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Numbers aside, Jeff Fisher sees an improving Rams' offense

Things to be excited about....

- Britt a little more consistent this year
- Quick getting decent looks, and getting involved.
- Kendricks, while not going to get targeted like Greg Olsen, is good for a timely gain almost every week when we need it.
- Small doses of extremely efficient play calling and offensive rhythm
- Improved 3rd down efficiency, which will eventually lead to the red zone.

Things to be concerned about.....

- Not enough small doses of extremely efficient play calling and offensive rhythm
- Tavon who? Where did he go? Lack of Tavon TD's very noticeable.
- Run blocking
- Predictable offense, primarily on the run game
- Horrible, horrible red zone effectiveness
- Jeff Fisher saying we need TD's but we're not taking shots into the end zone and are calling plays to settle for field goals.


We ARE improving. But its like watching grass grow.

In as much as our offense needing to improve, our play calling needs to support that.
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Monday's Sober Analysis of Bills Game (With Poll!)

It really cascades out from the defensive line.

We like to go with the lighter, faster faster linebackers in conjunction with safeties that hit. Heck our nickel is one of the most hybrid of all the backs out there. We seem to favor well rounded outside corners with size and speed. We try to keep the play in front of us.

To me, the three missing starters on our defensive line had the greatest negative impact on that game.
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Jim Thomas - NFL Chat - 10/11/16

So how did the Rams lose to Charlie Whitehurst and the Seahawks with the playoff spot at stake? Did Whitehurst play the only competent game of his career or were the Rams just flat out awful for that game?

I think Seattle won the game because of its dominant defense.
lol. They were 25th in the league in defensive points allowed that year.
The previous 3 games prior to ours, they allowed 40, 34, and 38. We scored 6.
The following 2 games they allowed 36 and 35.

Our offense just couldn't get it going, and there's plenty of reasons for that. A rookie Bradford, no run game, and this:

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Yeah. Except our defense bailed the offense out, again. Forced a 3 and out, then Keenum missed a wide open Quick on 3rd down. The game was there for the taking.

Oh yes, I know. Believe me, it hasn't gone unnoticed that Keenum twice missed the resurgent* Brian Quick on critical passes during the game, one by overthrow and one by just not pulling the trigger.

* you loved that "resurgent" sh!t, didn't you? :LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO:
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What can I say?

lol - I'm cut from the same cloth, my eldest has their games called off it's too wet to play and the field is muddy - and he comes home from training with tiny bits of rubber in his kit - what's that all about??!!???

When I used to play we always got lumbered with pitch 7 also known as the cabbage patch .... Thing was like a freaking swamp ... I'm still washing mud and crap out 20 Years later

Patriot's waive Jonathon Cooper

The days of drafting gifted raw prospects high may be over.
The type of blocking schemes prospect is running in college will take precedent .
No time to develop with new CBA.
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Mandarich wasn't a raw prospect. He was big, strong, fast, college star,...everything you could want. Unfortunately his massive ego and unbelievable Combine numbers masked the fact he had slow feet.

Randall Cobb: I thought I died

Unnecessary hit. He only had to touch him. Dumb risk to take on a guy on the ground.

Completely disagree. That is in slow motion. As amazing as these guys are as athletes, asking a guy to pull up at the last second is unrealistic. If Cobb's left leg doesn't slip, he cuts it up the sideline. If the defender goes in expecting to just touch him, he runs right by him.

An Update From Buffalo

Understood, but we were missing three of our starting front 7 players. Three who were supposed to be major factors.

We got lucky with that depth. Zach Brown and Lorenzo Alexander.

Goodluck this season guys.

3 out of your front seven is a tough loss
3 out of your starting 4 of your starting D line (easily our best unit ) is tougher still .... no excuses though you guys won fair an square good luck for the rest of the year

Five Takeaways: Rams 30-19 Loss to Bills

By Myles Simmons

With their 30-19 loss to the Bills on Sunday, the Rams’ record is now 3-2 on the 2016 season. There were many elements that added up to Los Angeles’ first home loss of the year, but there were some positive factors in the matchup as well. Let’s take a deeper look at both in this week’s five takeaways.

1) Turnovers in critical situations


In Los Angeles’ three 2016 wins, the club been either even or positive in the turnover margin. In Sunday’s contest against Buffalo, the Rams finished -3.

Running back Todd Gurley had two fumbles, one of which was recovered by the Bills’ defense. And quarterback Case Keenum threw two interceptions, one of which was returned for a touchdown.

In all, the Bills scored 13 points off the Rams’ turnovers.

“It took points off the board [with] the first fumble and then we allowed them to put points on the board,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “In close ball games, those are going to be the difference makers there, so it’s disappointing.”

Keenum called the throw he made on the pick six “a bad decision,” and acknowledged that the Rams offense has to do better from a turnover standpoint going forward.

“There is a small margin of error,” Keenum said. “[It’s] not something we dwell on but that’s why … we want to be perfect every snap, because you never know what snap is going to be crucial point of the game.”

2) Buffalo shows strength in the run game

Since changing their offensive coordinator after Week 2, the Bills have been running the ball particularly well. That was especially true in Sunday’s game, as Buffalo racked up 193 yards on just 27 carries — good for a 7.1 yard average.

Running back LeSean McCoy led the charge with 150 yards on 18 attempts, including a 53-yard run that brought the Bills inside the Rams’ five-yard line.

“He just made plays,” defensive tackleAaron Donald said. “We just didn’t bottle him up, we didn’t get to him, we didn’t hit him enough and it showed.”

“It was especially on us, we just didn’t get in our gaps,” middle linebackerAlec Ogletree said. “We just kind of made up some stuff and they took advantage of our miscues. I thought we did a good job when we did get around him, we were able to stop him a little bit. He’s one of the better backs in the league, if you make a mistake, he can definitely find a hole.”

Injuries likely contributed to the Rams’ difficulties against the run, as three of the club’s starters on the defensive line were inactive due to injury. Defensive end Robert Quinn (shoulder), defensive tackleMichael Brockers (hip), and defensive end William Hayes (ankle) were all questionable heading into Sunday’s contest.

“We don’t make excuses, but three of our starting four defensive linemen were watching the game today,” Fisher said. “What those guys do is they pressure the quarterback and Rob’s always making a chase play from behind, and we just didn’t get that today. Still not acceptable run defense, but they’ve been doing this for the last couple of weeks against a number of teams.”

Fisher said all three were willing to play, but the head coach held them out in order to be better equipped going forward.

“They’re all willing, but we’re looking at the long haul right now and they wouldn’t have been productive,” Fisher said. “They wouldn’t have been able to protect themselves.”

3) Bills ready for trickery

Early in the week, Fisher complimented the Bills for the way they clearly put a high priority on special teams. In many ways, it’s reflective of the way Los Angeles handles its own special teams unit.

Perhaps that was a factor in the fourth quarter when Fisher elected to try a fake punt on 4th-and-5 from the Rams’ 23-yard line, and the play ended up a few yards short of the first-down marker. Wide receiverBradley Marquez was in formation as the up man in front of punter Johnny Hekker, received a direct snap, and darted to his right. But Buffalo, apparently ready for the fake, was able to tackle Marquez after just a two-yard gain.

“I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t think it was going to work. That’s how those things are. We practiced it all week, we had the look, and it didn’t work,” Fisher said. “They executed it in practice, but they didn’t execute it there. I thought if that thing works it’s good stuff — really good stuff — but it didn’t. They don’t always work, but that type of approach in special teams has taken us a long ways.”

4) Red-zone efficiency

Los Angeles had its best game in terms of moving the ball, amassing 345 total yards and 23 first downs. The club’s offense also led in time of possession, 35:34 to 24:26.

But once the Rams entered the red zone, they had a hard time getting into the end zone. Of their four red-zone opportunities, L.A. scored only one touchdown.

“We’ve got to score in that red zone,” wide receiver Tavon Austin said. “We keep getting down there, but not scoring in the red zone. Three points is good, but three points is not going to win too many big games, and that’s what it showed today.”

Austin was among one of the more productive offensive players for the Rams on Sunday, making seven receptions for 59 yards and taking three carries for 26 yards. Wideout Kenny Britt continued his strong start to the season by making five receptions for 75 yards. And Gurley had 108 yards from scrimmage and a rushing touchdown in the contest.

“You saw some improvement out of the offense against a good defensive unit,” Fisher said. “We got the ball in our playmakers’ hands, and it seemed like either Todd, or Kenny, or Tavon or somebody was making plays offensively. We just didn’t get in the end zone.”

Finishing drives will likely be a point of emphasis going into next week’s game against Detroit.

5) Heading on the road

The Rams have spent three of their first five weeks of the season on the road, and they are now getting ready to head out on another tough two-game stretch. First, the team will travel across the country to take on Detroit for Week 6. And after that game, the Rams will hop on a trans-atlantic flight to London where they’ll spend the week preparing to take on the Giants at Twickenham Stadium.

If there’s ever a week for the 24-hour rule, it’s this one — especially since the Rams are still well positioned with a 3-2 record.

“I know there’s a lot of teams that would like to be 3-2, but we still have work to do,” Fisher said. “We have quite a challenge on our hands over the next couple of weeks, and the players know that. We’re going to get them back and have a great week of practice and then go on the road for a couple of weeks.”

“You have to move on and have a short memory in this league because we’ve got a lot of football left ahead of us and we are in a good spot. There are a lot of teams that would love to be where we are,” Keenum said. “So, we are going to keep fighting and we are going to take it a week at a time. And we’ve got another great opponent on the road this week, then going even further on the road for a home game. Never done that before — so not looking to that but we’ve got tests ahead of us.”

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Its Goff time

I'm going to rematch the game today but we were in the redone 4 times yesterday correct? We didn't throw the ball one time into the end zone. Why? They don't trust Keenum or Keenum doesn't trust himself that crap has to stop or we will keep losing. Keenum had a decent game but after the pic6 he dined and dunked the rest of the day. He played scared and you can't do that. I'm ready for something else

Right on. Good post.
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Honest Question,

Fisher has never had an offense that scored more than 42 TDs (1999). He's only had 4 that have scored more than 38 or more (99, 02, 03 and 04). His highest offensive output (TD & FG = PPG) was 22.3 in 1999. He's only had 4 years when his offense averaged 21 points or more (99, 02, 03 and 08 ). That's the bad news. In 20 full seasons, his defense/special teams have averaged 4.5 TDs per year. They scored less than 4 TD just 6 times and have scored more than 4 seven times (3 out of 4 with the Rams). That's an additional 1.9 points per game, every game, every year. So his defense is more consistent than we could hope his offense to be. But that's just defensive scores. That is not including a TD or FG scored by the offense by virtue of the defense setting them up in a good scoring position. So, practically any offense in the NFL with a Fisher designed defense is going to score about 2 more PPG. Doesn't sound like a lot but when 25% of games are decided by 3 points or less each year, it's considerable.

Having said that here's some more bad news. His offensive theory (if there is such a thing with Fisher) is obviously run, run and run some more. Only once in 20 years as a head coach has his offense had 30 TD passes (2003). They went 12-4. He's had 3 teams go 13-3 (99, 00 and 08) and the TD pass total was 23, 18 and 13 respectively. Twice he's achieved a 13 win season with less than 20 TD passes. I wouldn't expect to win 13 games if someone told me 'your team isn't going to have 19 TD passes this year. It's true you can't count on non offensive scores year in and year out but Fisher's defenses and special teams seem to always contribute to the scoring. Not once in 20 years of coaching has he been blanked in non-offensive scores and only three times has he had less than 3. But we're talking about offense here.

Many believe he lost his job in Tennessee because of Vince Young. And that may be true. He made the playoffs with VY in 2007 (10-6) but that team finished 3rd in the division. The next year with Kerry Collins under center for all but 1 game, they won the division (13-3). Some thought Carson Wentz was the prototype Fisher QB, in the mold of Steve McNair. And I've read some random opinions that suggested Fisher wanted Wentz. Who knows if that's true? I believe that Goff may end up being the most talented QB as a pure passer that Fisher will ever have, including McNair. But will he turn him loose? The saying is 'a leopard can't change his spots' but I believe if Goff becomes that guy, Fisher will take full advantage of that talent. And if he does, we may be in for a treat with both Gurley AND Goff....a reprieve for Ram fans from the mid 70's and 80's when we always had a horse of a RB but only had a good QB for a couple of seasons with Ferragamo. And for 3 of his seasons, that horse was Wendell Tyler.

EDIT:
A little more research on Fisher and QBs, he has been a head coach for 20 full seasons and in just 4 of them has he had the same guy start all 16 games (97, 98, 02 and 12). His lifetime regular season winning percentage is .519.9. In seasons where he's had a 16 game starter his winning percentage is .546. In seasons where he hasn't had a 16 game starter his percentage is .513. Well here's hoping he doesn't have a 16 game starter this season, ;).