Why Eagles Feel Great About Bradford

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blue4 said:
If Bradford stays healthy, this talk of who fleeced who may change by mid season.

If he stays healthy.
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They're saying the first surgery was never properly done - and the second surgery has fixed this....

If the guys lighting it up and Philly go win the division I'm going to be mightily P.O.'d I reckon....

But then again, I don't blame the guys for making the trade because it was a good deal.
 
Elmgrovegnome said:
So, Chip Kelly's strength and conditioning program is the secret formula in the deal. I figured there was a catch. I had no idea that Chip Kelly had a better S&C program than other NFL teams. He must be smarter than the entire league put together if he figured out how to stop players from getting injured.

Good luck to Sam and the Eagles. Fair trade IMO. Both QBs could walk after this season, so there is an even risk, both have an injury, Sam is better when healthy, Rams get the draft picks. Even Steven.
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Not all teams do things the same way. No idea the specifics of where their program differs but I am sure there is a lot more that goes into it/player evaluation/therapy ect than squats and bench press. Kelly is OCD in a Vermeilian way. Making sure each player has their nutritional/recovery plan in camp. That doesn't seem weird to me, it seems smart. As technology improves I think more and more teams will develop their own twists on player evaluation and development. Moneyball is coming to the NFL.....which is to say lookin at more than just 40 times.
 
fearsomefour said:
Not all teams do things the same way. No idea the specifics of where their program differs but I am sure there is a lot more that goes into it/player evaluation/therapy ect than squats and bench press. Kelly is OCD in a Vermeilian way. Making sure each player has their nutritional/recovery plan in camp. That doesn't seem weird to me, it seems smart. As technology improves I think more and more teams will develop their own twists on player evaluation and development. Moneyball is coming to the NFL.....which is to say lookin at more than just 40 times
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I don't think it is weird. What I think is that sports medicine and training techniques have come a long way and every NFL team has a grip on them. Maybe Kelly is cutting edge but thinking that he can take a player that has had a rather extensive injury history and keep him healthy because of his S&C program is quite egotistical. Does he think the Rams didn't consult outside sources, like doctors, nutritionist, sports medicine professionals, physical therapists in regards to what was best for Bradford? Does Kelly have access to some top secret Russian athlete formula that no other teams employ?

I just think it is silly for him to think he is so much better than everyone else.................. and he had two QBs get injured last year.
 
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joeyknish said:
In light of recent moves, the Eagles are now fielding garbage at the skill positions, certainly less than what Bradford had in Saint Louis.
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Sprouls Celek Ertz Matthews are all better than what Sam had for his first few years in StL. He only got 7 games with the improved talent pool and still a crappy oline.
 
We still need to stick with our plan, before we traded for Foles. If there are no options in the draft this year, worth value, then Case Keenum will have to keep the boat upright. I hope we can still draft a developmental guy.
 
Bradford/Foles, Foles/Bradford, i don't think it matters. Whichever QB is playing for Phili will almost certainly have the better year.

Chip Kelly is about winning by maximizing output from the QB position. Jeff Fisher is about winning with defense and minimizing mistakes from the QB position.

I think this is a great trade for the Rams. But it's also a great opportunity for Bradford...
 
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"I think Marcus (Mariota) is the best QB in the draft, but we would never mortgage our future..." -Chip Kelly
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"There's a consistency in my behavior. The fact that it doesn't jive with your schedules is I think what the issue is." -Chip Kelly
(Then walks off the podium)
 
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Elmgrovegnome said:
I don't think it is weird. What I think is that sports medicine and training techniques have come a long way and every NFL team has a grip on them. Maybe Kelly is cutting edge but thinking that he can take a player that has had a rather extensive injury history and keep him healthy because of his S&C program is quite egotistical. Does he think the Rams didn't consult outside sources, like doctors, nutritionist, sports medicine professionals, physical therapists in regards to what was best for Bradford? Does Kelly have access to some top secret Russian athlete formula that no other teams employ?

I just think it is silly for him to think he is so much better than everyone else.................. and he had two QBs get injured last year.
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He certainly has a healthy ego.
It may be nothing more than playing the odds. The fact that both of Bradford's knee injuries were basically non contact would give me pause. They obviously believe two in two years does not mean higher risk going forward.
It's also low risk. They are the hook for one year and are taking a chance on a guy who brings more to the table than who they got rid of. If it doesn't work they can move on. He is arrogant and irritating, but, I like his gutsy nature.
 
Dodgersrf said:
Good read
Makes we want him back.
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blackbart said:
Sprouls Celek Ertz Matthews are all better than what Sam had for his first few years in StL. He only got 7 games with the improved talent pool and still a crappy oline.
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I agree that Sam had nothing to work with his first few years. The problem is that as the weapons started arriving(and they did), that's when Bradford was on the sidelines(last two years).
 
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Mojo Ram said:
I agree that Sam had nothing to work with his first few years. The problem is that as the weapons started arriving(and they did), that's when Bradford was on the sidelines(last two years).
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Was just bad luck from day 1 to the end. Hopefully that's in the past now for the Rams and Sam, and we can start to put it all together. There's always been one problem holding us back from really exploding - and we sort that and something else came up. A run of bad luck.
 
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drasconis said:
Wow, talk about team spin.
The Rams didn't put much around him ->we don't have much left but we will get something?
He got sacked a lot-> our blocking scheme which did not do great last year will fix this
He has a long injury history -> our S&C group will keep him healthy ....the same way they have kept the rest of our players healthy?
Man the Eagles are spinning this one.......they got fleeced
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their blocking scheme also consists in All pro's at LT (peters), LG (mathis), and C (kelce)- with mathis and kelce missing a lot of time. 1st Rounder Lane right at RT and their RG is decent

they had/have a much better line than we do, no question
 
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