Bobby Wagner Released

[ottoman89]

One less suitor for Wagner?


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That was my first thought. Maybe they know they're out of it?

 

[Mackeyser]

Looks like Wagner's pool of suitors is dwindling...

 

[dieterbrock]

Looks like there's some available cap space now in Rams-land....

 

[ottoman89]

Looks like there's some available cap space now in Rams-land....

I'm thinking Gilmore, Wagner, Z Smith and a S.

 

[SeminoleRam]

Looks like there's some available cap space now in Rams-land....

I realize that the Rams are looking for an Edge Player but IF Wagner is proven Healthy and he can be signed for a REASONABLE Price I really would like to see the Rams pursue him!!

 

[Neil039]

I'm thinking Gilmore, Wagner, Z Smith and a S.

You’re not one to shoot low lol

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah I’m thinking grab Wagner and then a reclamation project edge guy like Jason Pierre Paul

 

[Ram Ts]

I think Wagner only happens if he’s willing to take the Rams low cost offer. MiLB is just not something they spend on. I’m sure they want him - but only at their (low) value.

 

[ottoman89]

You’re not one to shoot low lol

Hell no! As I said "If you ain't overpaying, you ain't trying"

 

[Loyal]

Overpaying in FA seems to be the rule, unless it’s for Robert Woods….

 

[dieterbrock]

I think Wagner only happens if he’s willing to take the Rams low cost offer. MiLB is just not something they spend on. I’m sure they want him - but only at their (low) value.

I don’t know if IMLB is something they don’t choose to pay for or just that they haven’t felt a sufficient need with an available player.
IIRC, they paid Laurenitis pretty well and though it was prior to McVay, Sneed was around.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

I'm thinking Gilmore, Wagner, Z Smith and a S.

 

[F. Mulder]

I’m much higher on Wagner than over paying for one of the aging and fleeting Outside LBers/Edges still out there. I know the edge players get the glory sometimes but Wagner is a professional. He doesn’t miss assignments, he is an excellent tackler and can cover. He would be a plus in the locker room. He would help mentor someone like E Jones. He would have uber motivation given his release. I think he would very much elevate this defense overall.

 

[ottoman89]

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Shiiiiit, if ain't mine!

 

[shovelpass]

I don’t know if IMLB is something they don’t choose to pay for or just that they haven’t felt a sufficient need with an available player.
IIRC, they paid Laurenitis pretty well and though it was prior to McVay, Sneed was around.

They gave Ogletree a good contract under McVay, then traded him the following off-season. I think with Wagner being a proven talent they might be willing to spend more.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

You’re not one to shoot low lol

It's good to want it all. Make it happen Snead and we'll all have major woods that will also ironically make us forgive you for trading Woods hahaha

 

[jjab360]

Overpaying in FA seems to be the rule, unless it’s for Robert Woods….

Funnily enough when we signed him a lot of people thought we overpaid due to his numbers in Buffalo. Turns out we underpaid by a lot, great job by the scouting department there.

 

[BonifayRam]

They gave Ogletree a good contract under McVay, then traded him the following off-season. I think with Wagner being a proven talent they might be willing to spend more.

Very true that is a fact, however, Snead/McVay quickly changed their minds on that decision in less than 6 months into that big contract & traded that contract & Ogletree away. The Rams have never signed a large/ medium size contract pure UFA MLB/ILB since.

Back in 2015 before McVay Rams traded for Safety Mark Barron who eventually later signed a new big contract & started for Snead/McVay @ the weakside ILB'er post for 2 seasons before being released. In 2019 they signed Clay Mathews who played both OLB & ILB some. He played for only one season & retired.

Rams appear to prefer to draft or sign UDFA's to groom their ILB'ers. Rams since 2017 have drafted 4 ILB'ers though. Jones 3rd rd, Howard 7th rd, Kizer 5th rd & Johnston 7rd. Plus they traded for Kenny Young then traded him ways again the next season. Young is presently a UFA today.

I see the Rams ILB'er posts as finished. 2022 starting ILB'ers will be Jones/Howard with Rapp/Rozeboom as the main reliefs. I expect Taylor Rapp (who DC Morris loves & is the team's highest paid safety ) to see an abundance of defensive snaps @ ILB. Travin Howard can play both ILB'er posts as well as 3rd yr ILB'er Christain Rozeboom....along with newly signed hybrid SS/ILB'er Antoine Brooks Jr.

 

[FarNorth]

Very true that is a fact, however, Snead/McVay quickly changed their minds on that decision in less than 6 months into that big contract & traded that contract & Ogletree away. The Rams have never signed a large/ medium size contract pure UFA MLB/ILB since.

Back in 2015 before McVay Rams traded for Safety Mark Barron who eventually later signed a new big contract & started for Snead/McVay @ the weakside ILB'er post for 2 seasons before being released. In 2019 they signed Clay Mathews who played both OLB & ILB some. He played for only one season & retired.

Rams appear to prefer to draft or sign UDFA's to groom their ILB'ers. Rams since 2017 have drafted 4 ILB'ers though. Jones 3rd rd, Howard 7th rd, Kizer 5th rd & Johnston 7rd. Plus they traded for Kenny Young then traded him ways again the next season. Young is presently a UFA today.

It's my belief that the Rams have already decided on their 2022 starting ILB'ers Jones/Howard with Rozeboom as the main relief. I expect that 2019 top draft pick Taylor Rapp (who DC Morris loves) will continue to also see an abundance of defensive snaps @ ILBler as in the past 2 seasons along with newly signed Antoine Brooks Jr.

Ogletree was a 1st round draft pick by the Rams and at least a credible player. Just one of a number of big contracts Rams have given to players under McVay and Snead only to reverse course and cut or trade them. More understandable in McVay's first year though.

 

[So Ram]

Very true that is a fact, however, Snead/McVay quickly changed their minds on that decision in less than 6 months into that big contract & traded that contract & Ogletree away. The Rams have never signed a large/ medium size contract pure UFA MLB/ILB since.

Back in 2015 before McVay Rams traded for Safety Mark Barron who eventually later signed a new big contract & started for Snead/McVay @ the weakside ILB'er post for 2 seasons before being released. In 2019 they signed Clay Mathews who played both OLB & ILB some. He played for only one season & retired.

Rams appear to prefer to draft or sign UDFA's to groom their ILB'ers. Rams since 2017 have drafted 4 ILB'ers though. Jones 3rd rd, Howard 7th rd, Kizer 5th rd & Johnston 7rd. Plus they traded for Kenny Young then traded him ways again the next season. Young is presently a UFA today.

It's my belief that the Rams have already decided on their 2022 starting ILB'ers Jones/Howard with Rozeboom as the main relief. I expect that 2019 top draft pick Taylor Rapp (who DC Morris loves) will continue to also see an abundance of defensive snaps @ ILBler as in the past 2 seasons along with newly signed Antoine Brooks Jr.

Not sure you got the Clay & Barron situation right.Was thinking Clay was cut & Barron was never cut?

Rozeboom was a big special teams player at the end of the season.IMO he needs to cut his hair,but that’s me.

Ernest Jones is who Raheem Morris groomed all season.I don’t recall if you had much Hate for Morris.It seemed this board was infested with it though at one point in the 2021 season.
I do know you weren’t a Fan of The Rams defensive back squad.Rapp is a player I’ve never liked that much & one of the players I trust.Goes back to that last Niners game with RAMsey.Then seeing what happened late in the season with those 2 players was concerning,but handle by Morris & The Rams the right way.
It was Morris who reached out to Eric Weedle which I honestly think was a main reason The Rams won the SuperBowl.

As far a Ernest Jones though as a Rams ILB is impressive.His age,size & draft status were in question on how much he could work in.
Very Very impressive for an undersized young player.IMO his future is so Bright. He was such a Team leader Late & got hurt.Made one of the biggest plays in the SuperBowl. His hands with a pick 6 & a couple other nice INT’s.. Then add he was given the responsibility to wear the Green Helmet.

If he can put on weight & muscle he should be able to solidify more of the run defense.He has such good instincts to get to the ball,but would get pushed back because of his young size.
Basically he would be a High Draft pick if he was coming out after a Senior Year ??