Once again, I only said that he reminded me of DA.
Nowhere did I say they were even nearly the same with regards to injury history, so get off that horse about this.
Regarding my comment about Tyson, I said I don't like the potential risk that comes with drafting him.
I still don't....... But then again, it may wind up being a nothing burger
Time to move on ......
Forgive me for saying but it's not dumb at all not that we're supposed to use that word about posts.
Denario Alexander in 4 years of college played 47 games out of 60 his team played
Jordyn Tyson in 4 years of college played 33 out of 51 games his team played
Just going off a time missed it's not even remotely close and that's not factoring any games either of them played a few snaps or a half and then left. That's pure number of games played. People every draft cycle want to make guys they like for whatever reason look better and it's gone wild this year especially. We see it with Tyson and other. Likewise people want to make players they don't like look worse some for legit reasons some absolutely not. But sorry by a games missed metric you're way off on the mark here.
Pardon me for jumping into the fray but I have to side with
El Chapo Jr a bit here even though I get where everyone is coming from. First, I have to point out that there's a difference between reading a medical report and dismissing a player as injury prone just by seeing the list of injuries compared to reading that same report and comprehending the nature of those injuries to put them in the proper context. Again, I get why people do this because I was guilty of it myself in initially dropping Jordyn Tyson from consideration for the 13th overall selection because of his list of injuries. Obviously, I've changed my tune since then because of details I've gathered since, but I also acknowledge that more needs to be researched and investigated to determine the risk factors.
Having said that, the nature of the respective injuries clearly seem different to me in comparing Tyson with Danario Alexander's respective medical history coming out of college and high school. Alexander's was more worrisome because they looked like a physically chronic condition at that point, which is different from Tyson's regardless of the games missed and amount of injuries. None of Tyson's notable injuries is considered career threatening or chronic in physical nature. Admittedly, tearing his ACL, MCL and PCL at the same time sounds quite worrisome but it's been four years since then and he seems to have recovered from it and the most dangerous ACL is considered a common injury nowadays with expected recovery for most athletes. A fractured clavicle is an unrelated injury and, again, something that athletes typically fully recover from. Hamstring injuries are some of the most common injuries in sports. Maybe this could be related to the torn ACL, MCL and PCL but from what Field Yates and Mel Kiper, Jr. have been saying it's more from his ultra-competitiveness and team-first mentality.
At the same time, do either Yates & Kiper, Jr. have medical degrees? Not to my knowledge, but I assume, given their respective experience in draft-related matters, that they've consulted with experts who do on Tyson's situation in making their assessment. Also, it's certainly fair to be concerned as people have pointed out why it's taking so long for him to recover from the hamstring. I can only venture to guess that Tyson is not letting himself heal before working out or practicing plays at full-speed based on what I've been hearing lately.
Both Alexander and Tyson were certainly highly talented players, but as
El Chapo Jr astutely pointed out, their respective risk factors were certainly different, which is reflected in their draft standings at the time of their drafts. I don't believe Alexander was considered as a first-rounder close to the draft and a Google search has an A.I.-generated answer that had him considered a mid-rounder before going undrafted. Meanwhile, in spite of his injury, Tyson could conceivably be drafted in the top 10 even though he's projected to go around the middle of the first round.
One could certainly argue that Tyson's injuries are self-inflicted and that could lead to a chronic condition if he doesn't temper his approach to injury management, which I personally think should be an easy thing to do if a professional organization with a topnotch medical and training staff prioritizes and convinces him to train and compete in a more practical manner for the sake of the team and winning the ultimate prize...i.e. taking it easier in more games in order to win the big games. The bottom line is that unlike with Alexander's injuries, Tyson's situation looks to be controllable.
I remember one of the Rams writers mention that Snead told him that the concern they had with Wentz was he was the kid in HS that would run into the outfield fence full speed to try to catch a ball that was 5 ft over the fence or would crash into the gym wall trying to block a layup. He said that in so many words, maybe not exact, but that was the gist.
So in other words, he was reckless. And this was said when it looked like Wentz was better than Goff after a few yrs in the league. That turned out to be so true, both in taking chances and not staying healthy, and more importantly playing hero ball.
I had to add this quote by
PhillyRam as it could probably sum up the fears on Tyson and put it in the proper context. Like Carson Wentz and Blake Griffin of the NBA, maybe Jordyn Tyson is too reckless for his own good.
