DRAFT Where do you stand on QB Ty Simpson?

[Merlin]

I think Simpson after spending a year with McVay and Stafford would be ahead of the guys coming out in '27
That said, I wouldnt be disappointed if they didnt draft him because they have an opportunity to land a good player

I agree he'd be ahead with a year on the bench. Fair point.

But again I think we need to consider that this is a coach who threw Goff out because he wasn't good enough. Is Simpson in possession of faculties that would enable him to meet McVay's expectations of not living unerneath in the NFL? I think it can be argued that's in question, on top of the sample size and smallness of frame. He wilted hard under the rush in those later season games and he's likely to see that at this level unless he's fortunate enough to get drafted by a team like the Rams who can redshirt him.

Anyway my deal in this all along is that we can find a QB2 project into midrounds and use the higher picks for important roles. We have the MVP of the league at QB1 right now. This push to reach for a QB at 13 doesn't wash for me, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna throw a fit if we take him. I will fully understand it if it happens and I'm ready for it. Certainly it's a possibility.

 

[RamFan503]

OS and I are capable of throwing a little shit at each other without parental supervision.

 

[TheTackle]

It isn't that I don't think he will be a good QB. It is that I don't think he is special in any way, not worth a 1st round pick and a chance to really upgrade other positions on this team for the SB run. If I am weighing between the future and the present, I chose a player more likely to help the team now and look for a QB later. Later the Rams can acquire an equally equipped, used or new model that will probably manage the the offense as well as Simpson and maybe find something special.

Nothing is guaranteed. Just because the Rams came close doesn't mean they are automatically good enough to get to the SB. Even with the coverage improvement. As I have said before, any upgrade to the team now is a move for the future. There are few QBs like Stafford and the likely hood that the Rams replace him with another that will make up for weaknesses and can put the team on his back is slim. So the team around that QB needs to be able to make up for his weaknesses.

Well said

 

[TheTackle]

I don't think Simpson is a bad QB. I just think he'll be barely average in the NFL. So asking me to get excited about spending a 1st round pick on him doesn't make any sense to me. Now granted, I formed my opinion based mostly what I saw of him in the latter part of the season last year. I am not sure how much the reported illness or play by the rest of his team affected his play. Did the rest of his team get injured or start playing like shit? Or did the opposition get tougher like it often does as the season end grows nearer.

But I am with @Merlin in thinking the guy would be in a tough battle with his back up if he stayed in school. I didn't buy the whole loyalty and "didn't want to tarnish his legacy" BS as to why he didn't stay in school. Didn't make sense then and still doesn't. What fucking "legacy"? He started for one season. A boy raised in Tennessee suddenly becomes completely loyal to Alabama.... RIGHT! He would have had to take maybe a little less NIL money to stay at Alabama IF he got offers from other power 4 programs. Of course he never mentioned who were those other programs making offers.

Any QB we would choose would be going into an ideal situation. He would have time to learn the NFL game behind a pro's pro while getting NFL coaching from a stellar staff and time with Justin Lovett and Reggie to build his physique to be ready to take over.

I'd rather the Rams take a shot at a QB later in the draft that has tools that can be honed instead of taking a QB that most people hold their nose when they say he's a first rounder.

If they take Simpson, I'll hope for the best. But I just don't see them taking him even if he fell to their 2nd round pick. I just don't see him filling a need that high up in the draft.

Ty Simpson received significant NIL transfer offers to return to college, notably from Miami ($6.5 million), Tennessee ($4 million), and Ole Miss($4 million).

FFS I know this is opinions but do we really have to exaggerate and bullshit to make a point?

I will accept drafting WR CB TE or Downs without any drama but can we at least have a sensible conversation about Simpson? Can we?! CAN WE?!!

Over to you So Ram

 

[RamFan503]

y Simpson received significant NIL transfer offers to return to college, notably from Miami ($6.5 million), Tennessee ($4 million), and Ole Miss($4 million).

Do you have a link? The articles I saw said undisclosed offers from power 4 schools. I haven’t seen the information you posted. I’m not saying it’s not true. I just haven’t seen real numbers. And if it’s true, what was Bama offering?

It’s not bullshit. It’s what I’ve read.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

I agree he'd be ahead with a year on the bench. Fair point.

But again I think we need to consider that this is a coach who threw Goff out because he wasn't good enough. Is Simpson in possession of faculties that would enable him to meet McVay's expectations of not living unerneath in the NFL? I think it can be argued that's in question, on top of the sample size and smallness of frame. He wilted hard under the rush in those later season games and he's likely to see that at this level unless he's fortunate enough to get drafted by a team like the Rams who can redshirt him.

Anyway my deal in this all along is that we can find a QB2 project into midrounds and use the higher picks for important roles. We have the MVP of the league at QB1 right now. This push to reach for a QB at 13 doesn't wash for me, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna throw a fit if we take him. I will fully understand it if it happens and I'm ready for it. Certainly it's a possibility.

Of course, because if they do actually take him at 13 (i'd say 5-10% chance only) it would have to mean McVay LOVES him and didnt want to chance losing him.

I'd say more likely, if McVay DOES want him, a trade down, or TWO even, to 21, then 29, take Ty and grab a whole bunch of day 2's and 3's.

 

[TheTackle]

Do you have a link? The articles I saw said undisclosed offers from power 4 schools. I haven’t seen the information you posted. I’m not saying it’s not true. I just haven’t seen real numbers. And if it’s true, what was Bama offering?

It’s not bullshit. It’s what I’ve read.

I was being light hearted. Sorry

Ty Simpson turned down millions in NIL. Now he's a high NFL draft prospect

Former Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson is projected as a first-round NFL draft pick. See where analysts rank him and which teams might select him.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Merlin]

Ty Simpson received significant NIL transfer offers to return to college, notably from Miami ($6.5 million), Tennessee ($4 million), and Ole Miss($4 million).

FFS I know this is opinions but do we really have to exaggerate and bullshit to make a point?

If those teams were all over him it means they probably thought he'd be open to a chance to get a job offer with them instead of (potentially) competing for the job at Bama.

Also why are you so incapable of entertaining the possibility Simpson might need to win that QB job in the spring this year. He failed, after all, to win that same job in every season at Bama except for 2025. Bama has some serious talent in that room too. It is not insane to think perhaps they'd open up competition to make the product on the field better and more consistent.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

If those teams were all over him it means they probably thought he'd be open to a chance to get a job offer with them instead of competing for the job at Bama.

Also why are you so incapable of entertaining the possibility Simpson might need to win that QB job in the spring this year. He failed, after all, to win that same job in every season at Bama except for 2025. Bama has some serious talent in that room too. It is not insane to think perhaps they'd open up competition to make the product on the field better and more consistent.

I guess what us "pro-Simpson" folks are banking on Merlin is that respected evaluators Todd McShay and Dan Orlovsky both say Simpson's tape was QB1 worthy thru 2 Months of the season. I do think, in the end, you'll win out on this one and he wont be a Ram. And I'm fine with that. Because McVay and Snead are fine with that. He's in the same stratosphere right now as Dart and Shough were last year. That Late 1st/Early 2nd thing. We "flirted" with the idea of them too.

 

[DzRams]

I don't think Simpson is a bad QB. I just think he'll be barely average in the NFL. So asking me to get excited about spending a 1st round pick on him doesn't make any sense to me. Now granted, I formed my opinion based mostly what I saw of him in the latter part of the season last year. I am not sure how much the reported illness or play by the rest of his team affected his play. Did the rest of his team get injured or start playing like shit? Or did the opposition get tougher like it often does as the season end grows nearer.

But I am with @Merlin in thinking the guy would be in a tough battle with his back up if he stayed in school. I didn't buy the whole loyalty and "didn't want to tarnish his legacy" BS as to why he didn't stay in school. Didn't make sense then and still doesn't. What fucking "legacy"? He started for one season. A boy raised in Tennessee suddenly becomes completely loyal to Alabama.... RIGHT! He would have had to take maybe a little less NIL money to stay at Alabama IF he got offers from other power 4 programs. Of course he never mentioned who were those other programs making offers.

Any QB we would choose would be going into an ideal situation. He would have time to learn the NFL game behind a pro's pro while getting NFL coaching from a stellar staff and time with Justin Lovett and Reggie to build his physique to be ready to take over.

I'd rather the Rams take a shot at a QB later in the draft that has tools that can be honed instead of taking a QB that most people hold their nose when they say he's a first rounder.

If they take Simpson, I'll hope for the best. But I just don't see them taking him even if he fell to their 2nd round pick. I just don't see him filling a need that high up in the draft.

So to simplify, is this the equation: Longshot project later > avg starting QB in the 1st?

Assuming he will turn out to be an average starting QB, what do we expect that to cost?

 

[Ram Ts]

I guess what us "pro-Simpson" folks are banking on Merlin is that respected evaluators Todd McShay and Dan Orlovsky

Are they though? Respected by actual NFL teams or fans? It seems if it were the former, they'd be hired by NFL teams and running the draft/team. Or are they just good talking heads for ESPN and all the shows they sell.

Honestly, idk personally -- because i don't know what NFL teams/GM/etc. think of these two guys and their evaluations. But i do know that neither of them work for an NFL teams scouting/etc. (nor do i think they ever have). Like is Mel Kiper respected by teams or is he simply good TV / talking head.

 

[DzRams]

Ty Simpson received significant NIL transfer offers to return to college, notably from Miami ($6.5 million), Tennessee ($4 million), and Ole Miss($4 million).

FFS I know this is opinions but do we really have to exaggerate and bullshit to make a point?

I will accept drafting WR CB TE or Downs without any drama but can we at least have a sensible conversation about Simpson? Can we?! CAN WE?!!

Over to you So Ram

Are you new here? Speculation is >> facts.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

So to simplify, is this the equation: Longshot project later > avg starting QB in the 1st?

Assuming he will turn out to be an average starting QB, what do we expect that to cost?

These are if Simpson is worth pick 13.

If he's what Purdy is to the Niners- YES
If he's what Nix is to the Broncos- YES

Do we have ANY idea if the above is true- ABSOLUTELY NOT.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Are they though? Respected by actual NFL teams or fans? It seems if it were the former, they'd be hired by NFL teams and running the draft/team. Or are they just good talking heads for ESPN and all the shows they sell.

Honestly, idk personally -- because i don't know what NFL teams/GM/etc. think of these two guys and their evaluations. But i do know that neither of them work for an NFL teams scouting/etc. (nor do i think they ever have). Like is Mel Kiper respected by teams or is he simply good TV / talking head.

C'mon man, if you dont know McShay hits on QB's with regularity its because you don't follow. And thats FINE. But dont talk out of school.

 

[DzRams]

If he's what Purdy is to the Niners- YES
If he's what Nix is to the Broncos- YES

Do we have ANY idea if the about is true- ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Purdy is a case in point. I asked in another thread, if the Purdy draft was a redo, where do we think he would be picked?

Clearly a 1st. We may not like it, but an average QB is worth a 1st round pick. Significantly above average will cost three 1sts.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Purdy is a case in point. I asked in another thread, if the Purdy draft was a redo, where do we think he would be picked?

Clearly a 1st. We may not like it, but an average QB is worth a 1st round pick. Significantly above average will cost three 1sts.

Of course. Purdy on the Niners, worth a 1st. Purdy on the Jets, worth a 4th.

Simpson on the McVay Rams after 1-2 years of learn behind Stafford???