Your point is that a business run by competent people are too ignorant to figure out that they hold all the cards. My point is that the business is smart enough to recognize that the player indeed has leverage and is acting consistently with that. I'm done going around in circles on this.
You guys want to know something? I kind of see both your points.
I think you’re both right.
Me too, at least we agree on his ability. With a legit WR core he will be elite
With all due respect, and imo, that's just wrong. Watch the NFC championship game against New Orleans. Goff won that game for the Rams under truly hostile circumstances. And was directly responsible for getting the Rams to the Super Bowl.
And because of Von Miller and OBJ and Weddle and of course Kupp (who didn't play in the 2019 Super Bowl). And AD.
Brandin Cooks is a very good WR but…MAN… if he makes those catches in the Patriots SB… think how different the Rams trajectory goes from there! Like time warp weird!
The 2019 Super Bowl was a really close game that was up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Notwithstanding that Gurley by then was in knee failure mode and ran for only 35 yards. Kupp was out. Rams only real weapons were Cooks and Woods. And McVay had no answer for the Fangio Chicago defense as adapted and run by Belichek in the game.
If Goff would have seen him quicker and scored that earlier TD instead of throwing it late and floating the ball so the DB could interfere, we may have won that title. Or put that other pass on target later on.
You’re entitled to your opinion, I don’t have to go watch anything I saw it all and know what I know.
Yes, he was good, not great with the Rams and there were plenty of opportunities to see he was not a QB who could put the team on his shoulders and carry them. He regressed and his throwing motion suffered, it was slow and looping and defenders knew he would cough it up.
Imo they’d be forcing a pick. If Goff was in this years draft he’d be number 1 or 2. Since Detroit can’t reach number 1 they should pass.
I did some quick assessing in my head and I couldn’t name more than 10 QBs who had a better year than Goff last year. Now he may fall on his ass this year but I think he is knocking at the door for top 10 QBs.
I guess I depends on what the criteria is. Did they make the playoffs? Did they play the same schedule? Pass completions and yards, meh.
I put Goff ahead of Cousins snd Brady. But I put Geno Smith ahead of Goff. But we are in general agreement he landed about #10.
I want to put my two cents in as well
The point you've responded to "Goff couldn't step up" is a common one. The way I see it, McVay couldn't step up to the 6 man fronts the Pats were employing. Didn't have an answer, didn't have an adjustment, didn't have a clue. And he admitted as much days later. But let's fast forward to 2021. Stafford did step up. And it still took Aaron Donald stepping up to seal the deal in both the CCG and the SB. So it's not just the QB. Goff had a phenomenal year in 2018. Regular and postseason. And we're talking about a guy in his third year at the time, with 1 of the 3 wasted in Fisher's high school offense. I'm proud of the way the kid played while a Ram. I'm satisfied with the trade for Stafford. I bear no ill will towards JG like some. And likewise, I'm not blind to Stafford's drawbacks. It's a team game and McVay has had 2 pretty good QBs to work with during the last 6 years. On Goff, if you look around the internet and search back through the annals, you might find a game by game account of Goff's performance during the 2021 season from a glad he's gone, he only scored 3 points in our first SB since 2001 perspective. Funny but the descriptions and accounts of 2022 are nowhere to be found. I remain amused.
I can't help but to question if the Rams even get to the NFC Championship Game minus the rushing exploits of Gurley & Anderson. Wasn't the team averaging like 5 yards a carry? That did wonders for the play action game.
