Bill Belichick not a first-ballot Hall of Famer

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CanadaRam said:
Sorry to those who do not just look at the football part of the equation.

Belichick deserves to be a first ballot hall of famer.

Did he try to cheat? Maybe, he won.

Do I hate what happened to the Rams? Absolutely. Rams deserved the SB imo.

Is Belichick one of the best HCs of all-time. Absolutely. No debate.


Evaluate on what he did in the NFL. Easy. First ballot HF.

Too many HF voters don't just look at the football part of the equation. Ridiculous.
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He was fined for cheating. Everything he ever did comes into question.
THat is how it works.
 
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PARAM said:
Pretty strong words there friend. He's done NOTHING without the GOAT QB. And with that QB, they played in the weakest division in football so they were guaranteed 5 or 6 wins every year. Plus he had to cheat multiple times to accomplish that. First ballot my ass.
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This is barely worth responding to. Find me a Hall of Fame coach who didn't have a Hall of Fame QB.

PARAM said:
On Haley, does he have three as a coach because he has 5 as a player.
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Wtf.
 
Ramrocket said:
I think the cheating scandals have bought his coaching credentials into question. People may rightly ask if he hadn’t cheated or had access to opposition game plans, would he have been so ‘successful’?

So I have no issue with that cheating baby door missing out on first ballot
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How many superbowls did the cheaters win by a FG or less? Imagine having tapes of the other team's plays? Could that have turned things in their favor in close games? Of course.

Goodell: I saw the tapes (by Matt Walsh)), but I saw no cheating so I destroyed the tapes without letting anyone else see them.

If you buy that, I have the Brooklyn bridge for sale right now.
 
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Steve808 said:
Right? Isn't that why McSnead gave up 2 first rounders plus Goff to get Stafford?
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Obviously it's an oversimplification, but every HoF coach has had rosters with multiple HoF players, many of them QBs.

It's a silly argument. "Imagine BB without Brady." Yeah, imagine Walsh without Montana, Noll without Bradshaw, Johnson without Aikman, Shula without Marino.

The list goes on.
 
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