What question do you want answered in OTAs?

[OldSchool]

I suspect it's pretty well accepted around here that Shelton will be the starter (whether people agree!) but I guess we can probably get that confirmed in OTAs.

Oh I'm sure with the money they gave him he will be the starter. That isn't the questions though, the question is if he still sucks.

 

[Londoner]

Despite the rookie mistakes, Limmer was better last year than Shelton has ever been.

I still cannot believe that McVay is looking to start with Shelton over Limmer this year. Yes, the coaches have more information than us internet fans, but that doesn't mean that they are always right. Nobody is.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Far from 'always right:. How right were they with Evans, Bruss, Demby and Noteboom? Bringing back Shelton and giving him the starting center job is such a slap in the face to Limmer. Yes he fucked up in the playoffs, but for the most part he did an admirable job filling in at center. Hopefully he's learning line calls because I believe he'll be taking over at center once Shelton gets his ass handed to him repeatedly and Stafford gets hammered.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Far from 'always right:. How right were they with Evans, Bruss, Demby and Noteboom? Bringing back Shelton and giving him the starting center job is such a slap in the face to Limmer. Yes he fucked up in the playoffs, but for the most part he did an admirable job filling in at center. Hopefully he's learning line calls because I believe he'll be taking over at center once Shelton gets his ass handed to him repeatedly and Stafford gets hammered.

How dare you malign Ramsondemand LEGEND Logan Bruss!!

 

[WestCoastRam]

Despite the rookie mistakes, Limmer was better last year than Shelton has ever been.

I still cannot believe that McVay is looking to start with Shelton over Limmer this year. Yes, the coaches have more information than us internet fans, but that doesn't mean that they are always right. Nobody is.

I think the most plausible answer is that Limmer didn't make the progress they would have wanted on protections last year. I think the coaching staff would probably agree that Limmer is better at the other things (though I think you can make an argument that he might not be as good at pass protection). Rams want the oline performance from 2023 and that probably starts with Shelton's command of protections even if he's physically deficient.

We can rail all we want about how much Shelton sucks but I don't have a lot of sympathy for that; if Limmer's any good, he'll take the job. If he's not, he won't.

I blame the kid, not Shelton who's already a known quantity.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Imo you left off the two biggest questions. Tutu and Shelton but I doubt any player questions will be answered in camp.

He asked how Ferguson does. I think that covers Tutu. We know Atwell can play already. But if Ferguson had instant impact we don’t see a lot of Tutu, because that likely means more 12 personnel. If Ferguson doesn’t have much of an impact, then we see more of Atwell because we’ve seen Davis Allen and Colby Parkinson enough to believe they don’t force McVay to play mostly 12 personnel.

Far from 'always right:. How right were they with Evans, Bruss, Demby and Noteboom? Bringing back Shelton and giving him the starting center job is such a slap in the face to Limmer. Yes he fucked up in the playoffs, but for the most part he did an admirable job filling in at center. Hopefully he's learning line calls because I believe he'll be taking over at center once Shelton gets his ass handed to him repeatedly and Stafford gets hammered.

He could have screwed up the calls many more times and we are just not aware of it because the opponents didn’t take full advantage of it like Jalen Carter did.

The screen game wasn’t as good last year. Could that in part be attributed to Limmer?

 

[OldSchool]

He asked how Ferguson does. I think that covers Tutu. We know Atwell can play already. But if Ferguson had instant impact we don’t see a lot of Tutu, because that likely means more 12 personnel. If Ferguson doesn’t have much of an impact, then we see more of Atwell because we’ve seen Davis Allen and Colby Parkinson enough to believe they don’t force McVay to play mostly 12 personnel.



He could have screwed up the calls many more times and we are just not aware of it because the opponents didn’t take full advantage of it like Jalen Carter did.

The screen game wasn’t as good last year. Could that in part be attributed to Limmer?

Ferguson has nothing to do with my questions about Atwell sorry.

 

[Merlin]

Why is the sky blue?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Ferguson has nothing to do with my questions about Atwell sorry.

In your mind no. But to most others yes. Did you watch the Draft videos? Right after Snead picked Ferguson McVay said “What do you think? More 12 personnel?” He addressed it in a press conference too.

 

[Merlin]

Far from 'always right:. How right were they with Evans, Bruss, Demby and Noteboom? Bringing back Shelton and giving him the starting center job is such a slap in the face to Limmer. Yes he fucked up in the playoffs, but for the most part he did an admirable job filling in at center. Hopefully he's learning line calls because I believe he'll be taking over at center once Shelton gets his ass handed to him repeatedly and Stafford gets hammered.

Yep. OL has been McVay's achilles heel on offense. Just look at last year, same shit and took half the fucking season to get past the attempted OL shuffle of Avila to Center. And we still ended up losing in the playoffs due to Center play.

 

[OldSchool]

In your mind no. But to most others yes. Did you watch the Draft videos? Right after Snead picked Ferguson McVay said “What do you think? More 12 personnel?” He addressed it in a press conference too.

My questions about Atwell have nothing at all to do with Ferguson sorry but they aren't related at all to me. Yes I watch all the videos the Rams put out and all the interviews they do and they're unrelated. My question is what McVay is going to do to get Atwell the ball and show us why he paid him a 1 year $10 million dollar contract. I know why the drafted Ferguson he earned that draft pick. Atwell has never done anything to earn that contract so I want to see what McVay does with him and what Atwell does with that.

 

[AZRams]

Yep. OL has been McVay's achilles heel on offense. Just look at last year, same shit and took half the fucking season to get past the attempted OL shuffle of Avila to Center. And we still ended up losing in the playoffs due to Center play.

Rookie mistake man. Limmer way out-performed his draft capital.

And the one-game Avila experiment against Miami is still my most infuriating moment of the season last year. And that includes the penalty and sack at the end of the playoff loss.

 

[Memphis Ram]

From what I understand the only reason Limmer lasted until the 6th round was due to a medical red flag.

And while Shelton isn't that great a center, if he can take and keep those lines calls off Stafford's plate, perhaps that improves the offense via his QB play.

 

[dieterbrock]

In your mind no. But to most others yes. Did you watch the Draft videos? Right after Snead picked Ferguson McVay said “What do you think? More 12 personnel?” He addressed it in a press conference too.

Yeah been down that road before though. After they drafted Brycen Hopkins they talked about how they were going to get him involved. Still waiting.
It may happen. As much as I’m not a believer in Tutu it appears that McVay is.
Alas.
But like Coleman Shelton, the Rams are only committed to Tutu for 1 year, so I don’t think the dollar amount guarantees a starting position.
It’s going to be fun when we all find out

 

[bubbaramfan]

VetRanFandand I have I have a lot to look at in TC

 

[Merlin]

Rookie mistake man. Limmer way out-performed his draft capital.

I am aware of that. Everyone is aware of that. But that is a separate issue to the fact that Center cost us our playoff run.

So again the Rams shitty fucking decisions on the OL, which go back many years under McVay, are in fact his achilles heel.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah been down that road before though. After they drafted Brycen Hopkins they talked about how they were going to get him involved. Still waiting.
It may happen. As much as I’m not a believer in Tutu it appears that McVay is.
Alas.
But like Coleman Shelton, the Rams are only committed to Tutu for 1 year, so I don’t think the dollar amount guarantees a starting position.
It’s going to be fun when we all find out

Shelton was signed to 2 years.

 

[OldSchool]

I am aware of that. Everyone is aware of that. But that is a separate issue to the fact that Center cost us our playoff run.

Center and Right Guard helped cost us the playoffs. They weren't alone in that either by a long ways. Sucks that the guy who might have been our best OL the last 2 years fucked up badly on that play just like Limmer did.

 

[Merlin]

Center and Right Guard helped cost us the playoffs. They weren't alone in that either by a long ways. Sucks that the guy who might have been our best OL the last 2 years fucked up badly on that play just like Limmer did.

I love Limmer and appreciate him. I think he'll win the Center job this year too over Shelton. But he was the weak link there at the end.

Does not matter that it was a good season for a rook, as it pertains to the post and conversation. Does not matter that it is understandable that a rook would fuck up vs an elite DL either. The point was that the Rams' decision making on the OL has continued to haunt McVay during his time with the Rams and it did again as recently as last year.

 

[PARAM]

The question I want answered in OTAs is which Rams player is going to be Super Bowl MVP?