, but McVay has never shown any interest in one outside of our C.J. Anderson desperation. Michel was a hard-nosed runner, but he was a guy we traded for because of Akers's unexpected injury. We didn't even try to retain him this past offseason.

If us fans were concerned about Akers fumbling, Gibson would be even worse. I won't deny his explosiveness and size, and I won't deny that Washington never used him right, but I am very concerned about ball security and consistency. There's a good possibility he doesn't pan out, that he continues having ball security issues, and I doubt he goes for only a sixth this year and a low pick next year, as he, like you said, had over 1000 yards and was a high pick by Washington's regime.

As for Singletary, I definitely see him as a fit as a smaller power back who can easily break tackles. I also think that he has untapped potential as a receiver; Buffalo never really used him as a receiver, but he did it in college. He's also likely less expensive than Pollard, wouldn't require a mid round pick like Gibson, and offers less mileage than Montgomery.

If I'm honest, though, none of them would be my ultimate choice, particularly if we can recoup a third for a Van Jefferson. My choice is Sean Tucker. Track speed, never fumbles, breaks many tackles, has great vision. Only real weakness I see is third down ability, but if he had it, he'd go in the first round. If Felix Anudike-Uzoman, Stromberg, and Schmitt are gone when we pick, I think I'd pivot to Tucker, just because of elite running back potential.

I agree with you that Akers needs competition after what he pulled early in the season. I just prefer that competition should be young and multifaceted.

 

[So Ram]

It's been a weird year, so I don't know.
I think the staff issue was part of it.. I think he was part of it.
I'm just going on the movement in the staff.. Samples already gone.. that there is more to it than just Cam pouting.
But.. there were some questions, it sounds like, about his effort and attitude in training camp.. and that ain't good.

Either way.. I just don't see there being the resources for a serious upgrade.. but I've been wrong plenty.

Cam Akers got called out & didn’t deserve to play because he couldn’t won’t pass block & wanted the ball more.

Just like D- Jackson The Rams out him on the trade block because he wanted or didn’t want to except not playing as much as he wanted to.
The thing was Cam Akers market value was CRAp!! His value as a player (drafted 53) was way to much just to cut.
Cam Akers had to readjust what he wanted as a NFL player.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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It's amazing what not getting hit 3 yards in the backfield can do for a rb.

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[So Ram]

If us fans were concerned about Akers fumbling, Gibson would be even worse. I won't deny his explosiveness and size, and I won't deny that Washington never used him right, but I am very concerned about ball security and consistency. There's a good possibility he doesn't pan out, that he continues having ball security issues, and I doubt he goes for only a sixth this year and a low pick next year, as he, like you said, had over 1000 yards and was a high pick by Washington's regime.

As for Singletary, I definitely see him as a fit as a smaller power back who can easily break tackles. I also think that he has untapped potential as a receiver; Buffalo never really used him as a receiver, but he did it in college. He's also likely less expensive than Pollard, wouldn't require a mid round pick like Gibson, and offers less mileage than Montgomery.

If I'm honest, though, none of them would be my ultimate choice, particularly if we can recoup a third for a Van Jefferson. My choice is Sean Tucker. Track speed, never fumbles, breaks many tackles, has great vision. Only real weakness I see is third down ability, but if he had it, he'd go in the first round. If Felix Anudike-Uzoman, Stromberg, and Schmitt are gone when we pick, I think I'd pivot to Tucker, just because of elite running back potential.

I agree with you that Akers needs competition after what he pulled early in the season. I just prefer that competition should be young and multifaceted.

The thing is The Rams don’t need a smaller back. Hard enough for Cam Akers to be even close to an every down back.

The Rams let HENDO go because he was no longer in their future & like we’re seeing. To know what kind of moving pieces they have on the roster.
Cam Akers & K. Williams are the Rams RB’s penciled in for 2023.

Now going younger would be your not addressing the RB position in 2023.If The Rams do it DEFEATS everything they have believed in the past.

 

[oldnotdead]

I think Cam #1, and Williams #2 and they draft a RB in the 3rd round. Why? Because they don't want a repeat of this year's Aker's fit and also better depth at the position. Also, I think they see that they need a big, fast, power RB.

A freak of a RB coming out of Texas is Roschon Johnson: 6'2", 223 lbs, runs a 4.39 in the 40, good blocker when asked to chip or pass pro, decent receiver, and doesn't fumble. Probably will be available in the 6th round.

Taking a RB like Johnson in the 6th would open the 3rd round pick for an OG/C. I still think if they don't trade for an edge they will draft on in the second round. Hoecht can play in rotation with the new guy with Hardy in rotation with Floyd.

 

[jrry32]

If us fans were concerned about Akers fumbling, Gibson would be even worse. I won't deny his explosiveness and size, and I won't deny that Washington never used him right, but I am very concerned about ball security and consistency. There's a good possibility he doesn't pan out, that he continues having ball security issues, and I doubt he goes for only a sixth this year and a low pick next year, as he, like you said, had over 1000 yards and was a high pick by Washington's regime.

He's going into his final year of his contract, Washington relegated him to a backup role, and HBs don't carry that much value these days. I'll take my chances on ball security and him not panning out. I believe in our coaches.

As for Singletary, I definitely see him as a fit as a smaller power back who can easily break tackles. I also think that he has untapped potential as a receiver; Buffalo never really used him as a receiver, but he did it in college. He's also likely less expensive than Pollard, wouldn't require a mid round pick like Gibson, and offers less mileage than Montgomery.

Buffalo keeps drafting and trading for other HBs to use as their receiving backs, so I don't get the warm and fuzzies about Singletary as a receiver. And as I said, I don't see him as a fit. His skillset isn't one that McVay has typically pursued.

If I'm honest, though, none of them would be my ultimate choice, particularly if we can recoup a third for a Van Jefferson. My choice is Sean Tucker. Track speed, never fumbles, breaks many tackles, has great vision. Only real weakness I see is third down ability, but if he had it, he'd go in the first round. If Felix Anudike-Uzoman, Stromberg, and Schmitt are gone when we pick, I think I'd pivot to Tucker, just because of elite running back potential.

We're not getting a third for Van Jefferson. He hasn't done enough to garner that sort of return.

I agree with you that Akers needs competition after what he pulled early in the season. I just prefer that competition should be young and multifaceted.

We're mostly in agreement then. I just don't see McVay breaking with his history. The guy has a type at HB. I don't necessarily think it's the optimal type for our system, but he's the HC and gets to make that call. I actually preferred both Montgomery and Singletary to Darrell Henderson when we drafted him.

But Henderson was McVay's type of HB. He was an explosive and fast one-cut runner who flashed a lot of upside as a receiver in college. He didn't pan out in the way we hoped he would, but McVay hasn't shown any interest in receding from pursuing that type of HB. Akers had a similar skillset (not quite as fast but more dynamic as a runner). And McCaffrey obviously offers that sort of skillset (explosive, fast, and dynamic one-cut runner with elite receiving ability).

So I'm trying to keep that in mind when offering up guys I think we will pursue. Tucker and Gibbs do fit the bill in the Draft. And McVay does have a penchant for spending premium picks on HBs. But I get the feeling this year that we'll look to fill that hole before the Draft.

Anyways, hope you're enjoying the holidays, Jemma!

 

[Memento]

He's going into his final year of his contract, Washington relegated him to a backup role, and HBs don't carry that much value these days. I'll take my chances on ball security and him not panning out. I believe in our coaches.


Buffalo keeps drafting and trading for other HBs to use as their receiving backs, so I don't get the warm and fuzzies about Singletary as a receiver. And as I said, I don't see him as a fit. His skillset isn't one that McVay has typically pursued.


We're not getting a third for Van Jefferson. He hasn't done enough to garner that sort of return.


We're mostly in agreement then. I just don't see McVay breaking with his history. The guy has a type at HB. I don't necessarily think it's the optimal type for our system, but he's the HC and gets to make that call. I actually preferred both Montgomery and Singletary to Darrell Henderson when we drafted him.

But Henderson was McVay's type of HB. He was an explosive and fast one-cut runner who flashed a lot of upside as a receiver in college. He didn't pan out in the way we hoped he would, but McVay hasn't shown any interest in receding from pursuing that type of HB. Akers had a similar skillset (not quite as fast but more dynamic as a runner). And McCaffrey obviously offers that sort of skillset (explosive, fast, and dynamic one-cut runner with elite receiving ability).

So I'm trying to keep that in mind when offering up guys I think we will pursue. Tucker and Gibbs do fit the bill in the Draft. And McVay does have a penchant for spending premium picks on HBs. But I get the feeling this year that we'll look to fill that hole before the Draft.

Anyways, hope you're enjoying the holidays, Jemma!

Disagree on Jefferson. He nearly eclipsed 900 yards and had eight touchdowns with Stafford in a number three wide receiver role last year. There's got to be at least one team who would take a chance on him for a third round pick; teams would feel like he'd make an excellent number two receiver. Add in that Atwell is likely the deep threat role next year and with Kupp and Robinson coming back, we won't need Jefferson (even when you consider that they very well could move Skowronek to tight end full time; he's already an HB in name and usage. And yes, I'm saying that because I have still have a bit of faith in Jacob Harris or Lance McCutcheon (or whatever wide receiver we draft next year because McVay always drafts receivers whenever he can get them. My personal preference for McVay's latest receiver? Zakhari Franklin; this kid is seriously one of the best route runners in this class.)

That's a fair point on Gibson, but he's still not the type of back I'd pursue with his inconsistency and fumble issues. If we absolutely had the money to go for a running back, I'd take Pollard, but I think Dallas re-signs him and cuts Zeke. That, or he'll cost an absolute fortune on the open market. That's why I think we draft a running back highly; I bet that McVay wants a younger back with the traits he values. I just think he values ball security, which is why I don't think Gibson is the answer.

Gibbs is easily a first round pick. We're not getting him or Bijan Robinson. That's why Tucker's my favorite back in this class; I think he's the best running back who will fall to us. I think McVay drafts a running back highly; like I said, I doubt we get Pollard, I'm hesitant on Gibson, and Akers needs to embrace competition, and he's on the last year of his contract.