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Denver Over St. Louis
The new streak continues this weekend. Before I show some stats, I see this as another 2 TD (plus) victory for our guys. And without comparing the stats, the high level numbers are very similar to that of Oakland when we faced them, which should give a pretty comforting thought going into the game. OK, here's two, just for fun: Total O - St. L is 30th and Oakland was 32nd. Total D - St. Lou is 17th and Oakland was 16th. So, high level, but very similar.
Then again, St. Louis has won 3 games, including victories over San Fran and Seattle. And they were in tight with teams like Dallas and Philly. So, they aren't too shabby. They've had some bad luck, losing Bradford and Long (although he is coming back soon).
Now this week's comparisons:
Total O - Denver (3rd) StL (30th)
Passing - Denver (2nd) StL (26th)
Rushing - Denver (26th) StL (22nd)
Total D - Denver (5th) StL (17th)
Passing - Denver (19th) StL (13th)
Rushing - Denver (1st) StL (25th)
Sacks - Denver (10th) StL (22nd)
Ints - Denver (7th) StL (28th)
QB Rating - Manning (112.0) Davis (85.1)
Top Receivers (Yards/Game)
DT - 111.3 Sanders - 94.7
Quick - 53.6 Cook - 47.4
Rushing - both teams are ordinary at best, and best rushers stats are 54.0 yds / gm (Hillman, who will not play and Mason)
Analysis
Again, similar stats as The Oakland match. Clearly, other than home field, we should dominate. But there's more fight in this team than Oakland. Beating San Fran and Seattle is pretty cool, even if those teams are not at their best so far. But I used to think the St. Louis D was going to be really tough this season only to see them scraping by. Yes, injuries happen, but their overall performance has been suspect. I suppose when Long returns they will get back to playing better ball. And on O, they seem to sputter.
This is a 2 TD plus game, but one never knows when the "good" St. Lou will show up. Special teams did help beat Seattle.
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I am going to really enjoy watching this offense play in a dome!!! I can't imagine how excited peyton is to not have to worry about any elements ... I see a game on our side much like last year's dome game in Dallas. Wait and see how fast this team can truly play!!
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It looks like Shaun Hill will be starting for the Rams ... not sure that matters much, neither QB is a serious problem to defend. Actually Davis would probably be easier to defend since he has played lately - recent video - and Hill has not... hard to say?
ST could even things up a bit and I think the Rams are capable of playing better defense than the Raiders. The Broncos should be able to score plenty to win the game = Broncos ~30 St. Louis ~14. It would be nice to finally get a shut out but I'm not predicting that.
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Yes......Peyton and dome = Points (lots of them!)
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I agree with you Can and always enjoy reading your positive posts we should win this game pretty easily I am thinking like 35-17 go Broncos
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I think all of the games are tough from here on in but the Broncos seem to realize that. I would love to see both the offense and defense play aggressive solid mistake free football with a final score somewhere around 35 to 10 for the Broncos. We need to put together a string of good games.
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This could be a much tougher game than anyone expects. Fisher has changed QB's to a veteran and I'm sure the message is, don't turn the ball over. He realizes their best shot is to not give us too many chances.
This could be a rough week for our run game. St. Louis is the 3rd ranked rushing D and have the number 1 stuffed rank.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
The good news is their D line isn't much of a threat in pass rush. Given that Peyton is well above average in staying away from sacks I think we have a huge advantage.
(PT's comment: My guess is this poster has never watched a Rams' game. What a dumb thing to post)
My guess - The Broncos will test them with the run and if their Dline is as expected the Broncos will turn to screens, swings, and draws to get the RB's involved.
Of course our best games have come against teams that are in the lower half in pass d ranking in the link above, maybe this will be a walk in the park.
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The St. Louis Rams have sixteen sacks in the last four games.
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True but let's put those 16 in context. 14 came in the last two games which is incredible until you realize 8 came against Kaepernick who gets sacked by everyone due to his style of play. (Curious why you would say 4 games when it's basically two games that pad your stat, and they didn't get a single sack in the Seattle game....odd to even lump that in your 4 game count)
6 this last week against the Cards. One probably due to Palmer losing his ACL.
So, are the Rams the team from the first 7 games or from the last two...one of those being Kaep and the gifts he gives.
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Aggressive tends to mean "high risk" in an effort to generate big plays; which also means less-than-solid. It virtually guarantees mistakes as well, either in the form of penalties and turnovers.
I really wish people would get off of that word.
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38-17. And it won't really be that close. It can get dicey if St.Louis starts pulling out the trick plays like they did against Seattle. Hopefully Denver is preparing for the okey doke.
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One thing the Rams have in their favor is their special teams play. That's how the beat Seattle with that brilliant punt and the fake punt at the end. I don't expect them to do the same thing but they might want to throw in something creative in there.
Jeff Fisher said he wants to win this game badly. He might be drawing up something crazy to do just that.
Gotta say, that punt was one of the best plays I've seen in a long time. Boom, total fake out!
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The St. Louis defensive line are a physical bunch. Denver's offensive line will need to be on their A game. You know how to counter a good pass rush though, don't ya Sam.
Give that ball to CJ!
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Some of us don't want to see the first several drives wasted by playing it close to the vest. Both on offense and defense. Open that can up early and don't stop until it's time for Brock in the 4th.
This is a good team, and if we let them hang around, Fisher's tricks can make things interesting. We need to be guns blazing AGGRESSIVE from the coin toss.
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This is a well coached team and they will be ready to play ball. We need to come out firing in all 3 phases of the game. We don't want to let them hang around!
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Exactly, Fisher wants this win badly. He's gonna do and try anything to make it so. Firing out of the gate is the way to go.
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Robert Quinn is a dangerous pass rusher who has come on strong as of late. Clady can handle him but I expect Vasquez to struggle against him
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we see what happened when seattle slept on them...any given sunday
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28 - 17 Denver
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We will win the game, but we have to be heads up in all areas as they will do anything possible to win. This game will be an all out effort on their part and they know they can do it because they did against Seattle. We will have to come in and push from beginning to end and be aware at all times. 28-17 because it is in St Louis.
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I have to be honest, I was wondering what was up when I posted the stats. Even though they are still below average in sacks, I remember them earlier this season being in dead last. That was surprising to me, given how well they could pass rush last season. I do realize that Chris Long has missed some games, but he was there when they had the bad start.
Clearly players like Quinn are showing up again.
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this games worries me as others have said their front 4 has played a lot better lately esp. getting sacks & w/ the o-line being shuffled around it'll be a tough task...must be ready for every trick play in the book by them to get extra possessions Fisher is a gambler n his team will be ready lets hope we are to...