Watched the "forward progress play" again on goal line

[fearsomefour]

They called illegal man down field during a Rams punt that the Baltimore player fumbled. When they showed the replay and explained the penalty, it was clear he left way too early. So he was definitely guilty, but not sure if that penalty is ever called.
Apparently, he wasnt allowed to head up field until the ball had been kicked.
To make matters worse, on the re-kick Baltimore almost took it to the house and had a 30-40 yard return

That is rarely called but routinely violated.
The lineman have to be within a yard of the LOS when the ball is kicked....just like OL on a screen pass. But, guys leave early constantly.
It was the right call, but, rarely called flag when there is a fumble is maddening.

 

[RamBall]

That is rarely called but routinely violated.
The lineman have to be within a yard of the LOS when the ball is kicked....just like OL on a screen pass. But, guys leave early constantly.
It was the right call, but, rarely called flag when there is a fumble is maddening.

The only reason they flagged it was because of the fumble. And how ironic that Dolac would make the mistake that cost Reeder a tackle and a forced fumble. But Reeder returned the favor by not tackling Flowers, allowing Flowers to get in the path of LANDMAN for the forced fumble.

 

[FrantikRam]

Once its dead its dead....
I went to a college game once, similar sort of play on a QB sneak. Ball clearly popped out, in this case like bouncing on the ground, a couple of refs didn't see it. A defender picked the ball up and started returning the ball. From their 25 or so yard like to about midfield.
So, on the side of the field where the defender picked up the fumble and was returning it the refs was running down field watching the play.
On the other side, the ref was still focused on the QB sneak, not seeing the fumble. He blew the play dead as the action at the line had stopped.
The awarded the ball to the defensive but spotted the ball about where he was in his return when the whistle blew. The 48 yard line or so. It was a sure TD.
So it goes I guess....

On the flip side, there was that 2014 game where we beat the Niners when Kaepernick tried a sneak to win the game....ball squirted out, we recovered and beat them because of it. No way to tell if he was down, scored or fumbled first - so the play stood

 

[den-the-coach]

That was Dolac and his blocking took him about 5 yards then he just took off. He was about 10 yards down field when the ball was kicked.
Our ST are really fucking things up. First couple of games looked good, then the Eagles and everything seems to be getting worse. There is a penalty on every return almost. I hope they don't cost us the London game. Then maybe they can hyper focus in the bye week and fix it.

Really wish the Rams would make a change during the bye replacing Chase Blackburn. Rams special teams really improved last year when they brought in Craig Aukerman after Scott Frost left for his collegiate gig.

Aukerman was responsible for Whittington returning kickoff and help improve the unit overall. Unfortunately he was hired by the Dolphins.

 

[RamFan503]

I was screaming at the refs when they blew that dead while the guy was still moving and AFTER the ball came out. Such bullshit.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Didn't the same thing happen in the whiners game? Quick whistle cost the Rams their first lead of the game by blowing the ball dead, even though they are supposedly told to let plays go on because they can be fixed by replay? The kickoff fumble that the Rams returned for a TD.

Yup the refs have gone out of their way to fuck us way more recently. Fuck them

 

[bwdenverram]

I don't actually argue forward progress was stopped. The issue is you blow the whistle after its stripped and he's already running. That's lame. Either blow it dead when you say progress is stopped or let it play out.

 

[Cjcinec]

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I'm confused. Can a play called dead be challenged by a team? That's the 2nd time the Rams have been screwed by this in the last 3 games.

That can be the only reason Mcvay isn't throwing the red flag.

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Rams could not challenge because all challenges in the last two minutes of the half or game had to come from the booth. I believe Rams were out of timeouts as well

 

[Steve808]

Rams could not challenge because all challenges in the last two minutes of the half or game had to come from the booth. I believe Rams were out of timeouts as well

I don't believe you can challenge a play that was whistled dead or where they say forward progress was stopped.

But that's why in the rugby scrums, they supposedly (the refs) are supposed to let stuff play out because turnovers are automatically replayed and mistakes can be overturned.

 

[Tumak61]

All this and we won by two Td's. Ravens had more penalty yards. No the refs didn't try and screw us.

 

[Ramsker]

I maintain that all plays where the line is tight (i.e - sneaks, tush push) should be reviewable for line to gain, forward progress, PENALTY, fumble etc.... They could institute it at the start by allowing a coaches challenge then under 2min make it a booth review, then go to mandatory in the future. I hate slowing down the game but it's ridiculous how much is missed on these plays.

 

[gogoat1]

When it happened I wanted Verse to keep running. If the player runs that fumble all the way down to score, then it is easier to admit your initial take was wrong and change it in the event NY weighs in or McVay throws his flag or whatever. Also it gives the refs time to look at each other with that confused look they often have and figure out if they fucked up.

Whereas if he stops and spikes it in frustration like Verse did, you can't really admit fault because where would you place the ball. That would make them look stupid.

So generally speaking if you scoop what you think is a live ball run that thing the other way. It's kind of like firing off if you're on the OL and the defender crosses into the neutral zone.

Jerry Rice ran everything back to the end zone, penalty or not. Whatever happened he was going to the end zone.
I think its a good way to do things.

 

[Steve808]

I maintain that all plays where the line is tight (i.e - sneaks, tush push) should be reviewable for line to gain, forward progress, PENALTY, fumble etc.... They could institute it at the start by allowing a coaches challenge then under 2min make it a booth review, then go to mandatory in the future. I hate slowing down the game but it's ridiculous how much is missed on these plays.

Being that the booth review can find everything, why can't they call false start against the iggles when they commit that penalty at least 1/3 of the time but I have NEVER EVER seen in called.